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The past hour has included two IPs making edits to replace uses of Mexican/Mexican-American with Latina/Latinx-American. Today's Google doodle is driving a number of searches and page hits, consider some degree of temporary protection for this article. 138.87.155.153 ( talk) 17:11, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
I requested page protection. Please allow admins time to respond. NedFausa ( talk) 18:38, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Mood BuenosAires @Moodbadeli Replying to @MelissaGomez004
Sounds like a great story! According to Spanish grammar, the last name shouldn't have a diacritic mark ("Idar" is good).
Aug 11, 2020 [1]
None of the sources that I clicked discussed this issue. Why is her family name spelled with the accent on the a? According to standard Spanish orthography that's totally unnecessary, as Idar would be pronounced with stress on the second syllable anyway. Also, not all of the sources spell it that way, but maybe that's because they're in English. Anyone have some information on this? Ntsimp ( talk) 23:24, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
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It seems like the stable version did not include ethnicity in the lead per WP:MOSBIO. Should this be changed? I reverted to the last stable version and have started a discussion here. -- Malerooster ( talk) 00:14, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability.If ever there was a case where ethnicity is relevant to the subject's notability, it is Jovita Idár. She was born into a family of proud Mexican-American activists, and carried on their legacy. She was not ashamed of her ethnicity, which was integral to her public identity. It is absurd to remove this essential fact from the lead. NedFausa ( talk) 00:20, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
This indispensable content should not be removed without consensus. NedFausa ( talk) 00:33, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
"Meaningful and effective change" is a vague cliche, it's meaningless and feckless. 2601:701:C000:CCC0:3993:6D9C:A5DC:E0B7 ( talk) 18:52, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
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The past hour has included two IPs making edits to replace uses of Mexican/Mexican-American with Latina/Latinx-American. Today's Google doodle is driving a number of searches and page hits, consider some degree of temporary protection for this article. 138.87.155.153 ( talk) 17:11, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
I requested page protection. Please allow admins time to respond. NedFausa ( talk) 18:38, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Mood BuenosAires @Moodbadeli Replying to @MelissaGomez004
Sounds like a great story! According to Spanish grammar, the last name shouldn't have a diacritic mark ("Idar" is good).
Aug 11, 2020 [1]
None of the sources that I clicked discussed this issue. Why is her family name spelled with the accent on the a? According to standard Spanish orthography that's totally unnecessary, as Idar would be pronounced with stress on the second syllable anyway. Also, not all of the sources spell it that way, but maybe that's because they're in English. Anyone have some information on this? Ntsimp ( talk) 23:24, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
References
It seems like the stable version did not include ethnicity in the lead per WP:MOSBIO. Should this be changed? I reverted to the last stable version and have started a discussion here. -- Malerooster ( talk) 00:14, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Ethnicity, religion, or sexuality should generally not be in the lead unless it is relevant to the subject's notability.If ever there was a case where ethnicity is relevant to the subject's notability, it is Jovita Idár. She was born into a family of proud Mexican-American activists, and carried on their legacy. She was not ashamed of her ethnicity, which was integral to her public identity. It is absurd to remove this essential fact from the lead. NedFausa ( talk) 00:20, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
This indispensable content should not be removed without consensus. NedFausa ( talk) 00:33, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
"Meaningful and effective change" is a vague cliche, it's meaningless and feckless. 2601:701:C000:CCC0:3993:6D9C:A5DC:E0B7 ( talk) 18:52, 19 January 2024 (UTC)