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Today is the 1st of April聽:-) 鈥擯receding unsigned comment added by 89.77.163.160 ( talk) 20:42, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
This article needs to be accurately stated as a JOKE (hoax). On April 1st, 1976, Jupiter and Pluto where on opposite sides of the sun. [1] Pluto was 25.1 degrees from conjunction with the rajat Sun (as seen by an observer on Jupiter). From Jupiter, Pluto's closest point to conjunction with the Sun would have been 13.37 degrees on 1975-Jun-12 (remember Pluto's orbit is inclined 17 degrees). Pluto's gravity has no measurable effect on the Earth. -- Kheider ( talk) 14:37, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Jupiter is always closer to the Earth than Pluto and Jupiter is 146,000 times more massive than Pluto. -- Kheider ( talk) 15:12, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Flagging the last part as needing references is silly. Would you demand a reference for the statement "An apple when detached from the branch of a tree will fall to the ground due to the gravitational attraction of the earth"? These are statements of fact that can be validated by a reader without any references. Rtcutler ( talk) 17:09, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
How does one cite mathematics? I suppose it is worth double checking those calculations (for example, checking the mass of a car and the gravitational influence at half a meter away), but other that that, the link to the article on Newton's Law of Gravitation is more or less all you need. Unless someone wants to run through the mathematics, check that it is accurate, publish it on a website, and link it as a source. Actually... I think I might do just that. Give me a few weeks and I'll build a website. - Brian
Is this article about the Astronomical Hoax or Sir Patrick Moore? There seems to be an abundance of information about Moore that is irrelevant to the article. - 159.247.2.7 ( talk) 15:05, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
And state clearly its a hoax, its very hard to determine from the article. 鈥擯receding unsigned comment added by 86.83.121.172 ( talk) 17:09, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
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This sections appears to be WP:OR, and essentially provides a completely misleading interpretation. The only force that would be felt by any object on the Earth's surface due to Jupiter's gravity is a tidal force, which is considerably smaller than the gravitational pull. The gravitational pull would only have been of relevance if it affected the object but not the Earth, which of course is untrue. Though a section explaining the real effects makes sense in this article, a scientifically invalid explanation is perhaps worse than none. 鈥 Quondum 00:12, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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Today is the 1st of April聽:-) 鈥擯receding unsigned comment added by 89.77.163.160 ( talk) 20:42, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
This article needs to be accurately stated as a JOKE (hoax). On April 1st, 1976, Jupiter and Pluto where on opposite sides of the sun. [1] Pluto was 25.1 degrees from conjunction with the rajat Sun (as seen by an observer on Jupiter). From Jupiter, Pluto's closest point to conjunction with the Sun would have been 13.37 degrees on 1975-Jun-12 (remember Pluto's orbit is inclined 17 degrees). Pluto's gravity has no measurable effect on the Earth. -- Kheider ( talk) 14:37, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Jupiter is always closer to the Earth than Pluto and Jupiter is 146,000 times more massive than Pluto. -- Kheider ( talk) 15:12, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Flagging the last part as needing references is silly. Would you demand a reference for the statement "An apple when detached from the branch of a tree will fall to the ground due to the gravitational attraction of the earth"? These are statements of fact that can be validated by a reader without any references. Rtcutler ( talk) 17:09, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
How does one cite mathematics? I suppose it is worth double checking those calculations (for example, checking the mass of a car and the gravitational influence at half a meter away), but other that that, the link to the article on Newton's Law of Gravitation is more or less all you need. Unless someone wants to run through the mathematics, check that it is accurate, publish it on a website, and link it as a source. Actually... I think I might do just that. Give me a few weeks and I'll build a website. - Brian
Is this article about the Astronomical Hoax or Sir Patrick Moore? There seems to be an abundance of information about Moore that is irrelevant to the article. - 159.247.2.7 ( talk) 15:05, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
And state clearly its a hoax, its very hard to determine from the article. 鈥擯receding unsigned comment added by 86.83.121.172 ( talk) 17:09, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
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This sections appears to be WP:OR, and essentially provides a completely misleading interpretation. The only force that would be felt by any object on the Earth's surface due to Jupiter's gravity is a tidal force, which is considerably smaller than the gravitational pull. The gravitational pull would only have been of relevance if it affected the object but not the Earth, which of course is untrue. Though a section explaining the real effects makes sense in this article, a scientifically invalid explanation is perhaps worse than none. 鈥 Quondum 00:12, 19 July 2020 (UTC)