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Yes, especially it needs the philosophy — if Dietzgen influenced Lenin, he presumably influenced world history, but what did he contribute? And if it's significant that Lenin ignored Dietzgen's last book while extensively quoting others, what's in it that might have contradicted, or altered, Lenin's ideas?
If rewritten, this article could be an important contribution. I recall coming across a mention of Dietzgen in a footnote decades ago, but all it said was, in effect, "Isn't it marvelous that an ignorant proletarian could have concocted a primitive version of these ideas all his own." I remember thinking at the time I'd like to see that version, and I came to this page hoping to finally learn more about his thoughts.
There are also style problems to fix, such as the redundant "early on in his youth".
Chelydra (
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Agree with the above. Also the part about 'family line' seems a bit superfluous and/or sounds almost like we are dealing with some kind of eugenics. This is about Joseph Dietzgen.
Ninjabeard (
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Independent development of dialectical materialism
Dietzgen was never independent from Marx et al in his intellectual forays
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Yes, especially it needs the philosophy — if Dietzgen influenced Lenin, he presumably influenced world history, but what did he contribute? And if it's significant that Lenin ignored Dietzgen's last book while extensively quoting others, what's in it that might have contradicted, or altered, Lenin's ideas?
If rewritten, this article could be an important contribution. I recall coming across a mention of Dietzgen in a footnote decades ago, but all it said was, in effect, "Isn't it marvelous that an ignorant proletarian could have concocted a primitive version of these ideas all his own." I remember thinking at the time I'd like to see that version, and I came to this page hoping to finally learn more about his thoughts.
There are also style problems to fix, such as the redundant "early on in his youth".
Chelydra (
talk) 09:32, 2 October 2008 (UTC)reply
Agree with the above. Also the part about 'family line' seems a bit superfluous and/or sounds almost like we are dealing with some kind of eugenics. This is about Joseph Dietzgen.
Ninjabeard (
talk) 09:16, 18 August 2014 (UTC)reply
Independent development of dialectical materialism
Dietzgen was never independent from Marx et al in his intellectual forays
A. Rosenberg (
talk) 19:55, 6 October 2022 (UTC)reply