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{{ Infobox FBI Ten Most Wanted}} has been nominated for deletion. As this template is transcluded here, contributors to the "Jon Schillaci" article may want comment in the discussion here. I propose that if the template is deleted, then most transclusions would be changed to {{ Infobox Criminal}}. -- Mark Chovain 01:29, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
This article needs a massive rewrite, due to new information on Schillaci's post-release activities. See the ED article on Dylan thomas. Didaskalosmrm ( talk) 19:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
If anyone has a compelling reason why Schillaci should not be classified as an LGBT person from the United States, please make the argument here. Everything I know about the man, from his crimes involving boys to his involvement with BoyChat.org, indicates "sexual behavior with or attraction to people of the same sex," which is the Wikipedia definition of homosexuality. If you do not think that 'boylovers' should be classified as homosexuals, despite clearly falling into the above criteria, please consider amending the Wikipedia article on homosexuality before you remove the tag 'LGBT people from the United States' from Schillaci's page.
-- ZhorblisMaycom ( talk) 16:51, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
"Most people consider gay and homosexual to be synonyms. This is how, in fact, the Oxford English Dictionary defines it. However, some consider gay to be a matter of self-identification, while homosexual refers to sexual orientation."
As you may or may not know, gay, and LGBT does not simply refer to sex with the same gender - it refers to being members of a self-identified social construct.
(outdent) It does sound to me like his self-identification as a "boylover" says that he is gay or bisexual in addition to being a pedophile. Aleta Sing 18:35, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Allright folks, I have searched and found couple of sources to solve this mystery. In this and this post Schillaci wrote about his relationship with another boy when he was a teenager, and he even mentions himself being gay.
However, in this post Schillaci wrote about boychat community and himself. Quote by Schillaci: "Let me run from the words. I'm not a boylover. I'm merely gay, and coincedentally appreciate the beauty of youth. I'm not even gay. I just care for children."
I suggest you read these sources, as I think they're reliable enough to draw some kind of conclusions. Opinions? Reverend X ( talk) 19:46, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
There is no evidence that this organisation played a role in Schillaci's detection or arrest as claimed, and the source cited is a broken link. Wikisposure's credibility has been depricated since its demise, to say the least. Willemslie ( talk) 15:01, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Since no one has come back to me on my previous comments, I intend removing the Wikisposure references within the next few days.
"Perverted Justice" was a front for far-right extremists posing as child-abuse vigilantes. Its DNS server was "aryanunity.com", the same as the "redwatch" site, which sought to accuse political activists of paedophilia and the like purely on the basis of their differing beliefs. (I was one of their victims.)
While admitting that I'm not exactly neutral on this issue, I don't feel PJ's claim has any place in an encyclopaedic bio of a notable sex offender. Willemslie ( talk) 13:09, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
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{{ Infobox FBI Ten Most Wanted}} has been nominated for deletion. As this template is transcluded here, contributors to the "Jon Schillaci" article may want comment in the discussion here. I propose that if the template is deleted, then most transclusions would be changed to {{ Infobox Criminal}}. -- Mark Chovain 01:29, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
This article needs a massive rewrite, due to new information on Schillaci's post-release activities. See the ED article on Dylan thomas. Didaskalosmrm ( talk) 19:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
If anyone has a compelling reason why Schillaci should not be classified as an LGBT person from the United States, please make the argument here. Everything I know about the man, from his crimes involving boys to his involvement with BoyChat.org, indicates "sexual behavior with or attraction to people of the same sex," which is the Wikipedia definition of homosexuality. If you do not think that 'boylovers' should be classified as homosexuals, despite clearly falling into the above criteria, please consider amending the Wikipedia article on homosexuality before you remove the tag 'LGBT people from the United States' from Schillaci's page.
-- ZhorblisMaycom ( talk) 16:51, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
"Most people consider gay and homosexual to be synonyms. This is how, in fact, the Oxford English Dictionary defines it. However, some consider gay to be a matter of self-identification, while homosexual refers to sexual orientation."
As you may or may not know, gay, and LGBT does not simply refer to sex with the same gender - it refers to being members of a self-identified social construct.
(outdent) It does sound to me like his self-identification as a "boylover" says that he is gay or bisexual in addition to being a pedophile. Aleta Sing 18:35, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Allright folks, I have searched and found couple of sources to solve this mystery. In this and this post Schillaci wrote about his relationship with another boy when he was a teenager, and he even mentions himself being gay.
However, in this post Schillaci wrote about boychat community and himself. Quote by Schillaci: "Let me run from the words. I'm not a boylover. I'm merely gay, and coincedentally appreciate the beauty of youth. I'm not even gay. I just care for children."
I suggest you read these sources, as I think they're reliable enough to draw some kind of conclusions. Opinions? Reverend X ( talk) 19:46, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
There is no evidence that this organisation played a role in Schillaci's detection or arrest as claimed, and the source cited is a broken link. Wikisposure's credibility has been depricated since its demise, to say the least. Willemslie ( talk) 15:01, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Since no one has come back to me on my previous comments, I intend removing the Wikisposure references within the next few days.
"Perverted Justice" was a front for far-right extremists posing as child-abuse vigilantes. Its DNS server was "aryanunity.com", the same as the "redwatch" site, which sought to accuse political activists of paedophilia and the like purely on the basis of their differing beliefs. (I was one of their victims.)
While admitting that I'm not exactly neutral on this issue, I don't feel PJ's claim has any place in an encyclopaedic bio of a notable sex offender. Willemslie ( talk) 13:09, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
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