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Should be better discussion including the full forecast (unemployment spike, peak and decline)
There’s little doubt that Jon Fisher, the entrepreneur turned business professor, has made some good calls. In May 2008, with unemployment at 5.4 percent, Fisher predicted that the U.S. unemployment rate would soar to 9 percent within 12 months. In April 2009, the U.S. unemployment rate hit 8.9 percent. Last August, one month after Warren Buffett said that national unemployment could rise to 11 percent, Jon Fisher said no way -- the figure would peak at 10.4 percent and drop sharply thereafter, if it even got that high. As shown in the table below, the rate hit 10.1 percent in October and dropped to 9.7 percent in January. http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=654&doc_id=187747 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.179.231 ( talk) 04:37, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
This page is being vandalized by 76.126.186.253 ( talk · contribs) (Oct, 2010) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.182.213 ( talk) 08:01, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
I took a closer look and restored the advert tag as well. It was removed with only minor changes to the article.
I think we have enough to show he's notable per WP:BIO. Full citation information will help immensely making this clear, and in getting this article cleaned up.
I don't find the notability very clear. Anyone want to summarize here to help the cleanup? -- Ronz ( talk) 19:52, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
re Ronz: "notable aspects of his life" -Fisher unemployment cycle forecast already complete (2008-2009 bottom, 2009-2010 top). Fisher book required reading for MBAs including Berkeley (New Venture Finance EWMBA 295T). —Preceding unsigned comment added by PredilCO ( talk • contribs) 18:05, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Diannaa. The introduction to the applicable 40 under 40 award is here http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/stories/2006/10/09/focus1.html (note the last portion of the URL is “focus1” and note “focus 2” through “focus41” describes the 40 award recipients including “focus 16” that is Fisher. I did not find a page listing all the recipients but this should be sufficient. Your edits to this page are thoughtful and comprehensive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PredilCO ( talk • contribs) 21:34, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
The notability of Fisher’s last company to Oracle’s security strategy is included in this book http://www.amazon.com/Designing-Framework-Identity-Management-Osborne/dp/0071741372 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.230.109.89 ( talk) 09:50, 20 November 2010 (UTC) Lists these speaking engagements: Some speaking engagements 2011 Jan UC Berkeley 2010 Nov TechColumbus Ohio (Trip rescheduled) 2010 Nov TechAngels Ohio (Trip rescheduled) 2010 Nov Columbia University (Trip rescheduled) 2010 Mar RSA Annual Conference 2010 Mar NIRI Silicon Valley annual conference 2010 Jan UC Berkeley 2010 April Licensing Executives Society 10th annual 2009 Sep Global Security Challenge 2009 May Hewlett Packard 2009 May Business Leadership Council/Kepler's Menlo Park 2009 Mar San Jose State University 2009 July Yale University 2009 Feb UC Berkeley 2009 Dec University of SF 2009 Dec Churchill Club 2009 Aug Commonwealth Club of California 2008 Sep Yale University 2008 Sep Vassar College 2008 Sep University of SF 2008 Sep Columbia University 2008 Sep Brown University 2008 Sep Book Passage 2008 Oct NIRI Silicon Valley 2008 Oct EO North Carolina 2008 Nov Carnegie Mellon 2008 Dec EO Tennessee —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.182.213 ( talk) 07:30, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
"Unemployment 8.9%: Jon Fisher's Long Range Forecast Stands the Test of Time The entrepreneur's numbers prove to be very accurate, connect housing to joblessness" http://fora.tv/topic/economy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.182.213 ( talk) 17:23, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Mr. Fisher is co-inventor of 4 issued patents 7,908,645, 7,822,990, 7,616,764, 7,596,701 from Bharosa, suggest "Issued Patents" between "Honors" and "Bibliography" or perhaps brief inclusion in body. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.182.213 ( talk) 17:58, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Suggestion add Philanthropy section: Mr. Fisher served as a Nueva School trustee https://nuevaschool.org/base.php?q__=FctGstuOXD4rB8hWu%2F4cZgWyHhJhtKHkDxOb9zJngpC1W2Z6xXJO0xnZOYaen%2FOl and Alumni Chair of its $26M capital campaign https://nuevaschool.org/base.php?q__=g1Wk97emEThej6Tn8cycqX6dasRy2UqOnPM0uvbStKsF4BqMu3wNuBXPC5%2BTMvHw including the building of the Hillside Learning Complex, renovating the historic Crocker Mansion, and strengthening Nueva’s Endowment https://nuevaschool.org/base.php?q__=VToGMWxBy6EH1ZKlNyNlIqfA2v5WPb%2Bn3%2BKieyWGmig%3D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.182.213 ( talk) 05:49, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Suggested section: “Angel Investments” including Emphasis Search http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/21/emphasis-search-raises-1m-to-help-you-find-the-right-doctor/ Linksify http://techcrunch.com/2009/08/27/linksify-gets-a-500000-injection-aims-to-improve-contact-management/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.182.213 ( talk) 20:55, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Suggest add this image File:Jonfishermarquette.jpg of Mr. Fisher speaking at Marquette University in April 2008 initiating unemployment forecast. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.182.213 ( talk) 03:46, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Suggestion is to add in lead article that Mr. Fisher is also known for advocating start-up entrepreneurs design their companies for acquisition as that is the thesis of his book as well as the topic for many keynote speeches. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.182.213 ( talk) 18:53, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Fisher correctly forecasted the timing of the U.S. debt crisis outlined in this article in March, 2010 http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=466&doc_id=189367 that should be included in the body of this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.182.213 ( talk) 04:51, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
Tuesday March 16, 2010 2:57:02 PM
When in 2011, Jon? A this time it's political ---we need to elect who China and Japan want and if we don't that could be the start...Q4, 2011 fisherjonbThinkernetter
Jim Kovach former 49er announced as COO of CrowdOptic http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2011/12/09/ex-49er-named-crowdoptic-coo.html
Fisher's new company CrowdOptic is credited with inventing a new mobile category (should go in 1st paragraph) Focused-Based Services (FBS): The Next Generation of LBS? http://www.frost.com/c/10392/blog/blog-display.do?bdata=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5mcm9zdC5jb20vYy8xMDM5Mi9ibG9nL2luZGV4LmRvP3BhZ2VTaXplPTdAfkBCbG9nQH5AMTMyNTMxNTExNzg1NA%3D%3D&id=1239674 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.178.17 ( talk) 07:06, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2012/04/06/the-founders-crowdoptic-brings-context-to-social-with-augmented-reality-app/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.179.231 ( talk) 05:06, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2011/12/09/ex-49er-named-crowdoptic-coo.html however the reference is to Fisher's company making the Focus-Based Services claim so perhaps this reference as well as the blog because it is the lead mobile analyst for a significant analyst firm - Frost & Sullivan http://www.frost.com/prod/servlet/people-analysts-profile.pag?mode=open&sid=4058952 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.178.17 ( talk) 07:18, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps this can be first source with others to be added. Wiki should be timely as well as well documented and this is now three confirmed sources that Fisher's company is first Focus-Based Service, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.178.17 ( talk) 03:56, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
http://www.research-live.com/news/technology/what-are-you-looking-at?-crowdoptic-wants-to-know/4006651.article Is this enough source material to support Fisher emerging as co-inventor of Focus-Based Services? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.178.17 ( talk) 04:34, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Sources supporting Fisher as co-inventor of Focus-Based Service (founding CEO CrowdOptic)
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/Infineon-Raceway-Selects-CrowdOptic-as-Mobile-Partner-for-Live-EventsSonoma-Valley-Race-Venue-Selects-CrowdOptic-for-06437116 "Infineon Raceway is an early adopter of mobile technologies that can be used to create an immersive fan experience, whether it's NASCAR, NHRA drag racing, INDYCAR or another of the many forms of racing we feature," said Infineon Raceway vice president of marketing John Cardinale. "CrowdOptic is first-of-its-kind technology which tracks crowd focus by collecting real-time data on where individuals are pointing their mobile phones."
http://m.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2012/01/augmented-reality-crowdoptic-crowding-an-optic/ CrowdOptic: given their bizarre photogrammetric technology, they’ve never been one of those “me too” outfits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.178.17 ( talk) 17:09, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
http://www.efytimes.com/e1/fullnews.asp?edid=76293 "As a global leader in sports and entertainment management, we are always looking for ways to Enhance In-Venue Experience for our fans and create value for all stakeholders. CrowdOptic's mobile technology can be used to create an immersive fan experience," said IMG Reliance's COO Ashu Jindal. "CrowdOptic is first-of-its-kind technology which tracks the crowd's focus by collecting real time data about where individuals are pointing their mobile phone."
http://www.frost.com/c/10392/blog/blog-display.do?bdata=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5mcm9zdC5jb20vYy8xMDM5Mi9ibG9nL2luZGV4LmRvQH5AQmxvZ0B%2BQDEzMjUzMzk3NTkzMTM%3D&id=1239674 Focused-Based Services (FBS) are an emerging mobile category that will play a significant role in the next generation of location-based services (LBS). FBS are delivered based on what the user is looking at in real-time versus simply where the user is (location). In contrast to augmented reality, which combines location and mobile Internet search to provide information on landmarks in static environments, FBS enables the tracking and tagging of objects (or individuals) in moving or dynamic environments.
AutoReach/AutoNation reference in Merc http://www.mercurynews.com/chris-obrien/ci_20943675/obrien-jon-fisher-says-selling-and-not-ipo There is request for this in business career section — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.179.231 ( talk) 02:40, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
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@ Hawaii 808 1986: Hello.
This is the source you added to support "investor" in the first sentence:
This source doesn't call him an "investor". It calls him a "serial entrepreneur".
Further, the lead isn't intended to be a laundry list of all possible titles, it is intended to be a brief overview of how sources reliably and consistently define the topic. I dispute that sources consistently define him as a public speaker, as there is only one example of such cited in the article. Further, his viral speech was related to his role as an adjunct professor, not as a stand-alone position.
Since your accounts has only ever made edits around this topic, I recommend reviewing Wikipedia:Conflict of interest if this applies to you.
Please also note that, per
Help:Minor edit, A minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute.
The addition of
vaguely promotional language to the lead is not minor as the term is used on Wikipedia.
Thank you. Grayfell ( talk) 02:44, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
Page has 202 editors in 16 years never with “advertisement” flag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.170.2.85 ( talk) 02:26, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Definitely not 202 editors. Please avoid making things up and please sign your comments. 173.218.38.212 ( talk) 23:03, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Julie Bort is a conservative and well known journo; on this particular page she is quoted as follows:
In 2016 Julie Bort wrote for Business Insider that CrowdOptic's technology was "so cool, we've never seen anything like it."
I left it, since it provides context to the prior paragraph. But if you see it as even remotely promotional of herself or of the subject, let me know and I’ll cut it. 173.218.38.212 ( talk) 23:03, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
source says:
Jon’s former company Bharosa was awarded a key contextual authentication patent—number 7908645. It ultimately received five issued patents with 12 patents pending. His current company CrowdOptic has just been awarded a US patent allowance for its new and innovative solution. Fisher explains: “We recently received a patent allowance on the technology behind triangulating 2 or more electronic devices focused in the same direction at the same time. For instance, consider two phones at a common event triangulated to come up with a location of where the phones are looking.”
Washington Times
Compare that to the article:
Fisher was a co-patentee in a contextual authentication patent awarded to Bharosa, which later received five issued patents and has twelve patents pending.
Note that he also says: “I like to be referred to as an inventor” says the 20-year serial entrepreneur. “I build businesses from ground zero. Society calls that entrepreneurship; I call it invention.”
Polygnotus (
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23:29, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
I think we should get rid of the "Prediction of 2010 US unemployment peak" section. It is ultimately patting him on the back for doing something unremarkable. The sources are his predictions, not other people (significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject) who wrote about them so they don't appear to be notable. Even for Nostradamus we don't have sections in his article for each individual prediction. And in the articles about Jon and other CEOs we don't have sections about each prediction they got wrong. Polygnotus ( talk) 23:34, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Smart glasses will replace Smart phonesin 2016 [1]. Embarrassing. Polygnotus ( talk) 07:11, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Jon Fisher (born January 19, 1972) is a Silicon Valley entrepreneur.
So we got 3 facts: a birth date, a location and a job description.
This claim has 4 refs (see WP:CITEKILL), despite the fact that it is very unlikely to be disputed.
The first source, marinmagazine, doesn't mention a date of birth nor Silicon Valley.
The second source, a WSJ blog, says "a serial entrepreneur, has been the CEO of three companies in the Valley".
The third source, mercurynews, calls him a "serial entrepreneur" but does not specify his location or date of birth.
The fourth source, bizjournals, calls him an entrepreneur and says "the CEO of CrowdOptic, the San Francisco-based startup".
So the one thing that should actually be sourced, his date of birth, is unsourced. And the four sources used only support the parts of the sentence that will not be disputed (we know he is an entrepreneur). It is unclear if he actually lives in Silicon Valley and what his date of birth is based on those sources. I think this article needs a rewrite. Polygnotus ( talk) 07:14, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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Should be better discussion including the full forecast (unemployment spike, peak and decline)
There’s little doubt that Jon Fisher, the entrepreneur turned business professor, has made some good calls. In May 2008, with unemployment at 5.4 percent, Fisher predicted that the U.S. unemployment rate would soar to 9 percent within 12 months. In April 2009, the U.S. unemployment rate hit 8.9 percent. Last August, one month after Warren Buffett said that national unemployment could rise to 11 percent, Jon Fisher said no way -- the figure would peak at 10.4 percent and drop sharply thereafter, if it even got that high. As shown in the table below, the rate hit 10.1 percent in October and dropped to 9.7 percent in January. http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=654&doc_id=187747 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.179.231 ( talk) 04:37, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
This page is being vandalized by 76.126.186.253 ( talk · contribs) (Oct, 2010) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.182.213 ( talk) 08:01, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
I took a closer look and restored the advert tag as well. It was removed with only minor changes to the article.
I think we have enough to show he's notable per WP:BIO. Full citation information will help immensely making this clear, and in getting this article cleaned up.
I don't find the notability very clear. Anyone want to summarize here to help the cleanup? -- Ronz ( talk) 19:52, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
re Ronz: "notable aspects of his life" -Fisher unemployment cycle forecast already complete (2008-2009 bottom, 2009-2010 top). Fisher book required reading for MBAs including Berkeley (New Venture Finance EWMBA 295T). —Preceding unsigned comment added by PredilCO ( talk • contribs) 18:05, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Diannaa. The introduction to the applicable 40 under 40 award is here http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/stories/2006/10/09/focus1.html (note the last portion of the URL is “focus1” and note “focus 2” through “focus41” describes the 40 award recipients including “focus 16” that is Fisher. I did not find a page listing all the recipients but this should be sufficient. Your edits to this page are thoughtful and comprehensive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PredilCO ( talk • contribs) 21:34, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
The notability of Fisher’s last company to Oracle’s security strategy is included in this book http://www.amazon.com/Designing-Framework-Identity-Management-Osborne/dp/0071741372 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.230.109.89 ( talk) 09:50, 20 November 2010 (UTC) Lists these speaking engagements: Some speaking engagements 2011 Jan UC Berkeley 2010 Nov TechColumbus Ohio (Trip rescheduled) 2010 Nov TechAngels Ohio (Trip rescheduled) 2010 Nov Columbia University (Trip rescheduled) 2010 Mar RSA Annual Conference 2010 Mar NIRI Silicon Valley annual conference 2010 Jan UC Berkeley 2010 April Licensing Executives Society 10th annual 2009 Sep Global Security Challenge 2009 May Hewlett Packard 2009 May Business Leadership Council/Kepler's Menlo Park 2009 Mar San Jose State University 2009 July Yale University 2009 Feb UC Berkeley 2009 Dec University of SF 2009 Dec Churchill Club 2009 Aug Commonwealth Club of California 2008 Sep Yale University 2008 Sep Vassar College 2008 Sep University of SF 2008 Sep Columbia University 2008 Sep Brown University 2008 Sep Book Passage 2008 Oct NIRI Silicon Valley 2008 Oct EO North Carolina 2008 Nov Carnegie Mellon 2008 Dec EO Tennessee —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.182.213 ( talk) 07:30, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
"Unemployment 8.9%: Jon Fisher's Long Range Forecast Stands the Test of Time The entrepreneur's numbers prove to be very accurate, connect housing to joblessness" http://fora.tv/topic/economy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.182.213 ( talk) 17:23, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Mr. Fisher is co-inventor of 4 issued patents 7,908,645, 7,822,990, 7,616,764, 7,596,701 from Bharosa, suggest "Issued Patents" between "Honors" and "Bibliography" or perhaps brief inclusion in body. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.182.213 ( talk) 17:58, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Suggestion add Philanthropy section: Mr. Fisher served as a Nueva School trustee https://nuevaschool.org/base.php?q__=FctGstuOXD4rB8hWu%2F4cZgWyHhJhtKHkDxOb9zJngpC1W2Z6xXJO0xnZOYaen%2FOl and Alumni Chair of its $26M capital campaign https://nuevaschool.org/base.php?q__=g1Wk97emEThej6Tn8cycqX6dasRy2UqOnPM0uvbStKsF4BqMu3wNuBXPC5%2BTMvHw including the building of the Hillside Learning Complex, renovating the historic Crocker Mansion, and strengthening Nueva’s Endowment https://nuevaschool.org/base.php?q__=VToGMWxBy6EH1ZKlNyNlIqfA2v5WPb%2Bn3%2BKieyWGmig%3D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.182.213 ( talk) 05:49, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Suggested section: “Angel Investments” including Emphasis Search http://venturebeat.com/2008/04/21/emphasis-search-raises-1m-to-help-you-find-the-right-doctor/ Linksify http://techcrunch.com/2009/08/27/linksify-gets-a-500000-injection-aims-to-improve-contact-management/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.182.213 ( talk) 20:55, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
Suggest add this image File:Jonfishermarquette.jpg of Mr. Fisher speaking at Marquette University in April 2008 initiating unemployment forecast. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.182.213 ( talk) 03:46, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Suggestion is to add in lead article that Mr. Fisher is also known for advocating start-up entrepreneurs design their companies for acquisition as that is the thesis of his book as well as the topic for many keynote speeches. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.182.213 ( talk) 18:53, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Fisher correctly forecasted the timing of the U.S. debt crisis outlined in this article in March, 2010 http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?section_id=466&doc_id=189367 that should be included in the body of this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.182.213 ( talk) 04:51, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
Tuesday March 16, 2010 2:57:02 PM
When in 2011, Jon? A this time it's political ---we need to elect who China and Japan want and if we don't that could be the start...Q4, 2011 fisherjonbThinkernetter
Jim Kovach former 49er announced as COO of CrowdOptic http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2011/12/09/ex-49er-named-crowdoptic-coo.html
Fisher's new company CrowdOptic is credited with inventing a new mobile category (should go in 1st paragraph) Focused-Based Services (FBS): The Next Generation of LBS? http://www.frost.com/c/10392/blog/blog-display.do?bdata=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5mcm9zdC5jb20vYy8xMDM5Mi9ibG9nL2luZGV4LmRvP3BhZ2VTaXplPTdAfkBCbG9nQH5AMTMyNTMxNTExNzg1NA%3D%3D&id=1239674 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.178.17 ( talk) 07:06, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2012/04/06/the-founders-crowdoptic-brings-context-to-social-with-augmented-reality-app/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.179.231 ( talk) 05:06, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2011/12/09/ex-49er-named-crowdoptic-coo.html however the reference is to Fisher's company making the Focus-Based Services claim so perhaps this reference as well as the blog because it is the lead mobile analyst for a significant analyst firm - Frost & Sullivan http://www.frost.com/prod/servlet/people-analysts-profile.pag?mode=open&sid=4058952 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.178.17 ( talk) 07:18, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps this can be first source with others to be added. Wiki should be timely as well as well documented and this is now three confirmed sources that Fisher's company is first Focus-Based Service, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.178.17 ( talk) 03:56, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
http://www.research-live.com/news/technology/what-are-you-looking-at?-crowdoptic-wants-to-know/4006651.article Is this enough source material to support Fisher emerging as co-inventor of Focus-Based Services? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.178.17 ( talk) 04:34, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Sources supporting Fisher as co-inventor of Focus-Based Service (founding CEO CrowdOptic)
http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/Infineon-Raceway-Selects-CrowdOptic-as-Mobile-Partner-for-Live-EventsSonoma-Valley-Race-Venue-Selects-CrowdOptic-for-06437116 "Infineon Raceway is an early adopter of mobile technologies that can be used to create an immersive fan experience, whether it's NASCAR, NHRA drag racing, INDYCAR or another of the many forms of racing we feature," said Infineon Raceway vice president of marketing John Cardinale. "CrowdOptic is first-of-its-kind technology which tracks crowd focus by collecting real-time data on where individuals are pointing their mobile phones."
http://m.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2012/01/augmented-reality-crowdoptic-crowding-an-optic/ CrowdOptic: given their bizarre photogrammetric technology, they’ve never been one of those “me too” outfits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.178.17 ( talk) 17:09, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
http://www.efytimes.com/e1/fullnews.asp?edid=76293 "As a global leader in sports and entertainment management, we are always looking for ways to Enhance In-Venue Experience for our fans and create value for all stakeholders. CrowdOptic's mobile technology can be used to create an immersive fan experience," said IMG Reliance's COO Ashu Jindal. "CrowdOptic is first-of-its-kind technology which tracks the crowd's focus by collecting real time data about where individuals are pointing their mobile phone."
http://www.frost.com/c/10392/blog/blog-display.do?bdata=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5mcm9zdC5jb20vYy8xMDM5Mi9ibG9nL2luZGV4LmRvQH5AQmxvZ0B%2BQDEzMjUzMzk3NTkzMTM%3D&id=1239674 Focused-Based Services (FBS) are an emerging mobile category that will play a significant role in the next generation of location-based services (LBS). FBS are delivered based on what the user is looking at in real-time versus simply where the user is (location). In contrast to augmented reality, which combines location and mobile Internet search to provide information on landmarks in static environments, FBS enables the tracking and tagging of objects (or individuals) in moving or dynamic environments.
AutoReach/AutoNation reference in Merc http://www.mercurynews.com/chris-obrien/ci_20943675/obrien-jon-fisher-says-selling-and-not-ipo There is request for this in business career section — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.179.231 ( talk) 02:40, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
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@ Hawaii 808 1986: Hello.
This is the source you added to support "investor" in the first sentence:
This source doesn't call him an "investor". It calls him a "serial entrepreneur".
Further, the lead isn't intended to be a laundry list of all possible titles, it is intended to be a brief overview of how sources reliably and consistently define the topic. I dispute that sources consistently define him as a public speaker, as there is only one example of such cited in the article. Further, his viral speech was related to his role as an adjunct professor, not as a stand-alone position.
Since your accounts has only ever made edits around this topic, I recommend reviewing Wikipedia:Conflict of interest if this applies to you.
Please also note that, per
Help:Minor edit, A minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute.
The addition of
vaguely promotional language to the lead is not minor as the term is used on Wikipedia.
Thank you. Grayfell ( talk) 02:44, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
Page has 202 editors in 16 years never with “advertisement” flag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.170.2.85 ( talk) 02:26, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Definitely not 202 editors. Please avoid making things up and please sign your comments. 173.218.38.212 ( talk) 23:03, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Julie Bort is a conservative and well known journo; on this particular page she is quoted as follows:
In 2016 Julie Bort wrote for Business Insider that CrowdOptic's technology was "so cool, we've never seen anything like it."
I left it, since it provides context to the prior paragraph. But if you see it as even remotely promotional of herself or of the subject, let me know and I’ll cut it. 173.218.38.212 ( talk) 23:03, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
source says:
Jon’s former company Bharosa was awarded a key contextual authentication patent—number 7908645. It ultimately received five issued patents with 12 patents pending. His current company CrowdOptic has just been awarded a US patent allowance for its new and innovative solution. Fisher explains: “We recently received a patent allowance on the technology behind triangulating 2 or more electronic devices focused in the same direction at the same time. For instance, consider two phones at a common event triangulated to come up with a location of where the phones are looking.”
Washington Times
Compare that to the article:
Fisher was a co-patentee in a contextual authentication patent awarded to Bharosa, which later received five issued patents and has twelve patents pending.
Note that he also says: “I like to be referred to as an inventor” says the 20-year serial entrepreneur. “I build businesses from ground zero. Society calls that entrepreneurship; I call it invention.”
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I think we should get rid of the "Prediction of 2010 US unemployment peak" section. It is ultimately patting him on the back for doing something unremarkable. The sources are his predictions, not other people (significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject) who wrote about them so they don't appear to be notable. Even for Nostradamus we don't have sections in his article for each individual prediction. And in the articles about Jon and other CEOs we don't have sections about each prediction they got wrong. Polygnotus ( talk) 23:34, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Smart glasses will replace Smart phonesin 2016 [1]. Embarrassing. Polygnotus ( talk) 07:11, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Jon Fisher (born January 19, 1972) is a Silicon Valley entrepreneur.
So we got 3 facts: a birth date, a location and a job description.
This claim has 4 refs (see WP:CITEKILL), despite the fact that it is very unlikely to be disputed.
The first source, marinmagazine, doesn't mention a date of birth nor Silicon Valley.
The second source, a WSJ blog, says "a serial entrepreneur, has been the CEO of three companies in the Valley".
The third source, mercurynews, calls him a "serial entrepreneur" but does not specify his location or date of birth.
The fourth source, bizjournals, calls him an entrepreneur and says "the CEO of CrowdOptic, the San Francisco-based startup".
So the one thing that should actually be sourced, his date of birth, is unsourced. And the four sources used only support the parts of the sentence that will not be disputed (we know he is an entrepreneur). It is unclear if he actually lives in Silicon Valley and what his date of birth is based on those sources. I think this article needs a rewrite. Polygnotus ( talk) 07:14, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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