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![]() | On 28 March 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Jomboy. The result of the discussion was Town moved, but no consensus on the person. |
The result of the move request was: Town moved, but no consensus on the person. There are two major camps in this RM: the person being primary by usage, and the place being primary by long-term significance. This balances out into a WP:NOPRIMARY situation. ( non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 18:00, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
– Two and a half years after Jimmy "Jomboy" O'Brien became a well-known persona in sports media with his video on the Houston Astros sign stealing scandal, I think it's safe to say that he has become the primary topic for the word "Jomboy" in English, as borne out by Google and Google News searches. The city in Uzbekistan has a population of 11,000, and even the Uzbek Wikipedia only has a few paragraphs' worth of content on it. Only 82 people visited the city article in February, and of those 82 at least 36 clicked through to Jomboy O'Brien. You can see here the massive surge of views the city article got during the Astros scandal, and how it never died back down. There were only a few months prior to the Astros video that the city got more pageviews than it's gotten the past few months, and even then, Jomboy O'Brien was still a well-known baseball personality at that time. If you go back before June of 2018, the city consistently got 50-75 views per month, keeping in mind that at most 46 people visiting the article this past month were actually looking for it (probably considerably less considering some people just don't click navigation links).
If there isn't consensus for this, I would suggest still moving the city article and making Jomboy a DAB, and also perhaps giving O'Brien a more concise title... either Jomboy (entertainer) or Jimmy "Jomboy" O'Brien. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she/they) 13:53, 28 March 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Steel1943 ( talk) 21:26, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
=/ Red Slash 23:35, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved as proposed. Consensus is firmly against titling with "Jimmy O'Brien". There is debate between different various options, which would be better served by opening a new move request. ( non-admin closure) Natg 19 ( talk) 23:32, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
Jomboy (sports media) → Jimmy O'Brien (sports media) – It seems to me that, now that "Jomboy" has evolved from a single person into a full-fledged media company, it makes more sense to identify the man as Jimmy O'Brien rather than as Jomboy. Most reliable sources refer to him as Jimmy O'Brien, and only mention "Jomboy" as the name of his company. This was done in today's NY Times article about him (probably the most substantial reliable-source article about him), as well as in the New York Post, Forbes, and Deadline. An NJ.com article called him 'Jomboy' in the title, but consistently referred to him as O'Brien throughout the article.
O'Brien himself seems to be using a mix of his two names now. On Twitter he's Jomboy, but on Instagram he's Jimmy O'Brien. The Weekly Dumb is presented by Jimmy and Jake, but Talkin' Yanks is presented by Jomboy and Jake.
To use the article title criteria, I think both "Jomboy" and "Jimmy O'Brien" are recognizable names, but "Jimmy O'Brien" is more natural (it's odd to use "Jomboy" in a sentence in an encyclopedia; in fact, this article already refers to him "O'Brien" on most mentions) and more precise (it distinguishes him from his company).
There is the possibility that we could have a separate article about the company titled Jomboy Media, but I don't think it makes sense for O'Brien's article to be titled Jomboy. IagoQnsi ( talk) 02:27, 15 September 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 14:23, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
The total views on Jomboy's account is now closer to 1.2 billion rather than 1.0 billion. Squarular ( talk) 16:40, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
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![]() | On 28 March 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Jomboy. The result of the discussion was Town moved, but no consensus on the person. |
The result of the move request was: Town moved, but no consensus on the person. There are two major camps in this RM: the person being primary by usage, and the place being primary by long-term significance. This balances out into a WP:NOPRIMARY situation. ( non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mello hi! ( 投稿) 18:00, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
– Two and a half years after Jimmy "Jomboy" O'Brien became a well-known persona in sports media with his video on the Houston Astros sign stealing scandal, I think it's safe to say that he has become the primary topic for the word "Jomboy" in English, as borne out by Google and Google News searches. The city in Uzbekistan has a population of 11,000, and even the Uzbek Wikipedia only has a few paragraphs' worth of content on it. Only 82 people visited the city article in February, and of those 82 at least 36 clicked through to Jomboy O'Brien. You can see here the massive surge of views the city article got during the Astros scandal, and how it never died back down. There were only a few months prior to the Astros video that the city got more pageviews than it's gotten the past few months, and even then, Jomboy O'Brien was still a well-known baseball personality at that time. If you go back before June of 2018, the city consistently got 50-75 views per month, keeping in mind that at most 46 people visiting the article this past month were actually looking for it (probably considerably less considering some people just don't click navigation links).
If there isn't consensus for this, I would suggest still moving the city article and making Jomboy a DAB, and also perhaps giving O'Brien a more concise title... either Jomboy (entertainer) or Jimmy "Jomboy" O'Brien. -- Tamzin cetacean needed (she/they) 13:53, 28 March 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Steel1943 ( talk) 21:26, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
=/ Red Slash 23:35, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved as proposed. Consensus is firmly against titling with "Jimmy O'Brien". There is debate between different various options, which would be better served by opening a new move request. ( non-admin closure) Natg 19 ( talk) 23:32, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
Jomboy (sports media) → Jimmy O'Brien (sports media) – It seems to me that, now that "Jomboy" has evolved from a single person into a full-fledged media company, it makes more sense to identify the man as Jimmy O'Brien rather than as Jomboy. Most reliable sources refer to him as Jimmy O'Brien, and only mention "Jomboy" as the name of his company. This was done in today's NY Times article about him (probably the most substantial reliable-source article about him), as well as in the New York Post, Forbes, and Deadline. An NJ.com article called him 'Jomboy' in the title, but consistently referred to him as O'Brien throughout the article.
O'Brien himself seems to be using a mix of his two names now. On Twitter he's Jomboy, but on Instagram he's Jimmy O'Brien. The Weekly Dumb is presented by Jimmy and Jake, but Talkin' Yanks is presented by Jomboy and Jake.
To use the article title criteria, I think both "Jomboy" and "Jimmy O'Brien" are recognizable names, but "Jimmy O'Brien" is more natural (it's odd to use "Jomboy" in a sentence in an encyclopedia; in fact, this article already refers to him "O'Brien" on most mentions) and more precise (it distinguishes him from his company).
There is the possibility that we could have a separate article about the company titled Jomboy Media, but I don't think it makes sense for O'Brien's article to be titled Jomboy. IagoQnsi ( talk) 02:27, 15 September 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk) 14:23, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
The total views on Jomboy's account is now closer to 1.2 billion rather than 1.0 billion. Squarular ( talk) 16:40, 15 April 2024 (UTC)