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I'll greatly expand this article. The highest scoring RAF ace should have a better one than this. Dapi89 ( talk) 12:58, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
When looking for newspaper obits just now, I found this one http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/obituaries/article473054.ece which is for another Johnnie Johnson, this time from Bomber Command. He's borderline notable, wartime Wing Commander with DFC and Bar, and commanded RAF forces during the Indonesia-Malaysia confrontation, so perhaps we ought to consider moving this to Johnnie Johnson (RAF fighter pilot) or something? David Underdown ( talk) 12:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I agree. A "DFC and Barer" should have a page without question. If Knights Cross holders are notable enough, then that is. Dapi89 ( talk) 18:00, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Bzuk, where Johnson is quoted writing about Malan, you seem to have chagned the page number from 245, to 275. Was that intentional? David Underdown ( talk) 20:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
The introduction speaks of 34 'confirmed victories', but there is no reference. Were these in reality the number of victory claims made by Johnson, rather than confirmed ones? There is no reference to the exact nature of his claims, so this would need to be supplied with a source. EDIT: It would appear that in the main body of text there is a source, Shores and Williams 1994, p. 358., speaking of victory claims (ie. not confirmed). The intro was edited accordingly, with this source added. Can someone verify? Kurfürst ( talk) 07:12, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
The amount of text is approaching a small book. Isn't it about time to start pruning? FWiW Bzuk ( talk) 19:53, 9 October 2012 (UTC).
Some examples of other Wiki articles about aerial "aces" with images: Douglas Bader: five images, "Sailor" Malan: three images, Erich Hartmann: three images, Marmaduke "Pat" Pattle: two images, David McCampbell: two images, George Beurling: six images, Gabby Gabreski: five images, Joseph C. McConnell: four images; Johnnie Johnson: five images (now). There are no definitive guidelines but there is a category for identifying articles with too many images, a decidedly subjective appraisal, but nonetheless, one that other editors have used. FWiW Bzuk ( talk) 06:02, 15 October 2012 (UTC).
In response to a query about the exact nature of problems in expanding the article:
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I'll greatly expand this article. The highest scoring RAF ace should have a better one than this. Dapi89 ( talk) 12:58, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
When looking for newspaper obits just now, I found this one http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/obituaries/article473054.ece which is for another Johnnie Johnson, this time from Bomber Command. He's borderline notable, wartime Wing Commander with DFC and Bar, and commanded RAF forces during the Indonesia-Malaysia confrontation, so perhaps we ought to consider moving this to Johnnie Johnson (RAF fighter pilot) or something? David Underdown ( talk) 12:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
I agree. A "DFC and Barer" should have a page without question. If Knights Cross holders are notable enough, then that is. Dapi89 ( talk) 18:00, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Bzuk, where Johnson is quoted writing about Malan, you seem to have chagned the page number from 245, to 275. Was that intentional? David Underdown ( talk) 20:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
The introduction speaks of 34 'confirmed victories', but there is no reference. Were these in reality the number of victory claims made by Johnson, rather than confirmed ones? There is no reference to the exact nature of his claims, so this would need to be supplied with a source. EDIT: It would appear that in the main body of text there is a source, Shores and Williams 1994, p. 358., speaking of victory claims (ie. not confirmed). The intro was edited accordingly, with this source added. Can someone verify? Kurfürst ( talk) 07:12, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
The amount of text is approaching a small book. Isn't it about time to start pruning? FWiW Bzuk ( talk) 19:53, 9 October 2012 (UTC).
Some examples of other Wiki articles about aerial "aces" with images: Douglas Bader: five images, "Sailor" Malan: three images, Erich Hartmann: three images, Marmaduke "Pat" Pattle: two images, David McCampbell: two images, George Beurling: six images, Gabby Gabreski: five images, Joseph C. McConnell: four images; Johnnie Johnson: five images (now). There are no definitive guidelines but there is a category for identifying articles with too many images, a decidedly subjective appraisal, but nonetheless, one that other editors have used. FWiW Bzuk ( talk) 06:02, 15 October 2012 (UTC).
In response to a query about the exact nature of problems in expanding the article:
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