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Please note Rudolf Steiner already mentioned the seer of patmos, see eg http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/EsoCosmo/19060614p01.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.246.250.145 ( talk) 07:16, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Others contend that they were at least three separate individuals.
How could they have been more than three separate individuals? john k 07:49, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I have merged this article to Authorship of the Johannine works because:
-- Ephilei 16:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
After much research on the subject of John the Apostle, I am in a the corner of a centralized location for all of his history and works. The splintered history of the world have caused him and his works to be attributed to many Johns of different names. My conclusion is that they are all of the same origin. John the Apostle had an amazing long-life fraught with oppression and enlightenment. He went from being an endocrine-deprived young man(Beloved Disciple), to being an enlightened and exiled feminine male(St. John of Patmos), and then became the masculine male teacher (St. John the Evangelist). My personal theory is that John the Apostle suffered from a medical condition known as Prolactinoma ( http://www.endocrine.niddk.nih.gov/pubs/prolact/prolact.htm), or a Prolactin-secreting pituitary tumor, which eased up later in his life. I believe that is what made him Jesus's Beloved Disciple, because in a sense he was both male and female. He also probably lived an extraordinary long time because of his condition. His life is a remarkable case-study in which faith overcame the adversity that his condition caused and led him to a life of self-enlightenment. John 7:33, 17 March 2007
I'd rather stand with Irenaeus than "modern" scholars. I've changed the word, "most," to "some" for that reason. There are a LOT of people who gag over the idea, and modern scholars are constantly having their fits of revisionism. It's pathetic. Sky 05:16, 7 June 2007 (UTC)Sky
It is the use of little used/obscure words like "conflated" that give encylopedias, especially, and scholars, generally, a bad name! Why can't a word in normal use be employed? Have you looked at Strunk and Whyte's "Elements of Style" lately? It is often useful. Student7 00:07, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I removed the statement that John is knows as "John of Nazarene". Firstly Nazarene means "of Nazareth" so the title means "John of of Nazareth". One reference was supplied to back this up, but the word "Nazarene" does not appear in the page referenced. DJ Clayworth ( talk) 13:32, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
A Nazarean or Nazarite can also apply to a very righteous Hebrew like it did to Samson. 2601:580:4:7D7:F08C:4154:4988:B8C1 ( talk) 17:44, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
At no point in the article does it mention any dates, not even the century that he lived in. When was he born, roughly? 78.105.132.30 ( talk) 20:15, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Dionysius of Alexandria and Eusebius of Caesarer are listed as earlier Christian writers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.35.142 ( talk) 08:44, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
I AM a Bible scholar and we are split about 50-50 on whether the author of The Revelation/ Apocalypse of John was the Apostle John. But if you were to tour the Island of Patmos today, your guide would say, "It was the Apostle John who was exiled here and wrote what became the last book of the Bible." 104.190.63.217 ( talk) 16:31, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
St. John is also venerated in Protestant churches, at least those such as Lutheranism and the Anglican Communion who venerate saints. 2600:1004:B179:F58A:0:3:56ED:FD01 ( talk) 21:58, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
Why is every profit white just a curious question 2601:6C5:8100:27B0:692B:940E:6204:D1F5 ( talk) 03:42, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
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Please note Rudolf Steiner already mentioned the seer of patmos, see eg http://wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/EsoCosmo/19060614p01.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.246.250.145 ( talk) 07:16, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Others contend that they were at least three separate individuals.
How could they have been more than three separate individuals? john k 07:49, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
I have merged this article to Authorship of the Johannine works because:
-- Ephilei 16:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
After much research on the subject of John the Apostle, I am in a the corner of a centralized location for all of his history and works. The splintered history of the world have caused him and his works to be attributed to many Johns of different names. My conclusion is that they are all of the same origin. John the Apostle had an amazing long-life fraught with oppression and enlightenment. He went from being an endocrine-deprived young man(Beloved Disciple), to being an enlightened and exiled feminine male(St. John of Patmos), and then became the masculine male teacher (St. John the Evangelist). My personal theory is that John the Apostle suffered from a medical condition known as Prolactinoma ( http://www.endocrine.niddk.nih.gov/pubs/prolact/prolact.htm), or a Prolactin-secreting pituitary tumor, which eased up later in his life. I believe that is what made him Jesus's Beloved Disciple, because in a sense he was both male and female. He also probably lived an extraordinary long time because of his condition. His life is a remarkable case-study in which faith overcame the adversity that his condition caused and led him to a life of self-enlightenment. John 7:33, 17 March 2007
I'd rather stand with Irenaeus than "modern" scholars. I've changed the word, "most," to "some" for that reason. There are a LOT of people who gag over the idea, and modern scholars are constantly having their fits of revisionism. It's pathetic. Sky 05:16, 7 June 2007 (UTC)Sky
It is the use of little used/obscure words like "conflated" that give encylopedias, especially, and scholars, generally, a bad name! Why can't a word in normal use be employed? Have you looked at Strunk and Whyte's "Elements of Style" lately? It is often useful. Student7 00:07, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I removed the statement that John is knows as "John of Nazarene". Firstly Nazarene means "of Nazareth" so the title means "John of of Nazareth". One reference was supplied to back this up, but the word "Nazarene" does not appear in the page referenced. DJ Clayworth ( talk) 13:32, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
A Nazarean or Nazarite can also apply to a very righteous Hebrew like it did to Samson. 2601:580:4:7D7:F08C:4154:4988:B8C1 ( talk) 17:44, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
At no point in the article does it mention any dates, not even the century that he lived in. When was he born, roughly? 78.105.132.30 ( talk) 20:15, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Dionysius of Alexandria and Eusebius of Caesarer are listed as earlier Christian writers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.35.142 ( talk) 08:44, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
I AM a Bible scholar and we are split about 50-50 on whether the author of The Revelation/ Apocalypse of John was the Apostle John. But if you were to tour the Island of Patmos today, your guide would say, "It was the Apostle John who was exiled here and wrote what became the last book of the Bible." 104.190.63.217 ( talk) 16:31, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
St. John is also venerated in Protestant churches, at least those such as Lutheranism and the Anglican Communion who venerate saints. 2600:1004:B179:F58A:0:3:56ED:FD01 ( talk) 21:58, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
Why is every profit white just a curious question 2601:6C5:8100:27B0:692B:940E:6204:D1F5 ( talk) 03:42, 20 October 2023 (UTC)