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To start by saying Vorster supported the Nazi regime is not appropriate and immediately creates a wrong impression of the man. The context of his supporting the Nazi regime also needs to be looked at. He supported the Nazi regime because they were in a war against Britain, not because of their policies. The reason for this was because the British killed 25 000 Afrikaner women and children during the Boer War (1899 - 1902). Vorster therefore supported Germany, not necessarily Hitler. A credible source that can be cited for this information, and most of Afrikaner history in general is: The Afrikaners (Hermann Gilliomee, 2003). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.84.73.120 ( talk) 16:27, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I seem to recall reading in David Harrison's book "The White Tribe of Africa" a quotation of an interview the author conducted with Vorster. Vorster remarked that he was detained in the Koffiefontein detention centre during the Second World War by the Smuts government not because he was pro-Nazi, but because he was anti-British. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.179.48.145 ( talk) 09:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
The reference to "Vorster's past as a draft-dodger and Nazi sympathizer" can only be described as POV - it isn't in any way balanced, or even accurate. 119.224.91.84 ( talk) 04:07, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
The "Permission" field of the box for the main photo used on this page simply says "See below", but does not give any details below, or anywhere else. I don't know anything about SA copyright law, but surely this isn't good enough? 86.136.250.66 ( talk) 18:15, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
The statement "the complete abolishment of non-white political representation, " is misleading and then even contradicted by what it links to. -- 41.150.234.176 ( talk) 11:01, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
I'm surprised to see the pronunciation of Vorster's name described as 'Dutch', since the Dutch language is no longer used in South Africa. The indicated pronunciation - especially of the 'o' in 'Johannes' and the 'v' in 'Vorster' - is quite clearly Afrikaans (Vorster's mother tongue) and not Dutch - the two languages have been quite distinct since the nineteenth century. Worse, I believe Afrikaans-speakers consider the use of 'Dutch' to describe their language as a demeaning hangover from British colonial rule, especially the days when children 'caught' speaking it at school were forced to wear a sign reading (in English) 'I'm a donkey, I spoke Dutch'. Since there's no reason to call the language 'Dutch' in modern contexts, I suspect this is a common error throughout Wikipedia. Perhaps some general Wikipedia editor could use an internal search function to track down instances of it - as well as ones of Belgian Dutch being referred to as 'Flemish', as though that were a different language. To be quite clear: the same Dutch language is used in Holland and Belgium, with minor regional variations, but not in South Africa, where it evolved long ago into Afrikaans. 92.111.250.34 ( talk) 13:23, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
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The section Early life states that "Vorster was born in 1915 Jamestown, Western Cape, Union of South Africa, the fifteenth child of a successful sheep farmer." but the sidebar differs in stating "Born: Balthazar Johannes Vorster, 13 December 1915, Uitenhage, Cape Province"
Further, the citation to the Early life reference quoted above does not agree with the text. The citation states: "Born in Uitenhage on 13 December 1915, the thirteenth of 14 children, Vorster was the son of Willem Carel and Elizabeth Vorster, nee Wagenaar." SA History - Citation 1
This will need original research or further citation for accuracy.
Annesville ( talk) 20:42, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
In terms of WP:COMMONNAME should the article title be John Vorster (as it is now), or B.J. Vorster? I get the impression that B.J. Vorster was used in South Africa, and John Vorster overseas, but I could be wrong, and it was before my time. Park3r ( talk) 08:01, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
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To start by saying Vorster supported the Nazi regime is not appropriate and immediately creates a wrong impression of the man. The context of his supporting the Nazi regime also needs to be looked at. He supported the Nazi regime because they were in a war against Britain, not because of their policies. The reason for this was because the British killed 25 000 Afrikaner women and children during the Boer War (1899 - 1902). Vorster therefore supported Germany, not necessarily Hitler. A credible source that can be cited for this information, and most of Afrikaner history in general is: The Afrikaners (Hermann Gilliomee, 2003). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.84.73.120 ( talk) 16:27, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I seem to recall reading in David Harrison's book "The White Tribe of Africa" a quotation of an interview the author conducted with Vorster. Vorster remarked that he was detained in the Koffiefontein detention centre during the Second World War by the Smuts government not because he was pro-Nazi, but because he was anti-British. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.179.48.145 ( talk) 09:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
The reference to "Vorster's past as a draft-dodger and Nazi sympathizer" can only be described as POV - it isn't in any way balanced, or even accurate. 119.224.91.84 ( talk) 04:07, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
The "Permission" field of the box for the main photo used on this page simply says "See below", but does not give any details below, or anywhere else. I don't know anything about SA copyright law, but surely this isn't good enough? 86.136.250.66 ( talk) 18:15, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
The statement "the complete abolishment of non-white political representation, " is misleading and then even contradicted by what it links to. -- 41.150.234.176 ( talk) 11:01, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
I'm surprised to see the pronunciation of Vorster's name described as 'Dutch', since the Dutch language is no longer used in South Africa. The indicated pronunciation - especially of the 'o' in 'Johannes' and the 'v' in 'Vorster' - is quite clearly Afrikaans (Vorster's mother tongue) and not Dutch - the two languages have been quite distinct since the nineteenth century. Worse, I believe Afrikaans-speakers consider the use of 'Dutch' to describe their language as a demeaning hangover from British colonial rule, especially the days when children 'caught' speaking it at school were forced to wear a sign reading (in English) 'I'm a donkey, I spoke Dutch'. Since there's no reason to call the language 'Dutch' in modern contexts, I suspect this is a common error throughout Wikipedia. Perhaps some general Wikipedia editor could use an internal search function to track down instances of it - as well as ones of Belgian Dutch being referred to as 'Flemish', as though that were a different language. To be quite clear: the same Dutch language is used in Holland and Belgium, with minor regional variations, but not in South Africa, where it evolved long ago into Afrikaans. 92.111.250.34 ( talk) 13:23, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
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The section Early life states that "Vorster was born in 1915 Jamestown, Western Cape, Union of South Africa, the fifteenth child of a successful sheep farmer." but the sidebar differs in stating "Born: Balthazar Johannes Vorster, 13 December 1915, Uitenhage, Cape Province"
Further, the citation to the Early life reference quoted above does not agree with the text. The citation states: "Born in Uitenhage on 13 December 1915, the thirteenth of 14 children, Vorster was the son of Willem Carel and Elizabeth Vorster, nee Wagenaar." SA History - Citation 1
This will need original research or further citation for accuracy.
Annesville ( talk) 20:42, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
In terms of WP:COMMONNAME should the article title be John Vorster (as it is now), or B.J. Vorster? I get the impression that B.J. Vorster was used in South Africa, and John Vorster overseas, but I could be wrong, and it was before my time. Park3r ( talk) 08:01, 13 May 2018 (UTC)