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To whom it may concern in the small world of people who give a damn about John Neal:
I'm the guy who deleted the two-sentence John Neal (writer) stub article in 2006 and published the comparatively longer, albeit poorly written and completely uncited, article in 2006. Thanks to help from others, this article has improved some over time, though it still is basically the one that my excited, young self authored, with many additions and corrections.
Over the last few weeks I have undertaken a lot of research to prepare for overhauling this article. While doing this research and reading more on Wikipedia best practices I recently made a few edits to this article, but I will soon be adding a bunch of new sections to this article and to re-writing much of the existing content so it can better serve the public and achieve a higher grade on Wikipedia.
Expect big changes soon!
Dugan Murphy ( talk) 18:07, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
The conversation below is copied from User talk:RobDuch since it relates to this article. - Dugan Murphy ( talk) 17:37, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi, RobDuch! Could I interest you in participating in a peer review of John Neal (writer)? I recently overhauled the whole thing, replacing the article I wrote in 2006 and that you, among others, have helped to slowly improve over the last 14 years. I think the new article is a major improvement and hopefully worth getting the article's status upgraded, but before I request that upgrade, I put out a request for peer review.
I am asking you since you made a helpful edit in 2016 about Neal's gym at Fort Sumner (Maine).
The peer review request is linked at the top of talk:John Neal (writer).
Thanks in advance for the help!
- Dugan Murphy ( talk) 20:47, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
Please have a look at MOS:DATERANGE regarding the ranges and the formatting of dates in the table in the "Editing" section (this should have been raised at FAC). Regards, SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:16, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus. No agreement as to whether the writer satisfies WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. ( non-admin closure) Vpab15 ( talk) 17:14, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
– I believe John Neal (writer) to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of any other article from the relevant disambiguation page that would use the "John Neal" article title. This move request was recommended during John Neal (writer)'s recent FAC. I offer these reasons to justify the recommendation. 1. More articles link to John Neal (writer) than any other that would use the "John Neal" title (266 vs. 148 for John Neal (footballer, born 1932), which is the runner-up) 2. The article gets the most traffic of all that would use the "John Neal" article name. 3. In a Google Books search, 8 of the first 10 are books by or about John Neal (writer) while neither of the other 2 seem to be about the other John Neals on Wikipedia. 4. Google Trends shows the basic "John Neal" search to be much more prevalent worldwide than the "John Neal English Footballer" search term (the only other John Neal-related term to pop up as available, which seems to be a decent approximation for the second-most visited John Neal article, which is John Neal (footballer, born 1932)). 5. An encrypted basic Google search brings up 3 first-page results related to John Neal (writer) and none related to the other John Neals on Wikipedia, though the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th images in the sample image results are John Neal (businessman). The first is John Neal (writer). 6. The topical and geographic scope of John Neal (writer)'s relevance seems to me to be the broadest of all other articles that would use the "John Neal" article name, producing a longer-lasting relevance that I anticipate will outlast any WP:RECENT bias that the more recently-alive John Neals may present. Dugan Murphy ( talk) 04:42, 11 December 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. JHunterJ ( talk) 14:59, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
@ Megalibrarygirl: Thank you for creating Lydia Neal Dennett! I formerly knew nothing about her but her involvement in the will of her father and John Neal's uncle, Stephen Neal. Though mentioning her in the "Feminism" sections makes sense since that was an area she was involved late in life, I haven't seen any evidence that Neal and Dennett crossed paths outside the probate issue, so I just removed what you added, but added mention of her in the "Family and civic leadership" section. If you'd like to discuss further, feel free to do so here! -- Dugan Murphy ( talk) 19:49, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
This article is very well written and fun to read. I felt like I gained a lot from reading it. Well done. TheWikiJedi ( talk) 05:25, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
John Neal (writer) is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on January 20, 2021. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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This article is rated FA-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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To whom it may concern in the small world of people who give a damn about John Neal:
I'm the guy who deleted the two-sentence John Neal (writer) stub article in 2006 and published the comparatively longer, albeit poorly written and completely uncited, article in 2006. Thanks to help from others, this article has improved some over time, though it still is basically the one that my excited, young self authored, with many additions and corrections.
Over the last few weeks I have undertaken a lot of research to prepare for overhauling this article. While doing this research and reading more on Wikipedia best practices I recently made a few edits to this article, but I will soon be adding a bunch of new sections to this article and to re-writing much of the existing content so it can better serve the public and achieve a higher grade on Wikipedia.
Expect big changes soon!
Dugan Murphy ( talk) 18:07, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
The conversation below is copied from User talk:RobDuch since it relates to this article. - Dugan Murphy ( talk) 17:37, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi, RobDuch! Could I interest you in participating in a peer review of John Neal (writer)? I recently overhauled the whole thing, replacing the article I wrote in 2006 and that you, among others, have helped to slowly improve over the last 14 years. I think the new article is a major improvement and hopefully worth getting the article's status upgraded, but before I request that upgrade, I put out a request for peer review.
I am asking you since you made a helpful edit in 2016 about Neal's gym at Fort Sumner (Maine).
The peer review request is linked at the top of talk:John Neal (writer).
Thanks in advance for the help!
- Dugan Murphy ( talk) 20:47, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
Please have a look at MOS:DATERANGE regarding the ranges and the formatting of dates in the table in the "Editing" section (this should have been raised at FAC). Regards, SandyGeorgia ( Talk) 15:16, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: No consensus. No agreement as to whether the writer satisfies WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. ( non-admin closure) Vpab15 ( talk) 17:14, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
– I believe John Neal (writer) to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of any other article from the relevant disambiguation page that would use the "John Neal" article title. This move request was recommended during John Neal (writer)'s recent FAC. I offer these reasons to justify the recommendation. 1. More articles link to John Neal (writer) than any other that would use the "John Neal" title (266 vs. 148 for John Neal (footballer, born 1932), which is the runner-up) 2. The article gets the most traffic of all that would use the "John Neal" article name. 3. In a Google Books search, 8 of the first 10 are books by or about John Neal (writer) while neither of the other 2 seem to be about the other John Neals on Wikipedia. 4. Google Trends shows the basic "John Neal" search to be much more prevalent worldwide than the "John Neal English Footballer" search term (the only other John Neal-related term to pop up as available, which seems to be a decent approximation for the second-most visited John Neal article, which is John Neal (footballer, born 1932)). 5. An encrypted basic Google search brings up 3 first-page results related to John Neal (writer) and none related to the other John Neals on Wikipedia, though the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th images in the sample image results are John Neal (businessman). The first is John Neal (writer). 6. The topical and geographic scope of John Neal (writer)'s relevance seems to me to be the broadest of all other articles that would use the "John Neal" article name, producing a longer-lasting relevance that I anticipate will outlast any WP:RECENT bias that the more recently-alive John Neals may present. Dugan Murphy ( talk) 04:42, 11 December 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. JHunterJ ( talk) 14:59, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
@ Megalibrarygirl: Thank you for creating Lydia Neal Dennett! I formerly knew nothing about her but her involvement in the will of her father and John Neal's uncle, Stephen Neal. Though mentioning her in the "Feminism" sections makes sense since that was an area she was involved late in life, I haven't seen any evidence that Neal and Dennett crossed paths outside the probate issue, so I just removed what you added, but added mention of her in the "Family and civic leadership" section. If you'd like to discuss further, feel free to do so here! -- Dugan Murphy ( talk) 19:49, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
This article is very well written and fun to read. I felt like I gained a lot from reading it. Well done. TheWikiJedi ( talk) 05:25, 21 January 2021 (UTC)