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Controversial Claim Removed By Me.

Controversial Claim Removed By Me.

"Mewing is supported by orthodontic research.[11][12][13][14]"

I removed this. Discussion welcome, but I think it should be obvious that the sources provided did not add up to a scientific consensus or backing from the mainstream orthodontic community. (Also: did any of the sources use the term 'Mewing'?)

I would characterise the sources as, 'followers of the work of John Mew repeating the same claims Mew has made'. This is not scientific evidence to support the claim, it is minority acceptance, minority support.

The passage I removed had these sources

Source 11 https://aomtinfo.org/portfolio-item/oral-myofacial-therapy-a-breakthrough-technique-to-treat-symptoms-relating-to-breathing-problems-tmj-headaches-and-other-common-ailments/ source 12 https://apexdentaliowa.com/jaw-and-facial-development-in-adults/ Source 13 https://kidtherapy.org/helpful-articles/signs-of-improper-oral-resting-posture/ Source 14 https://oralfacialmyologytherapy.com/facial-growth-and-appearance-oral-facial-myology-therapy/

If you see my user page you can hear more about my background with this page. VorsprungDurchReden ( talk) 19:23, 29 December 2021 (UTC) reply


Edit by Garvey 96: I believe the best replacement is something like "mewing is supported by some professionals arguing that [reasons giving by supporters and indirect evidence]" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garvey 96 ( talkcontribs) 08:34, 9 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Evidence for human fossils having well developed jaws and faces

In the orthotropic section is references a claim of ancient humans almost always having good facial development and all teeth. This line need citations. Articles by Mew on https://orthotropics.com/ frequently reference that 1000 years ago Scandinavians had good teeth but I couldn't find this study.

Garvey 96. Garvey 96 ( talk) 08:41, 9 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Garvey 96 the source does not even discuss mew or his ideas. Zenomonoz ( talk) 01:39, 10 December 2023 (UTC) reply
I have since read a referencing guide and see other issue with it. I have removed that suggestion Garvey 96 ( talk) 03:34, 10 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Garvey 96, thanks, although in future it is best to strike your comments rather than delete them, so that other editors can see a clear history of the discussion. This can be done in the formatting options by selecting strike through. It looks like this. It's fine to completely remove comments that nobody has replied to yet. Cheers. Zenomonoz ( talk) 07:34, 11 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Origin of mewing

Mewing has been mentioned on 4chan archives for at least a dozen years, as well as on looksmax.org. Zogzogzog ( talk) 08:08, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply

looksmax.org was indexed by google August 2018.
what is your source? Garvey 96 ( talk) 11:23, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Controversial Claim Removed By Me.

Controversial Claim Removed By Me.

"Mewing is supported by orthodontic research.[11][12][13][14]"

I removed this. Discussion welcome, but I think it should be obvious that the sources provided did not add up to a scientific consensus or backing from the mainstream orthodontic community. (Also: did any of the sources use the term 'Mewing'?)

I would characterise the sources as, 'followers of the work of John Mew repeating the same claims Mew has made'. This is not scientific evidence to support the claim, it is minority acceptance, minority support.

The passage I removed had these sources

Source 11 https://aomtinfo.org/portfolio-item/oral-myofacial-therapy-a-breakthrough-technique-to-treat-symptoms-relating-to-breathing-problems-tmj-headaches-and-other-common-ailments/ source 12 https://apexdentaliowa.com/jaw-and-facial-development-in-adults/ Source 13 https://kidtherapy.org/helpful-articles/signs-of-improper-oral-resting-posture/ Source 14 https://oralfacialmyologytherapy.com/facial-growth-and-appearance-oral-facial-myology-therapy/

If you see my user page you can hear more about my background with this page. VorsprungDurchReden ( talk) 19:23, 29 December 2021 (UTC) reply


Edit by Garvey 96: I believe the best replacement is something like "mewing is supported by some professionals arguing that [reasons giving by supporters and indirect evidence]" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garvey 96 ( talkcontribs) 08:34, 9 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Evidence for human fossils having well developed jaws and faces

In the orthotropic section is references a claim of ancient humans almost always having good facial development and all teeth. This line need citations. Articles by Mew on https://orthotropics.com/ frequently reference that 1000 years ago Scandinavians had good teeth but I couldn't find this study.

Garvey 96. Garvey 96 ( talk) 08:41, 9 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Garvey 96 the source does not even discuss mew or his ideas. Zenomonoz ( talk) 01:39, 10 December 2023 (UTC) reply
I have since read a referencing guide and see other issue with it. I have removed that suggestion Garvey 96 ( talk) 03:34, 10 December 2023 (UTC) reply
Garvey 96, thanks, although in future it is best to strike your comments rather than delete them, so that other editors can see a clear history of the discussion. This can be done in the formatting options by selecting strike through. It looks like this. It's fine to completely remove comments that nobody has replied to yet. Cheers. Zenomonoz ( talk) 07:34, 11 December 2023 (UTC) reply

Origin of mewing

Mewing has been mentioned on 4chan archives for at least a dozen years, as well as on looksmax.org. Zogzogzog ( talk) 08:08, 31 January 2024 (UTC) reply

looksmax.org was indexed by google August 2018.
what is your source? Garvey 96 ( talk) 11:23, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply

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