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I've assigned myself to clean this one up. Grandwazir 23:24, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Was this the SecNav who, at the same time, also served in the Naval Reserve? I wonder how that worked. - OberRanks ( talk) 02:46, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
I think something's been lost.-- JeffSmith79 ( talk) 01:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
What religion is he? What religion(s) were his grandparents? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.188.10 ( talk) 07:42, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Is he from the Lehman family that for example fielded a NY governor? No mention of parents whatsoever.-- Jrm2007 ( talk) 05:13, 15 September 2015 (UTC)-- Jrm2007 ( talk) 05:13, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
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We are writing to correct factual errors that several of us tried to delete but they were reinstated the day or after each time we deleted them. Here is the evidence that the sentence in the biography is in error. We request that it be deleted permanently.
A sentence in the biography is incorrect and misleading. It reads, "Lehman sided with General Dynamics after they falsified inspection records to hide welding flaws on submarines and pushed a settlement that paid them over $600 million dollars for what (Admiral) Rickover called shoddy work."
Rebuttal: The settlement was reached in 1978. Secretary Lehman took office in 1981. Evidence: "In October (1978) President Carter signed the defense bill authorizing the settlement...the claim had been $544 million, yet by the time the navy finished paying under all the terms of the settlement, the government had given General Dynamics a total of $639 million in cash." SOURCE: Tyler, Patrick. The Silent War, Rickover and General Dynamics. New York: Harper and Row 1986, page 247.The entry in the Wikipedia biography relies on an OpEd piece from Time Magazine, December 24, 1984. It is footnote #11. It is the source of the incorrect information, in fact, it does not even date the reference to the settlement.
Secretary Lehman never sided with General Dynamics. In fact, throughout his tenure as SECNAV he was in almost constant dispute suing them for false claims, suspending progress payments and canceling signed contracts. Here is a sample of press coverage of his relations with General Dynamics. 1. New York Times, May 22, 1985. "Secretary of the Navy John Lehman said he was canceling two missile contract with General Dynamics. www.nytimes.com/1985-05/22/business/general/general-dynamics-draw-penalties-on-navy-dealings.html. 2. Los Angeles Times, May 22,1985. Navy Secretary John Lehman accused General Dynamics of "maximizing profits without regard for the public trust. He also canceled two contracts and fined General Dynamics more than $675,000." wwww.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985. 3. United Press International (UPI), May 21, 1985. "Navy Secretary John Lehman froze all new contracts at General Dynamics because of breach of ethics." www.upi.com/Archives/1985/05/21/Navy-Secretary-John-Lehman. 4.Congressional Research Service July 12, 1985, "On August 19, 1981, Secretary Lehman accused Electric Boat of filing 'rip-off" and "preposterous" claims to gain reimbursement for their own faulty work. He promised the government would counter-sue." www.digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metacrs9051/
There are many, many more citations and they can be provided if requested. EbbenCrudele2022 ( talk) 13:34, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
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I've assigned myself to clean this one up. Grandwazir 23:24, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Was this the SecNav who, at the same time, also served in the Naval Reserve? I wonder how that worked. - OberRanks ( talk) 02:46, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
I think something's been lost.-- JeffSmith79 ( talk) 01:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
What religion is he? What religion(s) were his grandparents? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.188.10 ( talk) 07:42, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
Is he from the Lehman family that for example fielded a NY governor? No mention of parents whatsoever.-- Jrm2007 ( talk) 05:13, 15 September 2015 (UTC)-- Jrm2007 ( talk) 05:13, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined. |
We are writing to correct factual errors that several of us tried to delete but they were reinstated the day or after each time we deleted them. Here is the evidence that the sentence in the biography is in error. We request that it be deleted permanently.
A sentence in the biography is incorrect and misleading. It reads, "Lehman sided with General Dynamics after they falsified inspection records to hide welding flaws on submarines and pushed a settlement that paid them over $600 million dollars for what (Admiral) Rickover called shoddy work."
Rebuttal: The settlement was reached in 1978. Secretary Lehman took office in 1981. Evidence: "In October (1978) President Carter signed the defense bill authorizing the settlement...the claim had been $544 million, yet by the time the navy finished paying under all the terms of the settlement, the government had given General Dynamics a total of $639 million in cash." SOURCE: Tyler, Patrick. The Silent War, Rickover and General Dynamics. New York: Harper and Row 1986, page 247.The entry in the Wikipedia biography relies on an OpEd piece from Time Magazine, December 24, 1984. It is footnote #11. It is the source of the incorrect information, in fact, it does not even date the reference to the settlement.
Secretary Lehman never sided with General Dynamics. In fact, throughout his tenure as SECNAV he was in almost constant dispute suing them for false claims, suspending progress payments and canceling signed contracts. Here is a sample of press coverage of his relations with General Dynamics. 1. New York Times, May 22, 1985. "Secretary of the Navy John Lehman said he was canceling two missile contract with General Dynamics. www.nytimes.com/1985-05/22/business/general/general-dynamics-draw-penalties-on-navy-dealings.html. 2. Los Angeles Times, May 22,1985. Navy Secretary John Lehman accused General Dynamics of "maximizing profits without regard for the public trust. He also canceled two contracts and fined General Dynamics more than $675,000." wwww.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985. 3. United Press International (UPI), May 21, 1985. "Navy Secretary John Lehman froze all new contracts at General Dynamics because of breach of ethics." www.upi.com/Archives/1985/05/21/Navy-Secretary-John-Lehman. 4.Congressional Research Service July 12, 1985, "On August 19, 1981, Secretary Lehman accused Electric Boat of filing 'rip-off" and "preposterous" claims to gain reimbursement for their own faulty work. He promised the government would counter-sue." www.digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metacrs9051/
There are many, many more citations and they can be provided if requested. EbbenCrudele2022 ( talk) 13:34, 4 September 2022 (UTC)