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Edits to Wikipedia must be cited via published sources or they will be reverted. Constant attempts to edit articles without citing sources is vandalism. Damwiki1 ( talk) 07:14, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
See the tag at the top of the article page: "This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed." Damwiki1 ( talk) 09:20, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Cited sources must support your edits. Since neither source mentions a letter dated 28 May 1941 I reverted them. Wikipedia requires that cited source must specifically support your edits. Damwiki1 ( talk) 08:45, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi, thanks a lot for addressing me here (I'm new editing Wikipedia and I get a bit lost in "talk" function. Thanks also for explaining me that only published works can be cited in Wikipedia and not public archives documents such as letters. I will do as you suggest as soon as I can (and as soon as I can understand how to use the editor), updating the text and citing the sources that, in addition to Roskill support the court martial menace. The letter of May 28 from Pound to Tovey, as well as Tovey answer on May 31, 1941, in ADM 178 Admiralty repository, is referred to by R.Brodhurst in his biography of Admiral Pound when he says that the menace was also in writing (and not only verbal, during the phone call mentioned by Roskill and Kennedy).
Also, just for your info, Roskill wrote a letter to Kennedy in 1973 (when the latter asked him to review his "Pursuit" before publication) suggesting him not to trust Paffard, becausae Tovey visited him several times between 1952 and 1960, speaking very lucidly about naval history and accounting for the court martial in a way that Roskill considered reliable. Tovey also wrote in 1961 to Roskill detailing the court martial menace. As a result, after Kennedy publication, Roskill published twice the court-martial story in his books (Naval Policy between the wars, vol.2 + Churchill and the Admirals) providing the ADM 205/10 admiralty file as the proof of the menace and its outcome (until Churchill decision: "Leave it"), thus implicitly disproving Kennedy. All following historians (Correlli-Barnett, Rhys-Jones and Brodhurst among the others) cited Roskill version and not Kennedy one. The only reason why Roskill cited Kennedy, despite having been the source of the story for him, is that Kennedy published it first, adding the disclaimer about the memory against Roskill advise. Thanks again for your hints. Best wishes -- Navhistory ( talk) 10:05, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
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Edits to Wikipedia must be cited via published sources or they will be reverted. Constant attempts to edit articles without citing sources is vandalism. Damwiki1 ( talk) 07:14, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
See the tag at the top of the article page: "This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed." Damwiki1 ( talk) 09:20, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Cited sources must support your edits. Since neither source mentions a letter dated 28 May 1941 I reverted them. Wikipedia requires that cited source must specifically support your edits. Damwiki1 ( talk) 08:45, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi, thanks a lot for addressing me here (I'm new editing Wikipedia and I get a bit lost in "talk" function. Thanks also for explaining me that only published works can be cited in Wikipedia and not public archives documents such as letters. I will do as you suggest as soon as I can (and as soon as I can understand how to use the editor), updating the text and citing the sources that, in addition to Roskill support the court martial menace. The letter of May 28 from Pound to Tovey, as well as Tovey answer on May 31, 1941, in ADM 178 Admiralty repository, is referred to by R.Brodhurst in his biography of Admiral Pound when he says that the menace was also in writing (and not only verbal, during the phone call mentioned by Roskill and Kennedy).
Also, just for your info, Roskill wrote a letter to Kennedy in 1973 (when the latter asked him to review his "Pursuit" before publication) suggesting him not to trust Paffard, becausae Tovey visited him several times between 1952 and 1960, speaking very lucidly about naval history and accounting for the court martial in a way that Roskill considered reliable. Tovey also wrote in 1961 to Roskill detailing the court martial menace. As a result, after Kennedy publication, Roskill published twice the court-martial story in his books (Naval Policy between the wars, vol.2 + Churchill and the Admirals) providing the ADM 205/10 admiralty file as the proof of the menace and its outcome (until Churchill decision: "Leave it"), thus implicitly disproving Kennedy. All following historians (Correlli-Barnett, Rhys-Jones and Brodhurst among the others) cited Roskill version and not Kennedy one. The only reason why Roskill cited Kennedy, despite having been the source of the story for him, is that Kennedy published it first, adding the disclaimer about the memory against Roskill advise. Thanks again for your hints. Best wishes -- Navhistory ( talk) 10:05, 5 July 2018 (UTC)