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John I of Avesnes makes reference to him defeating and capturing Guy of Dampierre in 1253 at the Battle of West-Capelle.
Guy of Dampierre, on the other hand, makes reference to his being defeated and captured by John I of Avesnes in 1253 at the Battle of Walcheren.
So which is it? -- Calton | Talk 14:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
The article on John I of Avesnes says ...John and his brother Baldwin undertook to receive imperial recognition of their legitimacy and did so from the Emperor Frederick II in March 1243. Is there details anywhere as to what it took for John I to get his legal rights for inheritance that happened in 1243? What procedure and how often did he have to see Emperor Frederick II before he was intitled to his legal rights? John I of Avesnes died in 1257. John II, his son, ultimately became Count of Hainaut and Count of Holland, through his mother since he ultimately had legal rights to inheritance, in 1299 upon the death of Floris V's son.-- Christie the puppy lover ( talk) 16:07, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no move DrKiernan ( talk) 15:57, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
John I, Count of Hainaut →
John of Avesnes – Per
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6 for "John I, Count of Hainault".
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John I of Avesnes makes reference to him defeating and capturing Guy of Dampierre in 1253 at the Battle of West-Capelle.
Guy of Dampierre, on the other hand, makes reference to his being defeated and captured by John I of Avesnes in 1253 at the Battle of Walcheren.
So which is it? -- Calton | Talk 14:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
The article on John I of Avesnes says ...John and his brother Baldwin undertook to receive imperial recognition of their legitimacy and did so from the Emperor Frederick II in March 1243. Is there details anywhere as to what it took for John I to get his legal rights for inheritance that happened in 1243? What procedure and how often did he have to see Emperor Frederick II before he was intitled to his legal rights? John I of Avesnes died in 1257. John II, his son, ultimately became Count of Hainaut and Count of Holland, through his mother since he ultimately had legal rights to inheritance, in 1299 upon the death of Floris V's son.-- Christie the puppy lover ( talk) 16:07, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no move DrKiernan ( talk) 15:57, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
John I, Count of Hainaut →
John of Avesnes – Per
WP:COMMONNAME:
1760 gbook hits for "John of Avesnes",
6 for "John I, Count of Hainault".
DrKiernan (
talk)
19:27, 20 August 2012 (UTC)