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Something should be mentioned about his involvement with the M14 Rifle. -- Kenyon 22:10, May 14, 2005 (UTC)
Gayr-und or Grand?
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64.229.253.13
03:27, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
I heard recently that he was born "Jean Garand", and anglicised his first name to John after immigrating to the US. Is it true? 71.203.209.0 ( talk) 04:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
In the "Firearms designer" section it says he was commissioned to build a rifle and carbine, it has links to the M1 Garand and M1 Carbine, and while he may have been commissioned to build A carbine, it wasn't the M1 carbine, the M1 carbine (according to its page (and by extension it's sources)) was designed by somebody at Winchester, not Springfield (where Garand worked), he's isn't listed as a designer either, they only have similar names because the US was trying to standardize.
Regards: 172.242.108.122 ( talk) 23:48, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
(Undid revision 810426678 by Anmccaff (talk) as a Canadian it pains me, but if he spent most of his life working in U.S., this is xs emphasis on Canada)
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Trekphiler:, Garand was known for his French-Canadian origin by everyone who heard him open his mouth to speak. Yes, perhaps this might be slightly too much emphasis, but note it was in response to someone removing the "American" part.
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Here the IP changes "Canadian-American" to "Canadian born", and here ""Canadian-American " to "Canadian". Anmccaff ( talk) 20:09, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
I think that this discussion is inherently extraneous. He was born in internationally recognized, sovereign country of Canada, of which French Canada is a part of, and moved to the US and he eventually became a naturalized US citizen, anybody else would be called a Canadian-American and the only pointless bickering over a meager scrap of national pride would make anybody say any different.-- WraithWyvern ( talk) 05:54, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
An IP editor has recently raised the point that Canadian nationals were primarily seen as British subjects at the time of Garand’s birth, with only one intermediate step of several changes to Canadian citizenship occurring before he became a US citizen. It’s a narrow point, but there is something to it, and the article may need some tweaking to capture this. Qwirkle ( talk) 22:50, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
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Something should be mentioned about his involvement with the M14 Rifle. -- Kenyon 22:10, May 14, 2005 (UTC)
Gayr-und or Grand?
--
64.229.253.13
03:27, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
I heard recently that he was born "Jean Garand", and anglicised his first name to John after immigrating to the US. Is it true? 71.203.209.0 ( talk) 04:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
In the "Firearms designer" section it says he was commissioned to build a rifle and carbine, it has links to the M1 Garand and M1 Carbine, and while he may have been commissioned to build A carbine, it wasn't the M1 carbine, the M1 carbine (according to its page (and by extension it's sources)) was designed by somebody at Winchester, not Springfield (where Garand worked), he's isn't listed as a designer either, they only have similar names because the US was trying to standardize.
Regards: 172.242.108.122 ( talk) 23:48, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
(Undid revision 810426678 by Anmccaff (talk) as a Canadian it pains me, but if he spent most of his life working in U.S., this is xs emphasis on Canada)
@
Trekphiler:, Garand was known for his French-Canadian origin by everyone who heard him open his mouth to speak. Yes, perhaps this might be slightly too much emphasis, but note it was in response to someone removing the "American" part.
Anmccaff (
talk)
20:02, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
Here the IP changes "Canadian-American" to "Canadian born", and here ""Canadian-American " to "Canadian". Anmccaff ( talk) 20:09, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
I think that this discussion is inherently extraneous. He was born in internationally recognized, sovereign country of Canada, of which French Canada is a part of, and moved to the US and he eventually became a naturalized US citizen, anybody else would be called a Canadian-American and the only pointless bickering over a meager scrap of national pride would make anybody say any different.-- WraithWyvern ( talk) 05:54, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
An IP editor has recently raised the point that Canadian nationals were primarily seen as British subjects at the time of Garand’s birth, with only one intermediate step of several changes to Canadian citizenship occurring before he became a US citizen. It’s a narrow point, but there is something to it, and the article may need some tweaking to capture this. Qwirkle ( talk) 22:50, 31 May 2020 (UTC)