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It seems to be difficult as whether or not Mumbai should be added as an Air India destination from New York. AI flew JFK-BOM nonstop until 2010, and now offers a same-number (AI 102) service JFK-DEL-BOM via Delhi. However, according to FlightRadar24.com, there are occasionally plane changes at Delhi from 777-300ER to another 777-300ER or even the occasional 747 or 777-200. Should Mumbai be kept as a destination as the physical plane used from JFK sometimes does not continue to Mumbai?
For example, SQ 25 JFK-FRA-SIN must be on the same plane as SQ does not have any other aircraft available at FRA. AI has tons of aircraft at Delhi as that is their hub, so subs are quite frequent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wallacevio ( talk • contribs) 01:19, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
BOM warrants an inclusion as it is a direct flight with one stop. @ Garretka:, your argument is invalid. [[ bullet #7 is for connecting flights which are through hubs obviously. All direct flights irrespective of the number of stops are listed in every airport, so BOM should be listed as an AI destination. — LeoFrank Talk 15:01, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
NO tracking sites are not WP:RS and even if they were they are WP:PRIMARY and should be used with caution. Overall this particular detail is totally unimportant to an encyclopaedia and probably should not be included. There is considerable danger in being overly pedantic with details such as this - the further you go down the pedantic track the. Closer to WP:NOTTRAVEL such details become. Just saying. Andrewgprout ( talk) 05:20, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Since 24 July, AI102 DEL-BOM and AI101 BOM-DEL has been scheduled on 77L. In https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AIC102, future upcoming flights also put DEL-BOM-DEL as 77L. The source in the article is outdated, does not includes such routes like IAD-DEL. Would it be wise to remove BOM from the destinations list then? -- 24.115.196.200 ( talk) 21:31, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello, your input would be appreciated at this RfC about how we should give references for the "Airlines and destinations" tables of articles about airports. Thank you. — Sunnya343✈ ( háblame • my work) 11:52, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
17 July 1996 TWA 800 in which 230 perished should be included in this list and was omitted. sources: Aviation Safety Network Report 7/17/1996, TWA 800 Wiki Page. 2 September 1998 Swissair Flight 111 ,229 perished, 31 October 1999 EgyptAir Flight 990, 217 perished. Same sources mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:581:8501:870E:304C:CD3D:3958:6A95 ( talk) 14:00, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
I think the direct destination which Qantas flies to should be Sydney, and not Brisbane. Even through it switches plane, the flight number remains the same for both legs between JFK to LAX and LAX to SYD. However, while the same aircraft is used for JFK to LAX and LAX to BNE, the flight number changes, meaning they are different flights that happen to use the same aircraft. If you look at the Sydney Airport website, it lists New York JFK as a direct destination from it AND the New York JFK website lists Sydney as a direct destination from it. Thanks. -- Agent5514 ( talk) 07:36, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
No WOW air-KEF on the listing ?-- Bouzinac ( talk) 20:55, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
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Since the History section is mostly about the airport before 1963, it seems confusing that the "JFK" abbreviation is used throughout to refer to the airport. — Gordon P. Hemsley→ ✉ 15:12, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
I've reverted the addition of the timetables again, mainly as the references given are dynamic links, meaning they keep changing and will likely quickly go out of date with the content. If you can find static content that actually confirms the destinations (rather than ever-changing timetables), then I'll be more inclined to allow these to be added. Mdann52 ( talk) 13:28, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
I just removed the pop culture section
The New York City John F. Kennedy International Airport appears in the 2007
Dreamworks Animation film
Bee Movie and also appeared in the 2013
Disney film
Planes.
It's unsourced so violates WP:V, and also, these are both animations where JFK was a minor setting, not the main topic or setting of the work. epicgenius ( talk) 00:35, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
The continued listing of Brisbane as the Qantas destination in the destinations table is very unhelpful. Nowhere does Qantas, JFK or Brisbane Airport mention this link. The flight number of QF11/12 is to suggest it is a continuation from Sydney, which is supported by Qantas, JFK and Sydney Airport information. The page really should either list Sydney or omit the information altogether and simply have a note of the fact the flight number suggests it is a flight to Sydney but the plane usually returns to Brisbane. It is also important to note that at least once a week the plane actually does come from Sydney. Lala295 ( talk) 06:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)Lala295
Per WP destinations criteria, destinations should only be included if BOTH the aircraft and flight number are the same. Even though QF operate the B74E from LAX-SYD on Tuesdays, it is different than the one operating JFK-LAX, per [ link]. While I agree something needs to be done about this soon, for the time being I have kept Brisbane in the table as psychologically speaking, same aircraft/different flight number is more seamless than same flight no. and different aircraft. Qantas does sometimes depart the LAX-SYD flight on time even if the JFK-LAX flight is delayed and arrives afterwards. -- Irehdna ( talk) 14:07, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Qantas flies from JFK to SYD now, instead of JFK - BNE. On the Qantas website, the flight from JFK - SYD (QF12) is displayed as one flight, with a stop, but still the same flight, while JFK - BNE (QF12, QF 16) is displayed as two flights, still with one stop. -- Oemvee ( talk) 20:50, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
We must trim this beast down! The body text and infobox don't even appear on the first screen on smaller monitors. It's ridiculous. We don't need to call out Laguardia and Newark specifically, we can point the reader to Aviation in the New York metropolitan area. And the more obscure stuff like a Bolivian airport that hasn't had the name in decades (and never really used it, to the point where it isn't even mentioned in that article's lead) does not need to be in the hatnote. oknazevad ( talk) 00:14, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
The Library of Congress has a number of public domain collections that might be useful illustrating the history of the airport. In particular, the NY World-Telegram had photos that it took at the airport that (unlike UPI photos) actually would have been donated into the public domain. The Korb Collection also has architecture photos. http://www.loc.gov/pictures/search/?q=%20Airport%20Idlewild KevinCuddeback ( talk) 22:51, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Changed the shorthand name "Houston-Intercontinental" to "Houston-Bush" in the listing of destinations, because that Houston airport's official name was changed several years ago to George Bush Intercontinental Airport" and the shorter "Houston-Bush" is the most common shorthand name used now.
--- Depends on your politics. Some people still call it "Washington National" and "Houston Intercontinental". Stoneriver2 ( talk) 14:06, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
When looking at the "Airlines and destinations" table in all airport articles, cities with multiple airports are typically written as City–Airport Name (e.g., Paris–Charles de Gaulle, Milan–Malpensa, Chicago–O'Hare). This makes sense. What I do not see is the three-letter airport code. If Paris is Paris–Charles de Gaulle and not Paris–CDG, why isn't this airport New York–Kennedy in the airline table? Flights are also listed as "New York–Kennedy" when the three-letter code is not used (e.g., "Los Angeles, CA, to New York–Kennedy, NY"). Thoughts? -- Precision123 ( talk) 02:36, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
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It seems to be difficult as whether or not Mumbai should be added as an Air India destination from New York. AI flew JFK-BOM nonstop until 2010, and now offers a same-number (AI 102) service JFK-DEL-BOM via Delhi. However, according to FlightRadar24.com, there are occasionally plane changes at Delhi from 777-300ER to another 777-300ER or even the occasional 747 or 777-200. Should Mumbai be kept as a destination as the physical plane used from JFK sometimes does not continue to Mumbai?
For example, SQ 25 JFK-FRA-SIN must be on the same plane as SQ does not have any other aircraft available at FRA. AI has tons of aircraft at Delhi as that is their hub, so subs are quite frequent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wallacevio ( talk • contribs) 01:19, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
BOM warrants an inclusion as it is a direct flight with one stop. @ Garretka:, your argument is invalid. [[ bullet #7 is for connecting flights which are through hubs obviously. All direct flights irrespective of the number of stops are listed in every airport, so BOM should be listed as an AI destination. — LeoFrank Talk 15:01, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
NO tracking sites are not WP:RS and even if they were they are WP:PRIMARY and should be used with caution. Overall this particular detail is totally unimportant to an encyclopaedia and probably should not be included. There is considerable danger in being overly pedantic with details such as this - the further you go down the pedantic track the. Closer to WP:NOTTRAVEL such details become. Just saying. Andrewgprout ( talk) 05:20, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Since 24 July, AI102 DEL-BOM and AI101 BOM-DEL has been scheduled on 77L. In https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AIC102, future upcoming flights also put DEL-BOM-DEL as 77L. The source in the article is outdated, does not includes such routes like IAD-DEL. Would it be wise to remove BOM from the destinations list then? -- 24.115.196.200 ( talk) 21:31, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello, your input would be appreciated at this RfC about how we should give references for the "Airlines and destinations" tables of articles about airports. Thank you. — Sunnya343✈ ( háblame • my work) 11:52, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
17 July 1996 TWA 800 in which 230 perished should be included in this list and was omitted. sources: Aviation Safety Network Report 7/17/1996, TWA 800 Wiki Page. 2 September 1998 Swissair Flight 111 ,229 perished, 31 October 1999 EgyptAir Flight 990, 217 perished. Same sources mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:581:8501:870E:304C:CD3D:3958:6A95 ( talk) 14:00, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
I think the direct destination which Qantas flies to should be Sydney, and not Brisbane. Even through it switches plane, the flight number remains the same for both legs between JFK to LAX and LAX to SYD. However, while the same aircraft is used for JFK to LAX and LAX to BNE, the flight number changes, meaning they are different flights that happen to use the same aircraft. If you look at the Sydney Airport website, it lists New York JFK as a direct destination from it AND the New York JFK website lists Sydney as a direct destination from it. Thanks. -- Agent5514 ( talk) 07:36, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
No WOW air-KEF on the listing ?-- Bouzinac ( talk) 20:55, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
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Since the History section is mostly about the airport before 1963, it seems confusing that the "JFK" abbreviation is used throughout to refer to the airport. — Gordon P. Hemsley→ ✉ 15:12, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
I've reverted the addition of the timetables again, mainly as the references given are dynamic links, meaning they keep changing and will likely quickly go out of date with the content. If you can find static content that actually confirms the destinations (rather than ever-changing timetables), then I'll be more inclined to allow these to be added. Mdann52 ( talk) 13:28, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
I just removed the pop culture section
The New York City John F. Kennedy International Airport appears in the 2007
Dreamworks Animation film
Bee Movie and also appeared in the 2013
Disney film
Planes.
It's unsourced so violates WP:V, and also, these are both animations where JFK was a minor setting, not the main topic or setting of the work. epicgenius ( talk) 00:35, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
The continued listing of Brisbane as the Qantas destination in the destinations table is very unhelpful. Nowhere does Qantas, JFK or Brisbane Airport mention this link. The flight number of QF11/12 is to suggest it is a continuation from Sydney, which is supported by Qantas, JFK and Sydney Airport information. The page really should either list Sydney or omit the information altogether and simply have a note of the fact the flight number suggests it is a flight to Sydney but the plane usually returns to Brisbane. It is also important to note that at least once a week the plane actually does come from Sydney. Lala295 ( talk) 06:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)Lala295
Per WP destinations criteria, destinations should only be included if BOTH the aircraft and flight number are the same. Even though QF operate the B74E from LAX-SYD on Tuesdays, it is different than the one operating JFK-LAX, per [ link]. While I agree something needs to be done about this soon, for the time being I have kept Brisbane in the table as psychologically speaking, same aircraft/different flight number is more seamless than same flight no. and different aircraft. Qantas does sometimes depart the LAX-SYD flight on time even if the JFK-LAX flight is delayed and arrives afterwards. -- Irehdna ( talk) 14:07, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Qantas flies from JFK to SYD now, instead of JFK - BNE. On the Qantas website, the flight from JFK - SYD (QF12) is displayed as one flight, with a stop, but still the same flight, while JFK - BNE (QF12, QF 16) is displayed as two flights, still with one stop. -- Oemvee ( talk) 20:50, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
We must trim this beast down! The body text and infobox don't even appear on the first screen on smaller monitors. It's ridiculous. We don't need to call out Laguardia and Newark specifically, we can point the reader to Aviation in the New York metropolitan area. And the more obscure stuff like a Bolivian airport that hasn't had the name in decades (and never really used it, to the point where it isn't even mentioned in that article's lead) does not need to be in the hatnote. oknazevad ( talk) 00:14, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
The Library of Congress has a number of public domain collections that might be useful illustrating the history of the airport. In particular, the NY World-Telegram had photos that it took at the airport that (unlike UPI photos) actually would have been donated into the public domain. The Korb Collection also has architecture photos. http://www.loc.gov/pictures/search/?q=%20Airport%20Idlewild KevinCuddeback ( talk) 22:51, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Changed the shorthand name "Houston-Intercontinental" to "Houston-Bush" in the listing of destinations, because that Houston airport's official name was changed several years ago to George Bush Intercontinental Airport" and the shorter "Houston-Bush" is the most common shorthand name used now.
--- Depends on your politics. Some people still call it "Washington National" and "Houston Intercontinental". Stoneriver2 ( talk) 14:06, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
When looking at the "Airlines and destinations" table in all airport articles, cities with multiple airports are typically written as City–Airport Name (e.g., Paris–Charles de Gaulle, Milan–Malpensa, Chicago–O'Hare). This makes sense. What I do not see is the three-letter airport code. If Paris is Paris–Charles de Gaulle and not Paris–CDG, why isn't this airport New York–Kennedy in the airline table? Flights are also listed as "New York–Kennedy" when the three-letter code is not used (e.g., "Los Angeles, CA, to New York–Kennedy, NY"). Thoughts? -- Precision123 ( talk) 02:36, 29 April 2021 (UTC)