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I don't think Judge Carter ruled that Eastman "was likely to have 'dishonestly conspired to obstruct'" ... that wasn't the matter before the court, so the court couldn't have ruled on it. Judge Carter, in a ruling on another matter, opined that Eastman "was likely to have 'dishonestly conspired to obstruct'".
118.161.250.117 ( talk) 08:49, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Definition of treason: "the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government." Is it yet appropriate to start characterizing things properly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrpotts ( talk • contribs) 01:56, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Basic information to add to this article: in which city/state Eastman lives. It's Orange, California, isn't it? Or did he relocate to Santa Fe, New Mexico in the summer of 2022? 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 00:03, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Yes, today's indictment is interesting. However, it is still an accusation that he has not yet been convicted of. As such, we're in WP:BLPCRIME territory. I don't think we can skip mentioning the indictment altogether, but there was an attempt to add it to the first sentence, which goes beyond reasonable consideration, and I have undone. The indictment is not what made him notable, it couldn't be, he was notable well before tonight. And in the longer run, it clearly will not be what this article hangs on, because either he is convicted, in which case the conviction itself may be key to the article, or he is not convicted, in which case the indictment didn't mean that much. -- Nat Gertler ( talk) 06:11, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
Time to add that he was INDICTED in Georgia. Also, I agree the fact that he was a board member of the Federalist Society is highly relevant to understand him and his place in history. 47.155.4.162 ( talk) 12:31, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
We have the subject listed as chairman of the board of the National Organization for Marriage, a role he took on in 2011. He was listed in that role on a leadership page of the website that was up into March of 2023, but which disappeared by May. There was a site redesign that the Wayback Machine detected in April, and a new page which omits mention of Eastman (or any other name as chairman), a status that continues to this day, although the numbers of leaders listed has been reduced from three to two. This does not necessarily mean that he left the position, and I am not advocating any change in the article at this time, but rather suggesting that we keep an eye open in regards to the possibility. -- Nat Gertler ( talk) 14:05, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
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I don't think Judge Carter ruled that Eastman "was likely to have 'dishonestly conspired to obstruct'" ... that wasn't the matter before the court, so the court couldn't have ruled on it. Judge Carter, in a ruling on another matter, opined that Eastman "was likely to have 'dishonestly conspired to obstruct'".
118.161.250.117 ( talk) 08:49, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Definition of treason: "the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government." Is it yet appropriate to start characterizing things properly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrpotts ( talk • contribs) 01:56, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
Basic information to add to this article: in which city/state Eastman lives. It's Orange, California, isn't it? Or did he relocate to Santa Fe, New Mexico in the summer of 2022? 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 00:03, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Yes, today's indictment is interesting. However, it is still an accusation that he has not yet been convicted of. As such, we're in WP:BLPCRIME territory. I don't think we can skip mentioning the indictment altogether, but there was an attempt to add it to the first sentence, which goes beyond reasonable consideration, and I have undone. The indictment is not what made him notable, it couldn't be, he was notable well before tonight. And in the longer run, it clearly will not be what this article hangs on, because either he is convicted, in which case the conviction itself may be key to the article, or he is not convicted, in which case the indictment didn't mean that much. -- Nat Gertler ( talk) 06:11, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
Time to add that he was INDICTED in Georgia. Also, I agree the fact that he was a board member of the Federalist Society is highly relevant to understand him and his place in history. 47.155.4.162 ( talk) 12:31, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
We have the subject listed as chairman of the board of the National Organization for Marriage, a role he took on in 2011. He was listed in that role on a leadership page of the website that was up into March of 2023, but which disappeared by May. There was a site redesign that the Wayback Machine detected in April, and a new page which omits mention of Eastman (or any other name as chairman), a status that continues to this day, although the numbers of leaders listed has been reduced from three to two. This does not necessarily mean that he left the position, and I am not advocating any change in the article at this time, but rather suggesting that we keep an eye open in regards to the possibility. -- Nat Gertler ( talk) 14:05, 15 August 2023 (UTC)