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I have completely revised, rewritten and extended the entry for John Crosfield, my father, based on his own writings, letters and personal information. As Executor to my father's Will, I also have access to all his personal documents, including birth, marriage and death certificates, letters of appointment by employers, membership certificates and much correspondence. My three siblings and three former managers of Crosfield Electronics (Mr Jim Salmon, former Managing Director CEL, Lars Janneryd, former Deputy Managing Director CEL and mr Victor Parsons, former Managing Director Crosfield Business Machines) have reviewed the entry and given their written approval. Richard crosfield ( talk) 09:16, 7 September 2012 (UTC)Richard crosfield
3O Request: Hello! I'm responding to the third opinion request as an uninvolved editor. My role is to assist in resolving the dispute. The third opinion process is informal and nonbinding. @Richard. Thank you for your interest in contributing to this article, and your hard work on expanding it. The use of the
primary source, the autobiography, is perfectly fine and within policy as long as it's not used to assert a claim that could be interpreted as
controversial or not neutral. The use of unpublished sources is not encouraged, like personal letters, because unpublished sources are difficult for
other editors to verify. Unpublished sources cannot be checked by other editors for factual accuracy, inviting the temptation for abuse, which is why
Wikipedia is not a publisher of original research. I believe that your edits have been made in good faith, but the article should be restricted to
published sources.--
SGCM
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22:09, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks to those contributors who have added the table of contents etcetera to this entry, and who have brought Wikipedia guidelines to my attention. 1) I have removed the 3 letters cited in the text. 2) I have replaced ibid with reference titles. 3) Copies of The Crosfield Family, The Cadbury Family and Recollections are available at the 6 Deposit Libraries in the UK and Ireland in accordance with the legislation ruling at publication date plus Friends Library, Friends House, Euston Rd. London. The original stub cited an entry in the Old Leightonian written by one Richard Crosfield (the Editor asked me to write it). The first addition to the stub cited an obituary submitted by Jim Salmon (a former colleague of Crosfield), who sent it previously to me for my comments. The Wikipedia stub was brought to my attention by a relative, who suggested I do what the stub requested - improve the entry. As I have no interest in continuing this debate, I would suggest that you remove the entire entry or change it to suit your requirements. In any event, I would suggest that you remove the disfiguring 'badge of shame', which can only reflect badly on Wikipedia and with which I would rather not be associated. Richard crosfield ( talk) 11:02, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Someone has changed the references, many of which have been lost. Why? Can they be recuperated? Thanks Richard crosfield ( talk) 07:39, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
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I have completely revised, rewritten and extended the entry for John Crosfield, my father, based on his own writings, letters and personal information. As Executor to my father's Will, I also have access to all his personal documents, including birth, marriage and death certificates, letters of appointment by employers, membership certificates and much correspondence. My three siblings and three former managers of Crosfield Electronics (Mr Jim Salmon, former Managing Director CEL, Lars Janneryd, former Deputy Managing Director CEL and mr Victor Parsons, former Managing Director Crosfield Business Machines) have reviewed the entry and given their written approval. Richard crosfield ( talk) 09:16, 7 September 2012 (UTC)Richard crosfield
3O Request: Hello! I'm responding to the third opinion request as an uninvolved editor. My role is to assist in resolving the dispute. The third opinion process is informal and nonbinding. @Richard. Thank you for your interest in contributing to this article, and your hard work on expanding it. The use of the
primary source, the autobiography, is perfectly fine and within policy as long as it's not used to assert a claim that could be interpreted as
controversial or not neutral. The use of unpublished sources is not encouraged, like personal letters, because unpublished sources are difficult for
other editors to verify. Unpublished sources cannot be checked by other editors for factual accuracy, inviting the temptation for abuse, which is why
Wikipedia is not a publisher of original research. I believe that your edits have been made in good faith, but the article should be restricted to
published sources.--
SGCM
(talk)
22:09, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks to those contributors who have added the table of contents etcetera to this entry, and who have brought Wikipedia guidelines to my attention. 1) I have removed the 3 letters cited in the text. 2) I have replaced ibid with reference titles. 3) Copies of The Crosfield Family, The Cadbury Family and Recollections are available at the 6 Deposit Libraries in the UK and Ireland in accordance with the legislation ruling at publication date plus Friends Library, Friends House, Euston Rd. London. The original stub cited an entry in the Old Leightonian written by one Richard Crosfield (the Editor asked me to write it). The first addition to the stub cited an obituary submitted by Jim Salmon (a former colleague of Crosfield), who sent it previously to me for my comments. The Wikipedia stub was brought to my attention by a relative, who suggested I do what the stub requested - improve the entry. As I have no interest in continuing this debate, I would suggest that you remove the entire entry or change it to suit your requirements. In any event, I would suggest that you remove the disfiguring 'badge of shame', which can only reflect badly on Wikipedia and with which I would rather not be associated. Richard crosfield ( talk) 11:02, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Someone has changed the references, many of which have been lost. Why? Can they be recuperated? Thanks Richard crosfield ( talk) 07:39, 25 September 2012 (UTC)