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Requested move 3 July 2020
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Weak Oppose. The name "Royalist" specifically identifies a supporter of Charles I, as opposed to a supporter of monarchy in general, and the uncapitalized form may be confusing. Supporters of Cromwell currently use (Parliamentarian) as a disambiguator (eg
John Rolle (Parliamentarian)) - changing this to (parliamentarian) would just suggest, to the casual reader, that the person in question was a member of parliament, rather than indicating a specific affiliation. I would argue that, for articles within the same general topic, consistency is desirable (so, "royalist" and "parliamentarian" or "Royalist" and "Parliamentarian", not one lower-case and the other upper-case). Compare "republican" (a supporter of republican government in general) and "Republican" (a member of the Republican Party, or a supporter of Irish Republicanism).
Tevildo (
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17:50, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
There are also seven articles disambiguated with (Cavalier) and thirty disambiguated with (Roundhead), but they're probably outside of the scope of this discussion.
Thomas Strickland (cavalier) is the only (cavalier) disambiguator, and no articles are disambiguated with (roundhead).
Tevildo (
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17:49, 5 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose. In this case, "Royalist" is the conventional name of a faction. It is not a mere descriptor of the individual's politics. It is more akin to Republican or Liberal after a name. There may be a better method of disambiguation, however.
Srnec (
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23:36, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Agree with
Srnec. The faction is described in literature with a cap 'R'. You could possibly use 'Cavalier', though that was the opposition description.
Neils51 (
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13:12, 5 July 2020 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Requested move 3 July 2020
The following is a closed discussion of a
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Weak Oppose. The name "Royalist" specifically identifies a supporter of Charles I, as opposed to a supporter of monarchy in general, and the uncapitalized form may be confusing. Supporters of Cromwell currently use (Parliamentarian) as a disambiguator (eg
John Rolle (Parliamentarian)) - changing this to (parliamentarian) would just suggest, to the casual reader, that the person in question was a member of parliament, rather than indicating a specific affiliation. I would argue that, for articles within the same general topic, consistency is desirable (so, "royalist" and "parliamentarian" or "Royalist" and "Parliamentarian", not one lower-case and the other upper-case). Compare "republican" (a supporter of republican government in general) and "Republican" (a member of the Republican Party, or a supporter of Irish Republicanism).
Tevildo (
talk)
17:50, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
There are also seven articles disambiguated with (Cavalier) and thirty disambiguated with (Roundhead), but they're probably outside of the scope of this discussion.
Thomas Strickland (cavalier) is the only (cavalier) disambiguator, and no articles are disambiguated with (roundhead).
Tevildo (
talk)
17:49, 5 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose. In this case, "Royalist" is the conventional name of a faction. It is not a mere descriptor of the individual's politics. It is more akin to Republican or Liberal after a name. There may be a better method of disambiguation, however.
Srnec (
talk)
23:36, 3 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Agree with
Srnec. The faction is described in literature with a cap 'R'. You could possibly use 'Cavalier', though that was the opposition description.
Neils51 (
talk)
13:12, 5 July 2020 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.