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The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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The result of the move request was: Moved. An error (mine) prevented the uncontroversial technical request to move this page. I am correcting it now. See general discussion below. --
John Cline (
talk) 21:38, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
207.161.86.162 (
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23:19, 10 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Disambiguating with "dean" would be like using "president" as a disambiguator for a president of a corporation. It's part of a job title that can be used for numerous purposes, so one can be, e.g., dean of a faculty of a university, dean of a diplomatic corps, dean of a seminary, dean of a cathedral,
rural/area dean, etc. On its own, "dean" is basically meaningless. As
WP:BISHOP indicates, we don't tend to disambiguate using part of a job title (like "archbishop", as opposed to "bishop" which refers to an
order of ministry).
For Anglican and Latin Catholic clergy, typically we disambiguate with the relevant
order of ministry – bishop, priest, or deacon. When that is insufficiently precise, we either add the subject's nationality or denomination (e.g., "American priest", "Anglican priest") or we substitute their office (e.g., "dean of Canterbury", "archbishop of York"). (The latter is always done in the case of bishops, but not necessarily in the case of priests and deacons.)
I'm sorry, somehow I missed seeing
John Clarke (dean of Wells) on the disambiguation page. That's why I said: "I don't see another John Clarke who also happens to de a dean." Let me close this RM, and I'll move the page for you according to your original request.--
John Cline (
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21:08, 10 October 2021 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved. An error (mine) prevented the uncontroversial technical request to move this page. I am correcting it now. See general discussion below. --
John Cline (
talk) 21:38, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
207.161.86.162 (
talk)
23:19, 10 October 2021 (UTC)reply
Disambiguating with "dean" would be like using "president" as a disambiguator for a president of a corporation. It's part of a job title that can be used for numerous purposes, so one can be, e.g., dean of a faculty of a university, dean of a diplomatic corps, dean of a seminary, dean of a cathedral,
rural/area dean, etc. On its own, "dean" is basically meaningless. As
WP:BISHOP indicates, we don't tend to disambiguate using part of a job title (like "archbishop", as opposed to "bishop" which refers to an
order of ministry).
For Anglican and Latin Catholic clergy, typically we disambiguate with the relevant
order of ministry – bishop, priest, or deacon. When that is insufficiently precise, we either add the subject's nationality or denomination (e.g., "American priest", "Anglican priest") or we substitute their office (e.g., "dean of Canterbury", "archbishop of York"). (The latter is always done in the case of bishops, but not necessarily in the case of priests and deacons.)
I'm sorry, somehow I missed seeing
John Clarke (dean of Wells) on the disambiguation page. That's why I said: "I don't see another John Clarke who also happens to de a dean." Let me close this RM, and I'll move the page for you according to your original request.--
John Cline (
talk)
21:08, 10 October 2021 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.