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This page as nomianted for Votes for deletion and was voted to keep by a 9 vote majority. An archived discussion may be found here. -- Oldak Quill 20:36, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
This page was created as an experiment. I was wondering if it would be possible to have a decent article on every single Bible verse, so I picked one at random and wrote and article on it. Unfortunately the one picked seems to be of an above average notability. In retrospect a better test would be to find the single most uninteresting verse and try to do an article on it. I do think that this page shows that there is a possibility for such a detailed annotation project. Each verse has centuries of interpretation, debates over translation, and uses outside the Bible. In most cases enough material for a good article. - SimonP 02:45, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC)
I want to say that I strongly support the idea to create an article on every Bible verse. I'm not too knowledgeable about theology and such, but I think it is very important that we as a project recognize the encyclopedic nature of content such as this. Everyking 15:32, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
It looks pretty unlikely that this will win consensus for deletion, so some thought should go into the issue of whether these articles should be merged, with perhaps an article per chapter rather than an article per verse. Divisions by sub-chapter are also common, though there are many such systems and picking one would be difficult.
The main advantages of giving each verse its own article is that it allows easy linking, it would be useful if every time John 20:16 was mentioned a user could click through to a detailed article on the verse. Length is also an issue, if as it seems a five hundred word article on each verse is possible then an article on a 30 verse chapter would be quite bulky. The third concern is that of copyright. The newer versions of the Bible are copyrighted, and those copyrights are enforced. Quoting a single verse at a time is certainly fair use, but adding longer chunks of the text may get us into trouble.
The advantages of larger group of text is that there will be less repetition as every verse does not need its context and setting explained. Issues with some verses also affect neighbouring ones, e.g. both John 20:16 and John 20:17 seem to contradict Mark 28:9. With the current set up these issues are discussed separately, if there was an article on the whole chapter all of the contradictions could be brought up in one place. There is also the issue of whether it is possible to write a decent article on every verse. John 20:16 is of above average notability, and there may very well be verses that would be perennial sub-stubs.
A potential compromise that might work is to have separate articles on each verse of the Pentateuch, Gospels, and Revelations. These are by far the most quoted and analyzed and there is a truly vast body of analysis and literature about them. The other books would be subdivided by chapter. Each verse will have also have a navbox at the bottom so that readers can easily read through the articles in the order in which they are presented in the Bible. - SimonP 17:59, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC)
I would vote for deletion - while a noble cause, and one worthy perhaps of writing a book on, it could become hopelessly POV and is not a topic for an encyclopedia (try Wikibooks, I believe there is a book on the Bible already?) -- Mark Lewis 18:01, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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This page as nomianted for Votes for deletion and was voted to keep by a 9 vote majority. An archived discussion may be found here. -- Oldak Quill 20:36, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
This page was created as an experiment. I was wondering if it would be possible to have a decent article on every single Bible verse, so I picked one at random and wrote and article on it. Unfortunately the one picked seems to be of an above average notability. In retrospect a better test would be to find the single most uninteresting verse and try to do an article on it. I do think that this page shows that there is a possibility for such a detailed annotation project. Each verse has centuries of interpretation, debates over translation, and uses outside the Bible. In most cases enough material for a good article. - SimonP 02:45, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC)
I want to say that I strongly support the idea to create an article on every Bible verse. I'm not too knowledgeable about theology and such, but I think it is very important that we as a project recognize the encyclopedic nature of content such as this. Everyking 15:32, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
It looks pretty unlikely that this will win consensus for deletion, so some thought should go into the issue of whether these articles should be merged, with perhaps an article per chapter rather than an article per verse. Divisions by sub-chapter are also common, though there are many such systems and picking one would be difficult.
The main advantages of giving each verse its own article is that it allows easy linking, it would be useful if every time John 20:16 was mentioned a user could click through to a detailed article on the verse. Length is also an issue, if as it seems a five hundred word article on each verse is possible then an article on a 30 verse chapter would be quite bulky. The third concern is that of copyright. The newer versions of the Bible are copyrighted, and those copyrights are enforced. Quoting a single verse at a time is certainly fair use, but adding longer chunks of the text may get us into trouble.
The advantages of larger group of text is that there will be less repetition as every verse does not need its context and setting explained. Issues with some verses also affect neighbouring ones, e.g. both John 20:16 and John 20:17 seem to contradict Mark 28:9. With the current set up these issues are discussed separately, if there was an article on the whole chapter all of the contradictions could be brought up in one place. There is also the issue of whether it is possible to write a decent article on every verse. John 20:16 is of above average notability, and there may very well be verses that would be perennial sub-stubs.
A potential compromise that might work is to have separate articles on each verse of the Pentateuch, Gospels, and Revelations. These are by far the most quoted and analyzed and there is a truly vast body of analysis and literature about them. The other books would be subdivided by chapter. Each verse will have also have a navbox at the bottom so that readers can easily read through the articles in the order in which they are presented in the Bible. - SimonP 17:59, Feb 5, 2005 (UTC)
I would vote for deletion - while a noble cause, and one worthy perhaps of writing a book on, it could become hopelessly POV and is not a topic for an encyclopedia (try Wikibooks, I believe there is a book on the Bible already?) -- Mark Lewis 18:01, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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