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I have changed "stubbed out" to "poked" in the cigar incident. The reference says "stubbed a cigar", http://www.carling.com/football/manchester-city-fc/joey-barton.html says "poked" and http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=BLOGDETAIL&grid=P30&blog=yourview&xml=/sport/2006/02/02/uviewbarton.xml says "pushed".
I've also expanded on his sendings off, and removed "but hardly featured for the rest of the season, being injured or putting in below par performances as the club slipped from 8th to 15th" after the sentence on him signing a new contract in 2006. Joey only missed 7 league games in 2005-06; only David James and Darius Vassell played more. Chorleypie 21:07, 1 October 2006 (BST)
---I find the following statement,"He had two red cards in his first 120 games, both for two yellow cards" to be a little, well, odd. I don't see the significance of two reds in his first 120 games, neither were straight reds. I'm not saying he is innocent (in fact I know very little about Barton) but a breakdown of the yellows he has received would be a better representation of his on-field behaviour. Crx2gen 05:23, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
How about putting in a "Controversy" section to separate his footballing success to his controversies (mainly) off the field? Also more can be added such as his criticism of Gerrard and Lampard. 13:44, 05 February 2007 (BST)
Thought you could update : I read this morning that he is going out with Emma Walsh, a make-up artist from Ireland, for a while and she is 5 months pregnant now and there both very happy.. 83.70.41.162 15:20, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone else think it's a bit unfair that all his "Personal Life" section discusses is his brother's murder conviction? I'm sure there's more to his personal life than just this. I should think that either more information should be added that actually relates to Joey Barton's personal life or the header should be renamed to something along the lines of "Family Issues" or "Brother's Murder Trial". Just a thought. Cricketseven 18:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree that it is unfair to discuss his half-brothers murder conviction. I think the most that should be stated is "Joey Barton is the half-brother of convicted murderer Michael Barton" Anybody who wishes to read further can click the internal link.
I personally think that this should be included as a well publicised (at least in the UK) and, presumably, a significant part of his personal life. I changed the wording slightly so that it mentioned the name of the murder victim and included the fact that the murder was deemed to be racially motivated. I added the name because, again, the victim was very well publicised (in the UK) as was the nature of the crime - so I'd personally consider these to be relevant, and of interest to the reader. Would be good to hear what others think. Ghost Yacht 18:44, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Please add details of his prison term <url> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7409943.stm</url> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.16.176.79 ( talk) 12:09, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Overall this section feels like it was written by his PR team. Not an unbiased account of his personal life. El dude brother2 ( talk) 19:08, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
It's a very well written article, I just have a few small things to be addressed, some maybe personal preference so tell me if any of these go into that sort of area, cheers:
As for future plans for the article if your planning for an FA with this, then there are a few things I could recommend:
Remember, that those three things you don't need to address for this GA review but rather suggestions for future improvement.
Anyway, for now I'll be keeping this article on hold until the points have been addressed, thanks. -- Phill talk Edits Review this GA review! 10:59, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
[1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sir-Nobby ( talk • contribs) 21:11, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I would like to put the images in this article in another languege article about Barton. Since the images belong to to English wikipedia, I still can't do that. Can the authors of these images upload them to wikimedia commons so that I could use them myself? Thanks, YemeniteCamel ( talk) 08:43, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Is it 6 months in prison, or is he just currently in jail? CorleoneSerpicoMontana ( talk) 12:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
This article needs to be protected; it's a big target for vandals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.56.204 ( talk) 13:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I think it is appropriate to prefix Joey Barton with the adjective "disgraced", given his recent spell in prison for assault and affray, not to speak of his history of disciplinary problems —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mirrorballman ( talk • contribs) 22:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Agreed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.108.160.130 ( talk) 12:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Certainly he's as famous for being a convicted, violent criminal as a football player.-- 77.255.118.165 ( talk) 11:21, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
I see the article is recording Joey as "DEAD" ??????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.212.124.34 ( talk) 11:03, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards,-- Jackyd101 ( talk) 19:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
The lead has become unruly. Some of the third paragraph of the lead should be in the "Personal life" section keeping the lead a summary. WP:LEAD might help. Thought I would get some feedback here first since he is a controversial figure and this article made it to GA. Cptnono ( talk) 01:44, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
This article has surely got to be a candidate for Featured Article status, or at least be given the slight bit of work it needs for the final push in to making it FA. It is well-written, well-referenced and has a good number of photos. Professor Toon ( talk) 19:37, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
The table listing club appearances doesn't tally:
Grutness... wha? 12:45, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Joey Barton's new squad number is 6, as per Marseille's homepage http://www.om.net/en/Teams/201002/Effectif_pro/1815/Barton — Preceding unsigned comment added by Escollay ( talk • contribs) 15:51, 13 September 2012 (UTC) ** Done JMHamo 20:52, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
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RenandaFilip ( talk) 09:57, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
I think that the following sentences may have been mistakenly removed in the process of editing the article. If someone could please add them to the "personal life" section once once again, they are relevant and well-referenced.
"Barton is a prominent user of Twitter,[183] with over two million followers as for April 2013. Commenting on figures from Friedrich Nietzsche and George Orwell to Isambard Kingdom Brunel and Morrissey, his eclectic tweets have resulted in him being described by the BBC as "as a philosophical sportsman to rival Eric Cantona in his heyday".[183] Others in the media have criticised this description with Paul Hayward, chief sports writer for The Telegraph writing that Barton "manages to be patronised [by the media] and held up as some kind of exemplar all at once ... he is skilled at tricking us into watching him veer between the extremes of thinker and thug. Either this is a repudiation of societal hypocrisy or, more likely, indicative of a sociopathic tendency."[184] Ellie Mae O'Hagan of The Guardian commented that "the problem, I think, is not the belief that Barton is a reformed character, but the notion that one cannot possibly be a philosopher and violent at the same time: that quoting philosophy should automatically be taken as a sign of reformation ... In my mind, this all boils down to class snobbery. It is automatically assumed that Barton has violent tendencies because he's a working-class man who has chosen to play football for a living. So when he shows signs of intelligence, it's treated as a sign of reform: intellect is the preserve of the gentlemanly middle-classes."[185]
On 3 March 2013, Barton faced an angry backlash from thousands of teenage girls after taunting Canadian teen idol Justin Bieber and his fans on Twitter. He branded the Canadian singer as "a smack addiction waiting to happen".[186] A few weeks later, he caused controversy once more after comparing Brazilian superstar Neymar to Justin Bieber.[187]
On 28 December 2011, Barton became a father. His partner Georgia McNeil gave birth to a baby boy who was named Cassius.[188]"
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During Burnley's defeat against Lincoln City in the 2017 FA Cup Joey Barton claimed contact by Imps' striker Matt Rhead and went down clutching his head. This is the latest incident in a long-standing dispute with Rhead. A replay showed no contact was made and Barton's actions have been condemned by the wider football community particular in light of Barton's 3rd February 2013 tweet where he stated "Players who roll around when nobody touches them should be subsequently banned. I hate cheats. Authorities should address it." [1] PINEAPPLES ( talk) 13:37, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
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Someone's clearly having a laugh about Joey Barton forcing his players to listen to Studio Ghibli soundtracks. This has to be changed pronto. BartonNietzsche ( talk) 14:46, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
There is an extra blank line between the sections on Views and Gambling.
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Barton did not play against Manchester United on the opening day of the 2010-11 season, it was Aston Villa, and he scored in that game as Newcastle won 6-0 at home. 185.98.181.192 ( talk) 14:17, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 ( talk) 15:44, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Joey Barton completed more minutes in prison (110,880) than he played professional football (35,176) minutes. 2A02:A468:19DF:1:45AF:DB49:2235:F9D ( talk) 01:32, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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Listed as a football manager but a hobbist podcast host would be more accurate for last employment 2A02:6B6A:B265:0:A1AA:D068:924E:2019 ( talk) 19:44, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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I have changed "stubbed out" to "poked" in the cigar incident. The reference says "stubbed a cigar", http://www.carling.com/football/manchester-city-fc/joey-barton.html says "poked" and http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=BLOGDETAIL&grid=P30&blog=yourview&xml=/sport/2006/02/02/uviewbarton.xml says "pushed".
I've also expanded on his sendings off, and removed "but hardly featured for the rest of the season, being injured or putting in below par performances as the club slipped from 8th to 15th" after the sentence on him signing a new contract in 2006. Joey only missed 7 league games in 2005-06; only David James and Darius Vassell played more. Chorleypie 21:07, 1 October 2006 (BST)
---I find the following statement,"He had two red cards in his first 120 games, both for two yellow cards" to be a little, well, odd. I don't see the significance of two reds in his first 120 games, neither were straight reds. I'm not saying he is innocent (in fact I know very little about Barton) but a breakdown of the yellows he has received would be a better representation of his on-field behaviour. Crx2gen 05:23, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
How about putting in a "Controversy" section to separate his footballing success to his controversies (mainly) off the field? Also more can be added such as his criticism of Gerrard and Lampard. 13:44, 05 February 2007 (BST)
Thought you could update : I read this morning that he is going out with Emma Walsh, a make-up artist from Ireland, for a while and she is 5 months pregnant now and there both very happy.. 83.70.41.162 15:20, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone else think it's a bit unfair that all his "Personal Life" section discusses is his brother's murder conviction? I'm sure there's more to his personal life than just this. I should think that either more information should be added that actually relates to Joey Barton's personal life or the header should be renamed to something along the lines of "Family Issues" or "Brother's Murder Trial". Just a thought. Cricketseven 18:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree that it is unfair to discuss his half-brothers murder conviction. I think the most that should be stated is "Joey Barton is the half-brother of convicted murderer Michael Barton" Anybody who wishes to read further can click the internal link.
I personally think that this should be included as a well publicised (at least in the UK) and, presumably, a significant part of his personal life. I changed the wording slightly so that it mentioned the name of the murder victim and included the fact that the murder was deemed to be racially motivated. I added the name because, again, the victim was very well publicised (in the UK) as was the nature of the crime - so I'd personally consider these to be relevant, and of interest to the reader. Would be good to hear what others think. Ghost Yacht 18:44, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Please add details of his prison term <url> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7409943.stm</url> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.16.176.79 ( talk) 12:09, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Overall this section feels like it was written by his PR team. Not an unbiased account of his personal life. El dude brother2 ( talk) 19:08, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
It's a very well written article, I just have a few small things to be addressed, some maybe personal preference so tell me if any of these go into that sort of area, cheers:
As for future plans for the article if your planning for an FA with this, then there are a few things I could recommend:
Remember, that those three things you don't need to address for this GA review but rather suggestions for future improvement.
Anyway, for now I'll be keeping this article on hold until the points have been addressed, thanks. -- Phill talk Edits Review this GA review! 10:59, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
[1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sir-Nobby ( talk • contribs) 21:11, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I would like to put the images in this article in another languege article about Barton. Since the images belong to to English wikipedia, I still can't do that. Can the authors of these images upload them to wikimedia commons so that I could use them myself? Thanks, YemeniteCamel ( talk) 08:43, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Is it 6 months in prison, or is he just currently in jail? CorleoneSerpicoMontana ( talk) 12:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
This article needs to be protected; it's a big target for vandals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.56.204 ( talk) 13:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I think it is appropriate to prefix Joey Barton with the adjective "disgraced", given his recent spell in prison for assault and affray, not to speak of his history of disciplinary problems —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mirrorballman ( talk • contribs) 22:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Agreed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.108.160.130 ( talk) 12:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Certainly he's as famous for being a convicted, violent criminal as a football player.-- 77.255.118.165 ( talk) 11:21, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
I see the article is recording Joey as "DEAD" ??????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.212.124.34 ( talk) 11:03, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards,-- Jackyd101 ( talk) 19:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
The lead has become unruly. Some of the third paragraph of the lead should be in the "Personal life" section keeping the lead a summary. WP:LEAD might help. Thought I would get some feedback here first since he is a controversial figure and this article made it to GA. Cptnono ( talk) 01:44, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
This article has surely got to be a candidate for Featured Article status, or at least be given the slight bit of work it needs for the final push in to making it FA. It is well-written, well-referenced and has a good number of photos. Professor Toon ( talk) 19:37, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
The table listing club appearances doesn't tally:
Grutness... wha? 12:45, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Joey Barton's new squad number is 6, as per Marseille's homepage http://www.om.net/en/Teams/201002/Effectif_pro/1815/Barton — Preceding unsigned comment added by Escollay ( talk • contribs) 15:51, 13 September 2012 (UTC) ** Done JMHamo 20:52, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
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RenandaFilip ( talk) 09:57, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
I think that the following sentences may have been mistakenly removed in the process of editing the article. If someone could please add them to the "personal life" section once once again, they are relevant and well-referenced.
"Barton is a prominent user of Twitter,[183] with over two million followers as for April 2013. Commenting on figures from Friedrich Nietzsche and George Orwell to Isambard Kingdom Brunel and Morrissey, his eclectic tweets have resulted in him being described by the BBC as "as a philosophical sportsman to rival Eric Cantona in his heyday".[183] Others in the media have criticised this description with Paul Hayward, chief sports writer for The Telegraph writing that Barton "manages to be patronised [by the media] and held up as some kind of exemplar all at once ... he is skilled at tricking us into watching him veer between the extremes of thinker and thug. Either this is a repudiation of societal hypocrisy or, more likely, indicative of a sociopathic tendency."[184] Ellie Mae O'Hagan of The Guardian commented that "the problem, I think, is not the belief that Barton is a reformed character, but the notion that one cannot possibly be a philosopher and violent at the same time: that quoting philosophy should automatically be taken as a sign of reformation ... In my mind, this all boils down to class snobbery. It is automatically assumed that Barton has violent tendencies because he's a working-class man who has chosen to play football for a living. So when he shows signs of intelligence, it's treated as a sign of reform: intellect is the preserve of the gentlemanly middle-classes."[185]
On 3 March 2013, Barton faced an angry backlash from thousands of teenage girls after taunting Canadian teen idol Justin Bieber and his fans on Twitter. He branded the Canadian singer as "a smack addiction waiting to happen".[186] A few weeks later, he caused controversy once more after comparing Brazilian superstar Neymar to Justin Bieber.[187]
On 28 December 2011, Barton became a father. His partner Georgia McNeil gave birth to a baby boy who was named Cassius.[188]"
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During Burnley's defeat against Lincoln City in the 2017 FA Cup Joey Barton claimed contact by Imps' striker Matt Rhead and went down clutching his head. This is the latest incident in a long-standing dispute with Rhead. A replay showed no contact was made and Barton's actions have been condemned by the wider football community particular in light of Barton's 3rd February 2013 tweet where he stated "Players who roll around when nobody touches them should be subsequently banned. I hate cheats. Authorities should address it." [1] PINEAPPLES ( talk) 13:37, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
References
Someone's clearly having a laugh about Joey Barton forcing his players to listen to Studio Ghibli soundtracks. This has to be changed pronto. BartonNietzsche ( talk) 14:46, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
There is an extra blank line between the sections on Views and Gambling.
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Barton did not play against Manchester United on the opening day of the 2010-11 season, it was Aston Villa, and he scored in that game as Newcastle won 6-0 at home. 185.98.181.192 ( talk) 14:17, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 ( talk) 15:44, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Joey Barton completed more minutes in prison (110,880) than he played professional football (35,176) minutes. 2A02:A468:19DF:1:45AF:DB49:2235:F9D ( talk) 01:32, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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Listed as a football manager but a hobbist podcast host would be more accurate for last employment 2A02:6B6A:B265:0:A1AA:D068:924E:2019 ( talk) 19:44, 8 April 2024 (UTC)