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On German wiki, the date of bitrh is 1943. Why? Which date is true? Sorry for my english.
First pop singer to perform in the Soviet Union? What about Dean Reed? Dean Reed moved to East Germany in 1973, and started performing all over the East Bloc...I bet he beat Joe to the punch.
Try 16 October 1940 for Joe's real birth date. Was a classmate of the guy.
Fintan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.251.0.26 ( talk) 00:49, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
How much is Joe worth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.202.186.205 ( talk) 17:45, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
The DOB is obviously wrong. He died aged 68, his birthdate suggests he died at 64. Oh me oh my... 86.42.229.49 ( talk) 23:15, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
i think like many people in the entertainment industry he may have shaved a few years off his age
In this article it is alleged that Joe secretly gave thousands of pounds/euros to the poor during his career. seven+one 01:23, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Do you think there should be something mentioned here about his vague sexuality. [6] [7] -- MaxPride ( talk) 16:40, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Popular trivia should mention the "What stars do travellers follow", Joe Dolan. It is too funny!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.151.26.75 ( talk) 23:06, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Just tagged the article as not sticking to NPOV, unencyclopedic tone, weasel words etc. It needs a thorough edit to trim down the excess and include more references. Autarch ( talk) 13:17, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
As an Encyclopædia entry this article on Joe Dolan is not up to standard. Actually its one of the worst I've read for all the reasons given at the beginning. It should stick to facts and give references? It would benefit from someone who didn't know the guy. The specualtion about his sexuality appears to be - just that and doesn't warrant a seperate heading. I liked some of his songs and even met the guy at my granddad's some forty five years ago but to describe him as a worldwide star is bloody daft. dorkinglad ( talk)
This is typical of many Irish-based articles: full of overflowing bias, but this has got to be the worst case I've ever seen. The poor prose just clogs the article so badly that I can't bear to work on it, as I was intending to do. Not one single statement in the career section is backed up with a reference. Statements in question are too numerous to mention (although apparently he was one of the biggest stars in the world during the 1980s!). Having done some research already I can say that since 1977 he has spent a total of two weeks in the UK charts (at Nos. 96 and 100), has not charted anywhere else outside of Ireland and has NEVER appeared on the US top 100 singles or top 200 albums at any time. The only part of the article which is referenced is his death (which would leave the article pretty bare if all else were deleted). The Personal life section is also very dubious. I'll see if I can tackle it later once I've calmed down!-- Tuzapicabit ( talk) 05:41, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
"whilst definitive versions of songs such as “Danny Boy” maintained a touch of Irish on disc and in concert. In any given month Joe could be touring the Middle East one week, Australia the next, then South Africa and then back to Europe and Ireland. Further international successes and tours followed, with hits such as “More and More” and “It’s You, It’s You, It’s You”."
I agree that the biography is very biased and have done my best to avoid using the glossy terms contained within it. As historians though we must note facts and the biography is a reasonable source for them and that's accepted across this wiki. The biography states he did two tours of Las Vegas in the Continental Lounge and even gives the remuneration for the first one - we can take that as fact. We can also take it as fact that he turned down subsequent tours - because he did. We could go further and report on the highs and lows of the Las Vegas tours, particularly the first one, but I don't see the point. Yes he had nights where there was hardly anyone in but the biography reports that after the first few shows most of the remainder were sold out. That seems reasonable to me. A lot of this information is available from obits too although in less detail. From it I deduce that Joe Dolan never had a successful recording career in the USA but did have success with live shows in Las Vegas and in targetted areas (mostly Irish American) elsewhere in the states.
There is ample evidence to support his successful recording career over four decades (some sources say five). He certainly had number one hits in Ireland across those years, he also had number one hits in other countries. I don't have the book anymore but if anyone has good sources for these please feel free to include them.
When I started editing the article looked like an homage to Joe Dolan. My belief is that it now looks like an encyclopaedic article. Is it finished? I don't think so. SonofSetanta ( talk) 15:10, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Can anyone help with a better image for this article? I've contacted Ben Dolan through the website and had no reply so it looks like it's up to us guys. SonofSetanta ( talk) 14:38, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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On German wiki, the date of bitrh is 1943. Why? Which date is true? Sorry for my english.
First pop singer to perform in the Soviet Union? What about Dean Reed? Dean Reed moved to East Germany in 1973, and started performing all over the East Bloc...I bet he beat Joe to the punch.
Try 16 October 1940 for Joe's real birth date. Was a classmate of the guy.
Fintan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.251.0.26 ( talk) 00:49, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
How much is Joe worth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.202.186.205 ( talk) 17:45, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
The DOB is obviously wrong. He died aged 68, his birthdate suggests he died at 64. Oh me oh my... 86.42.229.49 ( talk) 23:15, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
i think like many people in the entertainment industry he may have shaved a few years off his age
In this article it is alleged that Joe secretly gave thousands of pounds/euros to the poor during his career. seven+one 01:23, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Do you think there should be something mentioned here about his vague sexuality. [6] [7] -- MaxPride ( talk) 16:40, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Popular trivia should mention the "What stars do travellers follow", Joe Dolan. It is too funny!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.151.26.75 ( talk) 23:06, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Just tagged the article as not sticking to NPOV, unencyclopedic tone, weasel words etc. It needs a thorough edit to trim down the excess and include more references. Autarch ( talk) 13:17, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
As an Encyclopædia entry this article on Joe Dolan is not up to standard. Actually its one of the worst I've read for all the reasons given at the beginning. It should stick to facts and give references? It would benefit from someone who didn't know the guy. The specualtion about his sexuality appears to be - just that and doesn't warrant a seperate heading. I liked some of his songs and even met the guy at my granddad's some forty five years ago but to describe him as a worldwide star is bloody daft. dorkinglad ( talk)
This is typical of many Irish-based articles: full of overflowing bias, but this has got to be the worst case I've ever seen. The poor prose just clogs the article so badly that I can't bear to work on it, as I was intending to do. Not one single statement in the career section is backed up with a reference. Statements in question are too numerous to mention (although apparently he was one of the biggest stars in the world during the 1980s!). Having done some research already I can say that since 1977 he has spent a total of two weeks in the UK charts (at Nos. 96 and 100), has not charted anywhere else outside of Ireland and has NEVER appeared on the US top 100 singles or top 200 albums at any time. The only part of the article which is referenced is his death (which would leave the article pretty bare if all else were deleted). The Personal life section is also very dubious. I'll see if I can tackle it later once I've calmed down!-- Tuzapicabit ( talk) 05:41, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
"whilst definitive versions of songs such as “Danny Boy” maintained a touch of Irish on disc and in concert. In any given month Joe could be touring the Middle East one week, Australia the next, then South Africa and then back to Europe and Ireland. Further international successes and tours followed, with hits such as “More and More” and “It’s You, It’s You, It’s You”."
I agree that the biography is very biased and have done my best to avoid using the glossy terms contained within it. As historians though we must note facts and the biography is a reasonable source for them and that's accepted across this wiki. The biography states he did two tours of Las Vegas in the Continental Lounge and even gives the remuneration for the first one - we can take that as fact. We can also take it as fact that he turned down subsequent tours - because he did. We could go further and report on the highs and lows of the Las Vegas tours, particularly the first one, but I don't see the point. Yes he had nights where there was hardly anyone in but the biography reports that after the first few shows most of the remainder were sold out. That seems reasonable to me. A lot of this information is available from obits too although in less detail. From it I deduce that Joe Dolan never had a successful recording career in the USA but did have success with live shows in Las Vegas and in targetted areas (mostly Irish American) elsewhere in the states.
There is ample evidence to support his successful recording career over four decades (some sources say five). He certainly had number one hits in Ireland across those years, he also had number one hits in other countries. I don't have the book anymore but if anyone has good sources for these please feel free to include them.
When I started editing the article looked like an homage to Joe Dolan. My belief is that it now looks like an encyclopaedic article. Is it finished? I don't think so. SonofSetanta ( talk) 15:10, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
Can anyone help with a better image for this article? I've contacted Ben Dolan through the website and had no reply so it looks like it's up to us guys. SonofSetanta ( talk) 14:38, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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