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I believe that Mr Clark neither completed a law degree nor became a Canadian lawyer and therefore should not be included in that category. Am I wrong about that? kgw 06:22, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Um, is the article correct on that? I thought Justin was talking about making fun of Joe, not Catherine (Especially about the "may disagree with" part) Habsfannova 23:56, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
The coat of arms of the Right Honourable Joe Clark maybe found here http://www.heraldry.ca/arms/c/clark.htm user:ctjj.stevenson
An announcement October 2nd, 2006 from McGill University states the appointment of the Rt. Hon. Joe Clark as a Professor of Practice for Public-Private Sector Partnerships at the McGill Centre for Developing-Area Studies (CDAS). http://www.mcgill.ca/newsroom/news/?ItemID=22068 -- Akazie 05:13, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Did he actually graduate from Dalhousie for his law degree? The article says he left before completing his degree. Does that still qualify him for alumnus status? If not, could someone remove the tag? Homagetocatalonia 20:36, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Could someone please do a small write up on the company Joe Clark now heads up that harvests underwater forests? Its really interesting, but I am finding it hard to find the details on it.
Karlheinz Schreiber said he flew people to the 1983 convention to vote for Brian Mulroney. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karlheinz_Schreiber#States_that_West_German_funds_financed_Clark.27s_fall
I added a photo I took of Joe Clark when he was campaigning during the 1979 election. It's not a perfect shot, as the top of his head is out of frame, but I think it is decent. However, I do have more photos from the same day if there is a consensus that this photo is not good enough. Canada Jack ( talk) 16:31, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
"NDP Finance Critic Bob Rae attached a rider to a budget bill declaring that "this House has lost confidence in the government." The five Socred MPs had demanded the tax revenues be allocated to Quebec and when that was turned down, they abstained, which ensured the vote's passage on a 139-133 margin."
Can we correct this? Riders can be attached to bills in the US, but not in Canadian parliament. In this case, the Conservative government introduced the budget. The opposition did not attempt to amend the budget or attach a "rider". Instead, NDP MP Bob Rae introduced a motion of non-confidence as a reaction to the budget, and his motion passed 139-133. Guinness323 ( talk) 06:07, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.218.103 ( talk) 00:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
The section, "Clark Today," seems to need a retitle (i.e. 2006-present) as it seems that many of the accomplishments listed are in the past tense (I count two 'served's and one 'has written'). I have also reworked the first sentence of the section from "Clark continues to use his experience in foreign affairs" to "Clark continues to apply his experience in foreign affairs." It still sounds somehow vague or incomplete as a sentence, but seems a bit better. On another point, the lead sentence reads, "Joe Clark is a Canadian journalist, politician, statesman, businessman,..." Is he still a journalist (i.e. pays dues to a journalist body) or a politician (i.e. campaigns actively for or holds office)? Perhaps rewording with the word 'former' for example, "Joe Clark, an active Canadian statesman and businessman, is a former Canadian journalist and politician, and is ,..."-- Canadiandy talk 04:02, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
The infobox currently states |education=University of Alberta
; however, per the article text, the situation is actually more complicated. I suggest either using |alma mater=
instead or removing education from the infobox entirely.
Nikkimaria (
talk)
01:38, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
|alma_mater=
for a single institution name is perfectly in line with the current documentation of both {{
infobox officeholder}} and {{
infobox person}}. Since no consensus has been reached in this discussion, the
default is the original version - which in this case was |alma_mater=University of Alberta
.
Nikkimaria (
talk)
04:16, 11 October 2016 (UTC)|alma_mater=University of Alberta
, not "solutions" that repeat a school twice or list a degree that the subject doesn't appear to actually have.
Nikkimaria (
talk)
01:56, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
|alma_mater=
. I'll add the different display options below so people can see them. Also, please don't remove {{
cn}} tags unless you provide the needed citation.
Nikkimaria (
talk)
03:08, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
@ Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): I have posted a request for closure of the below RfC at WP:ANRFC - please leave the original version in place until an uninvolved editor can assess the consensus below. Nikkimaria ( talk) 00:07, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
Both sides had valid arguments and 3 users (Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ), Alansohn, and Light show) supported a change to showing all three universities in one parameter while 4 users (Nikkimaria, Fyddlestix, SMcCandlish, and FoCuSandLeArN) wished to retain only the institution from which he graduated. Consequently, consensus has not changed and therefore the article retains the previous consensus as of September 2016, listing only the institution from which he graduated. DrKay ( talk) 17:53, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
Which of the two fields that contain his school info should be displayed. -- Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) ( talk) 22:52, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
Joe Clark | |
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Personal details | |
Education |
University of Alberta (B.A., M.A.) Dalhousie Law School (withdrew) Peter A. Allard School of Law (withdrew) |
Education field only, and only for college education.
Joe Clark | |
---|---|
Personal details | |
Alma mater | University of Alberta |
Joe Clark | |
---|---|
Personal details | |
Education | University of Alberta (B.A., M.A.) |
alma_mater
and education
parameters are redundant, and the former can be merged with the latter. This also has the benefit of avoiding a latinism that we have to link to explain, and the definition of which not even everyone agrees with.If for some reason consensus wants to keep both parameters (e.g. one for degree(s), one for institution(s)), still only include data for the graduated-from institutions. The rest is trivia, and while it might be contextually relevant to include in the article as background facts, it does not rise to the "key, central facts" level expected in an infobox. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 05:54, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
Joe Clark | |
---|---|
Personal details | |
Education |
University of Alberta (B.A., M.A.) Dalhousie Law School (withdrew) Peter A. Allard School of Law (withdrew) |
Alma mater | University of Alberta |
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I believe that Mr Clark neither completed a law degree nor became a Canadian lawyer and therefore should not be included in that category. Am I wrong about that? kgw 06:22, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Um, is the article correct on that? I thought Justin was talking about making fun of Joe, not Catherine (Especially about the "may disagree with" part) Habsfannova 23:56, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
The coat of arms of the Right Honourable Joe Clark maybe found here http://www.heraldry.ca/arms/c/clark.htm user:ctjj.stevenson
An announcement October 2nd, 2006 from McGill University states the appointment of the Rt. Hon. Joe Clark as a Professor of Practice for Public-Private Sector Partnerships at the McGill Centre for Developing-Area Studies (CDAS). http://www.mcgill.ca/newsroom/news/?ItemID=22068 -- Akazie 05:13, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Did he actually graduate from Dalhousie for his law degree? The article says he left before completing his degree. Does that still qualify him for alumnus status? If not, could someone remove the tag? Homagetocatalonia 20:36, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Could someone please do a small write up on the company Joe Clark now heads up that harvests underwater forests? Its really interesting, but I am finding it hard to find the details on it.
Karlheinz Schreiber said he flew people to the 1983 convention to vote for Brian Mulroney. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karlheinz_Schreiber#States_that_West_German_funds_financed_Clark.27s_fall
I added a photo I took of Joe Clark when he was campaigning during the 1979 election. It's not a perfect shot, as the top of his head is out of frame, but I think it is decent. However, I do have more photos from the same day if there is a consensus that this photo is not good enough. Canada Jack ( talk) 16:31, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
"NDP Finance Critic Bob Rae attached a rider to a budget bill declaring that "this House has lost confidence in the government." The five Socred MPs had demanded the tax revenues be allocated to Quebec and when that was turned down, they abstained, which ensured the vote's passage on a 139-133 margin."
Can we correct this? Riders can be attached to bills in the US, but not in Canadian parliament. In this case, the Conservative government introduced the budget. The opposition did not attempt to amend the budget or attach a "rider". Instead, NDP MP Bob Rae introduced a motion of non-confidence as a reaction to the budget, and his motion passed 139-133. Guinness323 ( talk) 06:07, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.218.103 ( talk) 00:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
The section, "Clark Today," seems to need a retitle (i.e. 2006-present) as it seems that many of the accomplishments listed are in the past tense (I count two 'served's and one 'has written'). I have also reworked the first sentence of the section from "Clark continues to use his experience in foreign affairs" to "Clark continues to apply his experience in foreign affairs." It still sounds somehow vague or incomplete as a sentence, but seems a bit better. On another point, the lead sentence reads, "Joe Clark is a Canadian journalist, politician, statesman, businessman,..." Is he still a journalist (i.e. pays dues to a journalist body) or a politician (i.e. campaigns actively for or holds office)? Perhaps rewording with the word 'former' for example, "Joe Clark, an active Canadian statesman and businessman, is a former Canadian journalist and politician, and is ,..."-- Canadiandy talk 04:02, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
The infobox currently states |education=University of Alberta
; however, per the article text, the situation is actually more complicated. I suggest either using |alma mater=
instead or removing education from the infobox entirely.
Nikkimaria (
talk)
01:38, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
|alma_mater=
for a single institution name is perfectly in line with the current documentation of both {{
infobox officeholder}} and {{
infobox person}}. Since no consensus has been reached in this discussion, the
default is the original version - which in this case was |alma_mater=University of Alberta
.
Nikkimaria (
talk)
04:16, 11 October 2016 (UTC)|alma_mater=University of Alberta
, not "solutions" that repeat a school twice or list a degree that the subject doesn't appear to actually have.
Nikkimaria (
talk)
01:56, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
|alma_mater=
. I'll add the different display options below so people can see them. Also, please don't remove {{
cn}} tags unless you provide the needed citation.
Nikkimaria (
talk)
03:08, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
@ Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): I have posted a request for closure of the below RfC at WP:ANRFC - please leave the original version in place until an uninvolved editor can assess the consensus below. Nikkimaria ( talk) 00:07, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
Both sides had valid arguments and 3 users (Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ), Alansohn, and Light show) supported a change to showing all three universities in one parameter while 4 users (Nikkimaria, Fyddlestix, SMcCandlish, and FoCuSandLeArN) wished to retain only the institution from which he graduated. Consequently, consensus has not changed and therefore the article retains the previous consensus as of September 2016, listing only the institution from which he graduated. DrKay ( talk) 17:53, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
Which of the two fields that contain his school info should be displayed. -- Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) ( talk) 22:52, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
Joe Clark | |
---|---|
Personal details | |
Education |
University of Alberta (B.A., M.A.) Dalhousie Law School (withdrew) Peter A. Allard School of Law (withdrew) |
Education field only, and only for college education.
Joe Clark | |
---|---|
Personal details | |
Alma mater | University of Alberta |
Joe Clark | |
---|---|
Personal details | |
Education | University of Alberta (B.A., M.A.) |
alma_mater
and education
parameters are redundant, and the former can be merged with the latter. This also has the benefit of avoiding a latinism that we have to link to explain, and the definition of which not even everyone agrees with.If for some reason consensus wants to keep both parameters (e.g. one for degree(s), one for institution(s)), still only include data for the graduated-from institutions. The rest is trivia, and while it might be contextually relevant to include in the article as background facts, it does not rise to the "key, central facts" level expected in an infobox. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 05:54, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
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Personal details | |
Education |
University of Alberta (B.A., M.A.) Dalhousie Law School (withdrew) Peter A. Allard School of Law (withdrew) |
Alma mater | University of Alberta |
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