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Add Million Reasons as a single (on ladygaga.com it says million reasons out now under perfect illusion) Thanks Redhoodieslime ( talk) 11:40, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
On lady gagas twitter it says theres a single artwork for million reasons — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redhoodieslime ( talk • contribs) 07:11, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
How about a-yo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redhoodieslime ( talk • contribs) 09:59, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
There are many different genres mentioned throughout this article. Shall we begin a discussion about which ones should be listed in the infobox? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 16:15, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
I'd definitely add country to the list. It's the main genre that strikes me when listening to the record. Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2016/11/01/lady-gaga-pink-and-even-pentatonix-are-making-waves-in-the-country-music-world/ Israell ( talk) 23:44, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
I've never seen a quote box displaying recording locations in a Wikipedia article before. Is this necessary, or even helpful? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 16:50, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
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On Track listing, add brackets to Dancin' in Circles so that it has a link to it's own article Dancin' in Circles 177.65.159.230 ( talk) 15:24, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
See liner notes here: http://genius.com/Lady-gaga-joanne-booklet-lyrics — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.135.70.1 ( talk) 21:36, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
Is it redundant to have the metacritic score in the Review scores box as well as in the critical reception header? Looking for clarification on this matter since I was told it's "gratuitous" but I feel it's better for at-a-glance purposes. -- Jennica Talk 00:49, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
I feel like it should be "Critical reception".. It's all I've ever seen it referred to on wikipedia. Another user keeps changing it to "critical response". It should also be "Commercial performance" and not "commercial reception". It's consistent from what I've seen all over wiki -- Jennica Talk 23:57, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
I just learned that it's against the guidelines to have psuedo-headlines.. and so every category under Personnel has to have a subheader which I think is gaudy. I've seen on other pages where they don't even list the categories (Production, design etc..). What do you guys think? Just keep it all together or separate? -- Jennica✿ Talk 10:19, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
"complications arousing out of lupus" presumably should be "complications arising from lupus". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:3A29:7740:7998:621D:19A6:23C8 ( talk) 22:27, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Not sure if there is enough out there for a standalone article yet, but figured I'd share some links here for future reference. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:12, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
The song charted in the UK... --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:22, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
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Joanne became the third Lady Gaga's album to top the Brazilian Album Charts following Born This Way (2011) and ARTPOP (2013). One day after Joanne's release, the album was certified Gold by ABPD, with 20,000 shipments. Math eusd ( talk) 21:38, 6 November 2016 (UTC) [1]
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Where is the "Release history" of this article? GagaNutella talk 00:14, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
The intro section states the album reached "Top 10 in more than 15 territories", the chart section however shows the album hit Top 5 in 20 countries and the Top 10 in 25 countries (27 if you include Scotland and UK as well as Flanders and Wallonia as seperate entities), please update. -- 2A02:810C:240:4E04:783F:7CB:6CA4:CA2F ( talk) 16:21, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
The album was #1 on Russia according to: https://lenta.ru/news/2016/11/01/itunes/ However is not included in the charts table. This same website is used as the source for Russian Albums Chart in other albums entries in Wikipedia, like Anti (Rihanna), Glory (Britney Spears), Rebel Heart (Madonna) or 1989 (Taylor Swift), just to name a few. Can anyone please add Russia to the album's charts table and to the list of countries where it reached #1 in the intro section? Thanks. AyuFame ( talk) 16:16, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
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Math eusd ( talk) 16:34, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
Joanne sold 314k copies in first week and 104k copies in second week. Source: Mediatraffic. http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums.htm
In the Music and Lyrics section, a reference is cited that incorrectly quotes the lyrics to Diamond Heart. Perhaps a more accurate source should be used and the correct lyric used in this article..
The erroneous line is, "Hearkening to her earlier works, the singer utters the line "I may not be perfect, but I've got a diamond heart""
The actual lyric begins, "I'm not flawless" or "I might not be flawless". She uses the word "flawless", not "perfect". Xblkx ( talk) 11:01, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
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Joanne was included on NME's Albums Of The Year list, at #20 place. About the album NME said: "Following the conceptual excesses of 2013’s ‘Artpop’, Lady Gaga’s fourth album neither looked nor sounded much like a Lady Gaga album at all. Instead, for all its starry cast of A-list collaborators, ’Joanne’ felt more like the first Stefani Germanotta album: a more personal, stripped-back, soft-rock turn that revealed much about the woman behind the meat couture and Mother Monster persona. Gaga’s diva impulses were given free reign on tracks like ‘Perfect Illusion’ and ‘Come to Mama’, but it was ‘Joanne’’s quieter, more introspective moments that hit hardest and lingered longest."
Source: http://www.nme.com/list/nme-best-albums-2016-1869261 Math eusd ( talk) 13:38, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
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Digital Spy named Joanne the #9 best album of 2016 http://www.digitalspy.com/music/feature/a816398/best-albums-of-2016/
Joanne are in #1 in Brazil for six weeks http://www.portalsucesso.com.br/ranking Math eusd ( talk) 12:09, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
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EDIT 1 Joanne was named the #32 best album of the year, according to Billboard. Source: http://www.billboard.com/photos/7597536/billboards-50-best-albums-of-2016-critics-picks/1 Math eusd ( talk) 00:14, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
Why no word about that fact? After four weeks out of the charts in many countries (Germany etc). It's a huge commercial fail. Fact! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.154.241.232 ( talk) 13:39, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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Joanne debut at number #1 in Brazil and still in the position for 7 weeks. The album has 35k shipments. Source: http://www.portalsucesso.com.br/ranking Joanne is also gold in Brazil (20k) http://abpd.org.br/home/busca-geral/?busca_geral=lady+gaga&submit_advanced=submit_advanced Math eusd ( talk) 23:34, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
ABPD is no longer certified albums in Brazil. The award is given by the labels. According to UMG Brasil, Joanne is platinum with 40k shipments. The sources are http://www.superpride.com.br/2016/12/novata-joanne-conquista-o-1o-certificado-de-platina-pelas-vendas-do-disco-no-brasil.html and https://www.facebook.com/umusicbrasil/photos/a.121491757870123.17691.118830248136274/1417392018280084/?type=3&theater. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Math eusd ( talk • contribs) 15:56, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
According to Nielsen, Joanne sold 435,000 in 2016 (US only). "Her most recent album, Joanne, had over 435,000 sales in 2016" Source: http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insights/news/2017/going-gaga-on-the-gridiron.html?cid=socSprinklr-Nielsen
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Gleekunicorns ( talk) 16:45, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Music01 and Sricsi, please don't edit war over image use within the article. Take the time to instead discuss here which ones are better to include and why. Snuggums ( talk / edits) 15:41, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
You are completely right. Will do so in the future. My only concern was not to use pictures of the same event (her tour performance) when we have illustrations of multiple events where she performed songs from the album. -- Sricsi ( talk) 21:44, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
It was certified Platinum in Brazil 2 months after it was released. Why isn’t this on the Wikipedia page? That was well over a year ago! It’s devaluing the successes of the album.
JOANNE IS PLATINUM IN BRAZIL. ADD IT
According to Official Charts UK, Joanne sold 130,000 in UK. "Joanne - Gaga's fifth studio record - peaked at Number 3 on the Official Albums Chart in October 2016. The collection has been certified Gold in the UK with sales of 130,000. " Source: http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/lady-gagas-joanne-uk-arena-tour-support-announced__21510/
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Re: Joshua Tillman / Father John Misty and his involvement. There seems to be a discrepancy between the "Writing and recording" section and the "Personnel" section, no? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 23:00, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Here is an article from Forbes that states "Million Reasons" is still the current single from Joanne.
Can someone add this on this article and JW's? GagaNutella talk 22:41, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
What about to include an "Impact" section in the article? I did one on the Portuguese Wikipedia, with many journalists noting Gaga's music and image change with Joanne, as well the new artistic and personal approach she adopted for the album era and the return of the "vocalist era" "Million Reasons" brought — alongside many others songs. It's just a suggestion, but I think that would be useful. Music01 ( talk) 14:44, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
The album has had impact. There are at least 5 articles that prove that. Look at Kesh, Miley, Harry, now Justin and others. More will follow this trend Joanne was at the forefront of. Commericial mainstream singers ‘stripping down’. Time will tell. But an IMPACT section needs adding. Riordanpett ( talk) 21:01, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
This album's impact is undeniable. There are 6 different articles by 5 different magazines in which they are recognizing Joanne's impact on the current shift of the music.
First: Forbes in which Hugh McIntyre is saying: "Lady Gaga was one of the first artists currently helping usher in this new era with her latest album Joanne, which saw her put down the disco stick and pick up an acoustic guitar", "Since then, a number of superstars have decided to stick with full bands and guitars, and some of the most famous have been able to make it work, at least for a little while.", "Miley Cyrus’ new single “Malibu” takes the listener to the beach with a Modest Mouse, indie rock-styled pop tune, while former One Direction member Harry Styles went one step further and dove headfirst into light glam rock with his first solo album and its lead single “Sign Of The Times.”, "The latest star to jump on the bandwagon and ditch all things electronic for guitars and an easier sound is Kesha, who is mounting an incredible return to the mainstream after several years away.". Link: https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2017/08/16/lady-gaga-miley-kesha-top-40-pop-has-gone-acoustic-but-is-it-going-well/#324fbdf94e7f
Second: Billboard's article by Andrew Unterberger: "Miley Cyrus' 'Malibu' & New Album: Will It Be Her Version of Lady Gaga's Joanne?". Then goes on to say: "If some of that language sounded familiar upon first reading, it might be because it's not all that different from the rhetoric espoused by another left-of-center pop star preceding her own voyage back to the middle." (a.k.a. Gaga) and "It seems that Cyrus' new music is taking her down a similar path in the post-Trump age". Link: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7800066/miley-cyrus-malibu-lady-gaga-joanne-centric-pop-stars
Third: Billboard again. Article by Gary Trust: "With 'Million Reasons,' Is Lady Gaga Bringing Back 'The Vocalist Era'?". Quotes: ""Reasons" as part of a bigger musical picture, given the song's booming vocal, punctuated by Gaga's "I bow down to pray" high notes out of the verses." and "I think we are entering a new era of traditional ballads and big vocals.". Link: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7744316/with-million-reasons-is-lady-gaga-bringing-back-the-vocalist-era
Fourth: The Atlantic featuring article by Spencer Kornhaber: "Like Gaga with last year’s Joanne, Kesha trades thumping electro for analogue instruments and genres that, fairly or not, have an easier time being perceived as “authentic”: rock and roll, country, folk." and "Also like Gaga, she tries to execute this turn while tamping down, but not altogether ditching, her previous persona." Link: https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/08/kesha-rainbow-review-human-superhero/536355/
Fifth: Glamour with article by: Christopher Rosa: "Gaga toned down her look, her sound, everything.", "Her album that dropped a month later (Joanne) boasts this aesthetic too: It has exactly zero true-blue pop songs; she delivers raw vocals and soft acoustics throughout it. She wears a cowboy hat on the cover.". And then he listed Katy Perry, Miley Cyrus and Selena Gomez for toning down their looks. Keep in mind that Joanne was released before any of theirs work. Link: https://www.glamour.com/story/pop-stars-are-stripping-down-their-sounds-and-looks
Sixth: Odyssey by Melissa Engelman: "Did Miley Cyrus Copy Lady Gaga?" "Is she really now growing up, or has she strategically been the wild child to now reap the benefits? Either way, it is reminding me of another pop princess who is dear to my heart, Lady Gaga.", "Her last album "Joanne," while it tips its hat at the previous work she has done, is much more stripped down comparatively and has a country influence.", "What changed for Gaga, and how does this at all relate to Cyrus’ recent music?" and "However, the new song is very reminiscent of her Meet Miley Cyrus album, which leads me to believe that she was, in fact, taking a cue from the Mother Monster as a way to kick off her career apart from Hannah Montana." (Mother Monster = Lady Gaga). Link: https://www.theodysseyonline.com/did-miley-cyrus-copy-lady-gaga
These are 6 different examples of the impact Gaga's Joanne album has had in the last 10 months since it's release and I am sure there will be more as the time passes. I think Impact section is necessary addition.
P.S. Sales ≠ Impact. An album can have impact and influence on others even though it's not blockbuster. And Joanne is selling as much as any other pop album in this poor music industry climate. JoDash ( talk) 02:15, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
Rolling Stone: "Cyrus had long been a fan of Labrinth's work, and beyond him and Howard, she admires Ed Sheeran, Sam Smith and Lady Gaga. The latter's most recent release, the country-infused Joanne, has served as her muse during the writing process album for her debut album in recent months." Link:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/noah-cyrus-on-what-miley-taught-her-emotional-debut-single-w455215
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Brad Wete from Billboard named Lady Gaga's pink 'Joanne' hat "pop's most recognizable accessory of the year." Link: http://www.billboard.com/articles/events/year-in-music-2016/7616982/lady-gaga-joanne-hat-price JoDash ( talk) 13:43, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
NEW: Vanity Fair's Josh Duboff writes: "In returning to his “roots,” the seemingly countryfied Timberlake recalls the feel of Gaga’s Joanne era (which, aesthetically, was most notable for the pink cowboy hat she wore on the album’s cover and in many of the promotional stops). Other pop stars—Miley Cyrus and Kesha among them—have recently pivoted from a more pop-focused sound to something rootsier." https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/01/justin-timberlake-man-of-the-woods-pivot-super-bowl JoDash ( talk) 13:29, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
This needs adding to the page. The album has had a lot of impact, ushering in a new trend of a ‘stripped down’ sound. She was the first mainstream artist in recent years to do this. People misread it when I say that. They think I’m saying she was the first to ever do it. NO. I am saying she has kickstarted a recent trend, 2015 onwards. Riordanpett ( talk) 20:55, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
I saw an article recently saying “is this justin timeberlake’s ‘JOANNE’ era?”
Someone find it and add it Riordanpett ( talk) 20:58, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
X2franklop ( talk) 20:28, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
But that page is the official Facebook of Universal Music Brazil. The others pages of Joanne in different languages have the certification of Brazil.
X2franklop ( talk) 23:38, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
Joanne is #79 in the Spanish Albums (2017) and #97 in the Spanish Streaming Album (2017). Source: Promusicae page http://www.promusicae.es/estaticos/view/21-listas-anuales. Click on PDF "Álbumes" and "Stream Alb" 2017. X2franklop ( talk) 22:59, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
The article currently does not reference "Grigio Girls" outside of its appearance as a bonus track in the deluxe edition. During interviews, Gaga has talked about how she dedicated the song to her friend Sonja. Do you think that it is worth a mention in the "Music and lyrics" section? Here are two sources that could be used for a brief sentence or two on the track ( Elle, Billboard), which includes information on the song's inspiration and some of the lyrics. Just thought it might be helpful. Aoba47 ( talk) 18:19, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
The lead says that Kylie Minogue was inspired by Joanne, but the body of the article does not include information to support this. The following sources can be added to support this claim, and to add information to the "Legacy" section ( The Atlantic, E! News). Aoba47 ( talk) 02:03, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
@ Sricsi and IndianBio: Please, both, stop going back and forth re: images. I am going to restore the longstanding version, but Sricsi, can you please share here which images you'd like to change and why, so editors can consider options and discuss? Thanks. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:05, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
(→) Yes I agree with this change. — IB [ Poke ] 15:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
@ IndianBio: Please take a look at these changes by a Guild of Copy Editors member to make sure you're satisfied for when the Good article review gets picked up. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 21:26, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
The singles paragraph of Joanne states that Million Reasons was certified Platinum. It should be edited in order to reflect that it was certified triple Platinum recently. -- 88.66.227.50 ( talk) 11:48, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Joanne (album)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 09:30, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
Joanne stands out for being Gaga's first album without electronic elements, literally every source of the article mentions that Joanne is a soft rock album with country elements, in the Music and Lyrics section no song is described as "dance-pop" every site and each critic mentions their country acoustic influences, I don't understand why it says "dance-pop" in the description of the song, it doesn't make sense, there are around 150 references that say otherwise. Where's the "dance-pop"?
Diamond Heart / rock-EDM
A-YO / country pop
Joanne / country
John Wayne / pop rock
Dancin' in Circles / pop, reggae and ska
Perfect Illusion /disco-rock
Million Reasons / country
Sinner's Prayer / country, R&B
Come to Mama / folk
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Add Million Reasons as a single (on ladygaga.com it says million reasons out now under perfect illusion) Thanks Redhoodieslime ( talk) 11:40, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
On lady gagas twitter it says theres a single artwork for million reasons — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redhoodieslime ( talk • contribs) 07:11, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
How about a-yo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redhoodieslime ( talk • contribs) 09:59, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
There are many different genres mentioned throughout this article. Shall we begin a discussion about which ones should be listed in the infobox? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 16:15, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
I'd definitely add country to the list. It's the main genre that strikes me when listening to the record. Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2016/11/01/lady-gaga-pink-and-even-pentatonix-are-making-waves-in-the-country-music-world/ Israell ( talk) 23:44, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
I've never seen a quote box displaying recording locations in a Wikipedia article before. Is this necessary, or even helpful? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 16:50, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
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On Track listing, add brackets to Dancin' in Circles so that it has a link to it's own article Dancin' in Circles 177.65.159.230 ( talk) 15:24, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
See liner notes here: http://genius.com/Lady-gaga-joanne-booklet-lyrics — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.135.70.1 ( talk) 21:36, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
Is it redundant to have the metacritic score in the Review scores box as well as in the critical reception header? Looking for clarification on this matter since I was told it's "gratuitous" but I feel it's better for at-a-glance purposes. -- Jennica Talk 00:49, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
I feel like it should be "Critical reception".. It's all I've ever seen it referred to on wikipedia. Another user keeps changing it to "critical response". It should also be "Commercial performance" and not "commercial reception". It's consistent from what I've seen all over wiki -- Jennica Talk 23:57, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
I just learned that it's against the guidelines to have psuedo-headlines.. and so every category under Personnel has to have a subheader which I think is gaudy. I've seen on other pages where they don't even list the categories (Production, design etc..). What do you guys think? Just keep it all together or separate? -- Jennica✿ Talk 10:19, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
"complications arousing out of lupus" presumably should be "complications arising from lupus". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:3A29:7740:7998:621D:19A6:23C8 ( talk) 22:27, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Not sure if there is enough out there for a standalone article yet, but figured I'd share some links here for future reference. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:12, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
The song charted in the UK... --- Another Believer ( Talk) 15:22, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
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Joanne became the third Lady Gaga's album to top the Brazilian Album Charts following Born This Way (2011) and ARTPOP (2013). One day after Joanne's release, the album was certified Gold by ABPD, with 20,000 shipments. Math eusd ( talk) 21:38, 6 November 2016 (UTC) [1]
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Where is the "Release history" of this article? GagaNutella talk 00:14, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
The intro section states the album reached "Top 10 in more than 15 territories", the chart section however shows the album hit Top 5 in 20 countries and the Top 10 in 25 countries (27 if you include Scotland and UK as well as Flanders and Wallonia as seperate entities), please update. -- 2A02:810C:240:4E04:783F:7CB:6CA4:CA2F ( talk) 16:21, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
The album was #1 on Russia according to: https://lenta.ru/news/2016/11/01/itunes/ However is not included in the charts table. This same website is used as the source for Russian Albums Chart in other albums entries in Wikipedia, like Anti (Rihanna), Glory (Britney Spears), Rebel Heart (Madonna) or 1989 (Taylor Swift), just to name a few. Can anyone please add Russia to the album's charts table and to the list of countries where it reached #1 in the intro section? Thanks. AyuFame ( talk) 16:16, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
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Math eusd ( talk) 16:34, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
Joanne sold 314k copies in first week and 104k copies in second week. Source: Mediatraffic. http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums.htm
In the Music and Lyrics section, a reference is cited that incorrectly quotes the lyrics to Diamond Heart. Perhaps a more accurate source should be used and the correct lyric used in this article..
The erroneous line is, "Hearkening to her earlier works, the singer utters the line "I may not be perfect, but I've got a diamond heart""
The actual lyric begins, "I'm not flawless" or "I might not be flawless". She uses the word "flawless", not "perfect". Xblkx ( talk) 11:01, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
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Joanne was included on NME's Albums Of The Year list, at #20 place. About the album NME said: "Following the conceptual excesses of 2013’s ‘Artpop’, Lady Gaga’s fourth album neither looked nor sounded much like a Lady Gaga album at all. Instead, for all its starry cast of A-list collaborators, ’Joanne’ felt more like the first Stefani Germanotta album: a more personal, stripped-back, soft-rock turn that revealed much about the woman behind the meat couture and Mother Monster persona. Gaga’s diva impulses were given free reign on tracks like ‘Perfect Illusion’ and ‘Come to Mama’, but it was ‘Joanne’’s quieter, more introspective moments that hit hardest and lingered longest."
Source: http://www.nme.com/list/nme-best-albums-2016-1869261 Math eusd ( talk) 13:38, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
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Digital Spy named Joanne the #9 best album of 2016 http://www.digitalspy.com/music/feature/a816398/best-albums-of-2016/
Joanne are in #1 in Brazil for six weeks http://www.portalsucesso.com.br/ranking Math eusd ( talk) 12:09, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
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EDIT 1 Joanne was named the #32 best album of the year, according to Billboard. Source: http://www.billboard.com/photos/7597536/billboards-50-best-albums-of-2016-critics-picks/1 Math eusd ( talk) 00:14, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
Why no word about that fact? After four weeks out of the charts in many countries (Germany etc). It's a huge commercial fail. Fact! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.154.241.232 ( talk) 13:39, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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Joanne debut at number #1 in Brazil and still in the position for 7 weeks. The album has 35k shipments. Source: http://www.portalsucesso.com.br/ranking Joanne is also gold in Brazil (20k) http://abpd.org.br/home/busca-geral/?busca_geral=lady+gaga&submit_advanced=submit_advanced Math eusd ( talk) 23:34, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
ABPD is no longer certified albums in Brazil. The award is given by the labels. According to UMG Brasil, Joanne is platinum with 40k shipments. The sources are http://www.superpride.com.br/2016/12/novata-joanne-conquista-o-1o-certificado-de-platina-pelas-vendas-do-disco-no-brasil.html and https://www.facebook.com/umusicbrasil/photos/a.121491757870123.17691.118830248136274/1417392018280084/?type=3&theater. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Math eusd ( talk • contribs) 15:56, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
According to Nielsen, Joanne sold 435,000 in 2016 (US only). "Her most recent album, Joanne, had over 435,000 sales in 2016" Source: http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insights/news/2017/going-gaga-on-the-gridiron.html?cid=socSprinklr-Nielsen
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Gleekunicorns ( talk) 16:45, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Music01 and Sricsi, please don't edit war over image use within the article. Take the time to instead discuss here which ones are better to include and why. Snuggums ( talk / edits) 15:41, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
You are completely right. Will do so in the future. My only concern was not to use pictures of the same event (her tour performance) when we have illustrations of multiple events where she performed songs from the album. -- Sricsi ( talk) 21:44, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
It was certified Platinum in Brazil 2 months after it was released. Why isn’t this on the Wikipedia page? That was well over a year ago! It’s devaluing the successes of the album.
JOANNE IS PLATINUM IN BRAZIL. ADD IT
According to Official Charts UK, Joanne sold 130,000 in UK. "Joanne - Gaga's fifth studio record - peaked at Number 3 on the Official Albums Chart in October 2016. The collection has been certified Gold in the UK with sales of 130,000. " Source: http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/lady-gagas-joanne-uk-arena-tour-support-announced__21510/
X2franklop ( talk) 21:09, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
Re: Joshua Tillman / Father John Misty and his involvement. There seems to be a discrepancy between the "Writing and recording" section and the "Personnel" section, no? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 23:00, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Here is an article from Forbes that states "Million Reasons" is still the current single from Joanne.
Can someone add this on this article and JW's? GagaNutella talk 22:41, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
What about to include an "Impact" section in the article? I did one on the Portuguese Wikipedia, with many journalists noting Gaga's music and image change with Joanne, as well the new artistic and personal approach she adopted for the album era and the return of the "vocalist era" "Million Reasons" brought — alongside many others songs. It's just a suggestion, but I think that would be useful. Music01 ( talk) 14:44, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
The album has had impact. There are at least 5 articles that prove that. Look at Kesh, Miley, Harry, now Justin and others. More will follow this trend Joanne was at the forefront of. Commericial mainstream singers ‘stripping down’. Time will tell. But an IMPACT section needs adding. Riordanpett ( talk) 21:01, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
This album's impact is undeniable. There are 6 different articles by 5 different magazines in which they are recognizing Joanne's impact on the current shift of the music.
First: Forbes in which Hugh McIntyre is saying: "Lady Gaga was one of the first artists currently helping usher in this new era with her latest album Joanne, which saw her put down the disco stick and pick up an acoustic guitar", "Since then, a number of superstars have decided to stick with full bands and guitars, and some of the most famous have been able to make it work, at least for a little while.", "Miley Cyrus’ new single “Malibu” takes the listener to the beach with a Modest Mouse, indie rock-styled pop tune, while former One Direction member Harry Styles went one step further and dove headfirst into light glam rock with his first solo album and its lead single “Sign Of The Times.”, "The latest star to jump on the bandwagon and ditch all things electronic for guitars and an easier sound is Kesha, who is mounting an incredible return to the mainstream after several years away.". Link: https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2017/08/16/lady-gaga-miley-kesha-top-40-pop-has-gone-acoustic-but-is-it-going-well/#324fbdf94e7f
Second: Billboard's article by Andrew Unterberger: "Miley Cyrus' 'Malibu' & New Album: Will It Be Her Version of Lady Gaga's Joanne?". Then goes on to say: "If some of that language sounded familiar upon first reading, it might be because it's not all that different from the rhetoric espoused by another left-of-center pop star preceding her own voyage back to the middle." (a.k.a. Gaga) and "It seems that Cyrus' new music is taking her down a similar path in the post-Trump age". Link: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7800066/miley-cyrus-malibu-lady-gaga-joanne-centric-pop-stars
Third: Billboard again. Article by Gary Trust: "With 'Million Reasons,' Is Lady Gaga Bringing Back 'The Vocalist Era'?". Quotes: ""Reasons" as part of a bigger musical picture, given the song's booming vocal, punctuated by Gaga's "I bow down to pray" high notes out of the verses." and "I think we are entering a new era of traditional ballads and big vocals.". Link: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7744316/with-million-reasons-is-lady-gaga-bringing-back-the-vocalist-era
Fourth: The Atlantic featuring article by Spencer Kornhaber: "Like Gaga with last year’s Joanne, Kesha trades thumping electro for analogue instruments and genres that, fairly or not, have an easier time being perceived as “authentic”: rock and roll, country, folk." and "Also like Gaga, she tries to execute this turn while tamping down, but not altogether ditching, her previous persona." Link: https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/08/kesha-rainbow-review-human-superhero/536355/
Fifth: Glamour with article by: Christopher Rosa: "Gaga toned down her look, her sound, everything.", "Her album that dropped a month later (Joanne) boasts this aesthetic too: It has exactly zero true-blue pop songs; she delivers raw vocals and soft acoustics throughout it. She wears a cowboy hat on the cover.". And then he listed Katy Perry, Miley Cyrus and Selena Gomez for toning down their looks. Keep in mind that Joanne was released before any of theirs work. Link: https://www.glamour.com/story/pop-stars-are-stripping-down-their-sounds-and-looks
Sixth: Odyssey by Melissa Engelman: "Did Miley Cyrus Copy Lady Gaga?" "Is she really now growing up, or has she strategically been the wild child to now reap the benefits? Either way, it is reminding me of another pop princess who is dear to my heart, Lady Gaga.", "Her last album "Joanne," while it tips its hat at the previous work she has done, is much more stripped down comparatively and has a country influence.", "What changed for Gaga, and how does this at all relate to Cyrus’ recent music?" and "However, the new song is very reminiscent of her Meet Miley Cyrus album, which leads me to believe that she was, in fact, taking a cue from the Mother Monster as a way to kick off her career apart from Hannah Montana." (Mother Monster = Lady Gaga). Link: https://www.theodysseyonline.com/did-miley-cyrus-copy-lady-gaga
These are 6 different examples of the impact Gaga's Joanne album has had in the last 10 months since it's release and I am sure there will be more as the time passes. I think Impact section is necessary addition.
P.S. Sales ≠ Impact. An album can have impact and influence on others even though it's not blockbuster. And Joanne is selling as much as any other pop album in this poor music industry climate. JoDash ( talk) 02:15, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
Rolling Stone: "Cyrus had long been a fan of Labrinth's work, and beyond him and Howard, she admires Ed Sheeran, Sam Smith and Lady Gaga. The latter's most recent release, the country-infused Joanne, has served as her muse during the writing process album for her debut album in recent months." Link:
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/noah-cyrus-on-what-miley-taught-her-emotional-debut-single-w455215
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Brad Wete from Billboard named Lady Gaga's pink 'Joanne' hat "pop's most recognizable accessory of the year." Link: http://www.billboard.com/articles/events/year-in-music-2016/7616982/lady-gaga-joanne-hat-price JoDash ( talk) 13:43, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
NEW: Vanity Fair's Josh Duboff writes: "In returning to his “roots,” the seemingly countryfied Timberlake recalls the feel of Gaga’s Joanne era (which, aesthetically, was most notable for the pink cowboy hat she wore on the album’s cover and in many of the promotional stops). Other pop stars—Miley Cyrus and Kesha among them—have recently pivoted from a more pop-focused sound to something rootsier." https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/01/justin-timberlake-man-of-the-woods-pivot-super-bowl JoDash ( talk) 13:29, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
This needs adding to the page. The album has had a lot of impact, ushering in a new trend of a ‘stripped down’ sound. She was the first mainstream artist in recent years to do this. People misread it when I say that. They think I’m saying she was the first to ever do it. NO. I am saying she has kickstarted a recent trend, 2015 onwards. Riordanpett ( talk) 20:55, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
I saw an article recently saying “is this justin timeberlake’s ‘JOANNE’ era?”
Someone find it and add it Riordanpett ( talk) 20:58, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
X2franklop ( talk) 20:28, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
But that page is the official Facebook of Universal Music Brazil. The others pages of Joanne in different languages have the certification of Brazil.
X2franklop ( talk) 23:38, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
Joanne is #79 in the Spanish Albums (2017) and #97 in the Spanish Streaming Album (2017). Source: Promusicae page http://www.promusicae.es/estaticos/view/21-listas-anuales. Click on PDF "Álbumes" and "Stream Alb" 2017. X2franklop ( talk) 22:59, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
The article currently does not reference "Grigio Girls" outside of its appearance as a bonus track in the deluxe edition. During interviews, Gaga has talked about how she dedicated the song to her friend Sonja. Do you think that it is worth a mention in the "Music and lyrics" section? Here are two sources that could be used for a brief sentence or two on the track ( Elle, Billboard), which includes information on the song's inspiration and some of the lyrics. Just thought it might be helpful. Aoba47 ( talk) 18:19, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
The lead says that Kylie Minogue was inspired by Joanne, but the body of the article does not include information to support this. The following sources can be added to support this claim, and to add information to the "Legacy" section ( The Atlantic, E! News). Aoba47 ( talk) 02:03, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
@ Sricsi and IndianBio: Please, both, stop going back and forth re: images. I am going to restore the longstanding version, but Sricsi, can you please share here which images you'd like to change and why, so editors can consider options and discuss? Thanks. --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:05, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
(→) Yes I agree with this change. — IB [ Poke ] 15:32, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
@ IndianBio: Please take a look at these changes by a Guild of Copy Editors member to make sure you're satisfied for when the Good article review gets picked up. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk) 21:26, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
The singles paragraph of Joanne states that Million Reasons was certified Platinum. It should be edited in order to reflect that it was certified triple Platinum recently. -- 88.66.227.50 ( talk) 11:48, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Joanne (album)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 09:30, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
Joanne stands out for being Gaga's first album without electronic elements, literally every source of the article mentions that Joanne is a soft rock album with country elements, in the Music and Lyrics section no song is described as "dance-pop" every site and each critic mentions their country acoustic influences, I don't understand why it says "dance-pop" in the description of the song, it doesn't make sense, there are around 150 references that say otherwise. Where's the "dance-pop"?
Diamond Heart / rock-EDM
A-YO / country pop
Joanne / country
John Wayne / pop rock
Dancin' in Circles / pop, reggae and ska
Perfect Illusion /disco-rock
Million Reasons / country
Sinner's Prayer / country, R&B
Come to Mama / folk
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