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I've just made significant edits to the article. I want to let them sit for a while before continuing. If I have ruined something you cherish, or plan to, please speak up. I am concerned about the whole article's clarity and reference quality, which draws very heavily on speculative media stories and old reports. My next changes will be: 1. Improve referencing regarding range. I've stuck with 4000km as it appears to be the specification/designed range, per references. But other references say 3000km from the antenna. Will need to look deeper into refs. 2. Halve the length of information on antennas. Summarise lists, and reduce redundant data. Merge operational data into the operational section. 3. Merge costing information, possibly add a table. Remove costings mentioned multiple times. Possibly merge with history. 4. Make the history section less confusing, aiming to conserve all content. 5. Improve in text linking to relevant pages, such as [ionosphere]
Millionmice ( talk) 20:47, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
It's interesting to note that the IP address 203.14.96.53 belongs to RLM Group, the company that built Jindalee. I wonder why they, or their client, don't want coordinates in a Wikipedia article?
Results of query:
IP address: | 203.14.96.53 |
Reverse DNS: | srv000.rlmgroup.com.au. |
Reverse DNS authenticity: | [Verified] |
ASN: | 1221 |
ASN Name: | ASN-TELSTRA (Telstra Pty Ltd) |
IP range connectivity: | 1 |
Registrar (per ASN): | APNIC |
Country (per IP registrar): | AU [Australia] |
Country Currency: | AUD [Australia Dollars] |
Country IP Range: | 203.14.64.0 to 203.14.127.255 |
Country fraud profile: | Normal |
City (per outside source): | Burwood, New South Wales |
Country (per outside source): | AU [Australia] |
Private (internal) IP? | No |
IP address registrar: | whois.apnic.net |
Known Proxy? | No |
Link for WHOIS: | 203.14.96.53 |
I'm not too well up on the syntax for references, but there's a broken link (gone 404) in citation #4. http://defence-data.com/features/fpage37.htm is unavailable, but it's on the Wayback Machine at http://web.archive.org/web/20071116065249/http://defence-data.com/features/fpage37.htm - if someone can check over my edit and see that it's in proper syntax, it'd be much appreciated! Rosuav ( talk) 16:22, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps some of this information http://www.smh.com.au/national/border-fiasco-as-boats-go-undetected-20110702-1gwaz.html should be included. It questions the capability and whether "JORN [is] operational on a day-to-day basis" 122.106.177.130 ( talk) 03:59, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
It appears that the book "The Armed Forces: Instrument of Peace, Strength, Development and Prosperity", by Joseph Babatunde Fagoyinbo, has copied slabs of text from this article, without attribution. In support of this, I offer the following evidence:
In light of this evidence, I ask that anyone who removed my words from this article, in response to the cut/paste tag, restore the words they removed. Thanks. John Dalton ( talk) 10:15, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
The section "Operation and uses" consists of 58% (by word count) discussion concerning why the system should have detected MH370 but didn't. This is very disproportionate, certainly. But the sources for the controversial content are the opinions of a single journalist and the easily refuted reasoning and blatant falsehoods described in a letter to politicians from an "aviation expert" (I.e., the trajectory proposed by the Inmarsat data was never inbound toward Australian territory) published in ibitimes.co(.uk and .au), a source whose reputability I seriously question. (Like the questioned material in this article, ibitimes is full of spelling and grammar errors, and doesn't appear to be edited.) The place for these conspiracy theories is Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 unofficial disappearance theories, not here. I am therefore removing this content. Let's keep this article about JORN. Dcs002 ( talk) 01:35, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
What about its use for mind control over the massess? Why isn't this mentioned? Well, I guess it's obvious ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ IVORK Discuss 21:49, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
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Any story to why it’s called Jindalee?
(I thought Jindalee [for this] was a place).
MBG02 ( talk) 22:47, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
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I've just made significant edits to the article. I want to let them sit for a while before continuing. If I have ruined something you cherish, or plan to, please speak up. I am concerned about the whole article's clarity and reference quality, which draws very heavily on speculative media stories and old reports. My next changes will be: 1. Improve referencing regarding range. I've stuck with 4000km as it appears to be the specification/designed range, per references. But other references say 3000km from the antenna. Will need to look deeper into refs. 2. Halve the length of information on antennas. Summarise lists, and reduce redundant data. Merge operational data into the operational section. 3. Merge costing information, possibly add a table. Remove costings mentioned multiple times. Possibly merge with history. 4. Make the history section less confusing, aiming to conserve all content. 5. Improve in text linking to relevant pages, such as [ionosphere]
Millionmice ( talk) 20:47, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
It's interesting to note that the IP address 203.14.96.53 belongs to RLM Group, the company that built Jindalee. I wonder why they, or their client, don't want coordinates in a Wikipedia article?
Results of query:
IP address: | 203.14.96.53 |
Reverse DNS: | srv000.rlmgroup.com.au. |
Reverse DNS authenticity: | [Verified] |
ASN: | 1221 |
ASN Name: | ASN-TELSTRA (Telstra Pty Ltd) |
IP range connectivity: | 1 |
Registrar (per ASN): | APNIC |
Country (per IP registrar): | AU [Australia] |
Country Currency: | AUD [Australia Dollars] |
Country IP Range: | 203.14.64.0 to 203.14.127.255 |
Country fraud profile: | Normal |
City (per outside source): | Burwood, New South Wales |
Country (per outside source): | AU [Australia] |
Private (internal) IP? | No |
IP address registrar: | whois.apnic.net |
Known Proxy? | No |
Link for WHOIS: | 203.14.96.53 |
I'm not too well up on the syntax for references, but there's a broken link (gone 404) in citation #4. http://defence-data.com/features/fpage37.htm is unavailable, but it's on the Wayback Machine at http://web.archive.org/web/20071116065249/http://defence-data.com/features/fpage37.htm - if someone can check over my edit and see that it's in proper syntax, it'd be much appreciated! Rosuav ( talk) 16:22, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps some of this information http://www.smh.com.au/national/border-fiasco-as-boats-go-undetected-20110702-1gwaz.html should be included. It questions the capability and whether "JORN [is] operational on a day-to-day basis" 122.106.177.130 ( talk) 03:59, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
It appears that the book "The Armed Forces: Instrument of Peace, Strength, Development and Prosperity", by Joseph Babatunde Fagoyinbo, has copied slabs of text from this article, without attribution. In support of this, I offer the following evidence:
In light of this evidence, I ask that anyone who removed my words from this article, in response to the cut/paste tag, restore the words they removed. Thanks. John Dalton ( talk) 10:15, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
The section "Operation and uses" consists of 58% (by word count) discussion concerning why the system should have detected MH370 but didn't. This is very disproportionate, certainly. But the sources for the controversial content are the opinions of a single journalist and the easily refuted reasoning and blatant falsehoods described in a letter to politicians from an "aviation expert" (I.e., the trajectory proposed by the Inmarsat data was never inbound toward Australian territory) published in ibitimes.co(.uk and .au), a source whose reputability I seriously question. (Like the questioned material in this article, ibitimes is full of spelling and grammar errors, and doesn't appear to be edited.) The place for these conspiracy theories is Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 unofficial disappearance theories, not here. I am therefore removing this content. Let's keep this article about JORN. Dcs002 ( talk) 01:35, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
What about its use for mind control over the massess? Why isn't this mentioned? Well, I guess it's obvious ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ IVORK Discuss 21:49, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
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Any story to why it’s called Jindalee?
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MBG02 ( talk) 22:47, 6 September 2021 (UTC)