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at https://www.flickr.com/photos/hmk/53159364482/ It has a Attribution 2.0 Generic (CC BY 2.0) license https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/ . Is that OK with Wikipedia? Anyone else is welcome to add it too. Ttulinsky ( talk) 20:13, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
First of all, great piece! --Would be fun to see a mention of his run-in with Sheriff Buford Pusser of Walking Tall fame. I've heard Buffett mention this during concerts. --No mention of the Coconut Telegraph newsletter that ran (I THINK it's now defunct) for several years; I used to subscribe. --Would be great to see a brief mention of JB's affinity with the Navy, such as his doing survival training at a Navy facility and his friendship with some naval officers, and his public service award granted by, I believe, either the Superintendent of the Naval Academy or maybe it was the Chief of Naval Operations. Finz2right ( talk) 16:34, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
I would like to add Howard Livingston in the "Musical Legacy" sesction of the Jimmy Buffett page as a musician "that have "latched on to his seaside-and-booze themes" such as Kenny Chesney, Alan Jackson, and Zac Brown."
I carefully followed Wikipedia guidelines for "Notability" for doing so, and I tried to cite credible third-party sources.
However after I posted the addition, at 03:02, 21 September 2023 Binksternet Reverted my addition saying "Let's keep it to well-known artists here."
But my reasons for adding Howard Livingston is because he seemed to fit squarely into the "Notability" guidelines on Wikipedia for adding musicians, especially as referring to Jimmy Buffett, as Howard Livingston actually satisies at least two of the criteria applicable to Musicians. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Notability_(music)#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensembles
I documented the addition of Howard Livingston to the list with references to valid news sources - CBS News, Public Radio, newspapers, etc. As the first article I cite says, he is a *major* local musician in Key West, and was the "master of ceremonies" of a celebration about Jimmy Buffett held there earlier this month, where he spoke about Buffett. He also was recently a major presenter along with elected officials - five of the Monroe County Commissioners - celebrating the 200th anniversary of Key West, showing his importance to the Florida Keys as a musician who exemplified the Jimmy Buffet lifestyle and music. Howard Livingston's music is "spot on" in the Jimmy Buffett style, yet all his music is original and he does not do "covers." He has been featured on The Today Show, Good Morning America, The Early Show, The Travel Channel, and The Weather Channel. . His song “Living On An Island” was the theme song for the Discovery Network - a major cable television station - “Buying The Beach” series He has won 10 awards from the national "Trop Rock Association." So how can he not be "well known" as you claim? Specifically, Howard Livinston seems to satisfy two of the dozen Wikiepedia criteria Notability for musicians:
7. Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city. 12. Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network.
I didn't think I needed to cite more than the several news media citations that I already gave in order to show his satisfying these criteria. It seems that would be overkill?
Do I need to create a Wikipedia page focused solely on Howard Livingston before I can add him as a reference to the list of major other artists who perform in the spirit of Jimmy Buffet?
I have many more citations I could give than those I included here to justify the addition of Howard Livingston to the list of musicians that are part of Buffett's musical legacy, but I didn't want to include more than a few citations, but I could give more in a full article.
What I submitted to this Jimmy Buffet page that Binksternet deleted was:
Added musician Howard Livingston and external references showing his influence as part of the Key West "trop rock" phenomenon.). with these references:
[1]
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Gulf and western (music genre) was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 06 August 2009 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Jimmy Buffett. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
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at https://www.flickr.com/photos/hmk/53159364482/ It has a Attribution 2.0 Generic (CC BY 2.0) license https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/ . Is that OK with Wikipedia? Anyone else is welcome to add it too. Ttulinsky ( talk) 20:13, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
First of all, great piece! --Would be fun to see a mention of his run-in with Sheriff Buford Pusser of Walking Tall fame. I've heard Buffett mention this during concerts. --No mention of the Coconut Telegraph newsletter that ran (I THINK it's now defunct) for several years; I used to subscribe. --Would be great to see a brief mention of JB's affinity with the Navy, such as his doing survival training at a Navy facility and his friendship with some naval officers, and his public service award granted by, I believe, either the Superintendent of the Naval Academy or maybe it was the Chief of Naval Operations. Finz2right ( talk) 16:34, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
I would like to add Howard Livingston in the "Musical Legacy" sesction of the Jimmy Buffett page as a musician "that have "latched on to his seaside-and-booze themes" such as Kenny Chesney, Alan Jackson, and Zac Brown."
I carefully followed Wikipedia guidelines for "Notability" for doing so, and I tried to cite credible third-party sources.
However after I posted the addition, at 03:02, 21 September 2023 Binksternet Reverted my addition saying "Let's keep it to well-known artists here."
But my reasons for adding Howard Livingston is because he seemed to fit squarely into the "Notability" guidelines on Wikipedia for adding musicians, especially as referring to Jimmy Buffett, as Howard Livingston actually satisies at least two of the criteria applicable to Musicians. /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Notability_(music)#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensembles
I documented the addition of Howard Livingston to the list with references to valid news sources - CBS News, Public Radio, newspapers, etc. As the first article I cite says, he is a *major* local musician in Key West, and was the "master of ceremonies" of a celebration about Jimmy Buffett held there earlier this month, where he spoke about Buffett. He also was recently a major presenter along with elected officials - five of the Monroe County Commissioners - celebrating the 200th anniversary of Key West, showing his importance to the Florida Keys as a musician who exemplified the Jimmy Buffet lifestyle and music. Howard Livingston's music is "spot on" in the Jimmy Buffett style, yet all his music is original and he does not do "covers." He has been featured on The Today Show, Good Morning America, The Early Show, The Travel Channel, and The Weather Channel. . His song “Living On An Island” was the theme song for the Discovery Network - a major cable television station - “Buying The Beach” series He has won 10 awards from the national "Trop Rock Association." So how can he not be "well known" as you claim? Specifically, Howard Livinston seems to satisfy two of the dozen Wikiepedia criteria Notability for musicians:
7. Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city. 12. Has been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment across a national radio or television network.
I didn't think I needed to cite more than the several news media citations that I already gave in order to show his satisfying these criteria. It seems that would be overkill?
Do I need to create a Wikipedia page focused solely on Howard Livingston before I can add him as a reference to the list of major other artists who perform in the spirit of Jimmy Buffet?
I have many more citations I could give than those I included here to justify the addition of Howard Livingston to the list of musicians that are part of Buffett's musical legacy, but I didn't want to include more than a few citations, but I could give more in a full article.
What I submitted to this Jimmy Buffet page that Binksternet deleted was:
Added musician Howard Livingston and external references showing his influence as part of the Key West "trop rock" phenomenon.). with these references:
[1]
Muirpower (
talk) 14:53, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
References