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I've restored some sourced information to the article that another editor deleted as "irrelevant details", such as information about the movie and details of his torture allegations. Since these are the things for which Jigme Gyatso is most famous, it seems to me that they clearly should be detailed in the article. (It's not as if this article is pressed for space.)
I've also reverted an unsourced attempt to label his film as sinophobic, which also removes any mention that the film criticizes the Chinese government. I'm glad to discuss any of this further, of course, if I've misunderstood. Cheers, -- Khazar2 ( talk) 19:13, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
I've corrected a mistake an IP pointed out, which appears to conflate two different Jigme Gyatsos. Both were senior monks who were arrested in March 2008 and reported being tortured, causing me to believe they were the same individual. However, this appears not to have been the case. I apologize for having built the Frankenstein, and for not having run this down more thoroughly. And thanks to the user who pointed out the error. -- Khazar2 ( talk) 12:57, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi!
This anonymous information appeared on Facebook and supports our readings of the developments and it also gives some additional info on Golog Jigme: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Golok-Jigme-Missing/498900003478236?fref=ts
Quote: "Golok Jigme (Jigme Gyatso) is missing again...Jigme is a monk from the Serta area of Golok in the Tibetan area of Kardze. He came to prominence in 2008 after making the documentary Jigdrel .Leaving Fear Behind.with Dhondrup Wangchen who is now serving a 6 year prison sentence. This film is an honest insight into how Tibetans feel about life under Chinese rule. http://www.filmingfortibet.org/
I had the pleasure of meeting him in my friend’s home in August of this year. He was an inspiring, strong ,funny, humble man with no hatred or anger despite all he has suffered at the hands of the police and government. Our mutual friends wanted me to meet him because for him and them it was basically a waiting game till he would next be arrested, tortured and maybe even killed .Our friends told me that they were powerless to help him in anyway and for them this was a great cause of pain. They asked me to please tell the World about Jigme ,especially if he was ever to go missing again, they said, if more people know it will be harder for the police and government to kill our friend
I will now to the best of my ability try and relay what Golok Jigme told me when I met him. We discussed his first arrest for 7 months in 2008 in a Linxia prison, close to Labrang Monastery (Ch Xiahe, Gansu).He spoke of his 4 month arrest in 2009. Since then he has repeatedly being taken to prison ,for hours, days, a weekend. .But nothing has compared to the brutal torture he experienced in 2008.I saw the torture marks on his ankles and wrists from metal pins being essentially nailed in to him. His ribs were broken from repeated beatings. For one month he was suspended upside down by his ankles and wrists, it was while in this position that the metal pins were forced in to his wrists and ankles .During this month he was never allowed to sleep, was given a stale piece of bread once a week and was once given a glass of water. The others months involved regular beatings and interrogations .When his blood covered body was released he battled to live and for month couldn't walk, only slept. Since then he has been constantly harassed, questioned, followed and instructed to leave Labrang anytime the police don't want him there eg when the Chinese Panchen Lama came in August 2011.Earlier this year he was harassed and questioned while in Xining, Qinghai meeting friends. This man has had no freedom since 2008.
Since September 20th of this year Golok Jigme is again missing. His family and friends are yet again powerless to help him and again another waiting game has begun .Is he dead? Is he being tortured as he was before? The truth is we don’t know .The only hope we have is to keep his name alive, to stop him being forgotten as he and his friends have asked us all to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oangbo ( talk • contribs) 16:23, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
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I've restored some sourced information to the article that another editor deleted as "irrelevant details", such as information about the movie and details of his torture allegations. Since these are the things for which Jigme Gyatso is most famous, it seems to me that they clearly should be detailed in the article. (It's not as if this article is pressed for space.)
I've also reverted an unsourced attempt to label his film as sinophobic, which also removes any mention that the film criticizes the Chinese government. I'm glad to discuss any of this further, of course, if I've misunderstood. Cheers, -- Khazar2 ( talk) 19:13, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
I've corrected a mistake an IP pointed out, which appears to conflate two different Jigme Gyatsos. Both were senior monks who were arrested in March 2008 and reported being tortured, causing me to believe they were the same individual. However, this appears not to have been the case. I apologize for having built the Frankenstein, and for not having run this down more thoroughly. And thanks to the user who pointed out the error. -- Khazar2 ( talk) 12:57, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi!
This anonymous information appeared on Facebook and supports our readings of the developments and it also gives some additional info on Golog Jigme: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Golok-Jigme-Missing/498900003478236?fref=ts
Quote: "Golok Jigme (Jigme Gyatso) is missing again...Jigme is a monk from the Serta area of Golok in the Tibetan area of Kardze. He came to prominence in 2008 after making the documentary Jigdrel .Leaving Fear Behind.with Dhondrup Wangchen who is now serving a 6 year prison sentence. This film is an honest insight into how Tibetans feel about life under Chinese rule. http://www.filmingfortibet.org/
I had the pleasure of meeting him in my friend’s home in August of this year. He was an inspiring, strong ,funny, humble man with no hatred or anger despite all he has suffered at the hands of the police and government. Our mutual friends wanted me to meet him because for him and them it was basically a waiting game till he would next be arrested, tortured and maybe even killed .Our friends told me that they were powerless to help him in anyway and for them this was a great cause of pain. They asked me to please tell the World about Jigme ,especially if he was ever to go missing again, they said, if more people know it will be harder for the police and government to kill our friend
I will now to the best of my ability try and relay what Golok Jigme told me when I met him. We discussed his first arrest for 7 months in 2008 in a Linxia prison, close to Labrang Monastery (Ch Xiahe, Gansu).He spoke of his 4 month arrest in 2009. Since then he has repeatedly being taken to prison ,for hours, days, a weekend. .But nothing has compared to the brutal torture he experienced in 2008.I saw the torture marks on his ankles and wrists from metal pins being essentially nailed in to him. His ribs were broken from repeated beatings. For one month he was suspended upside down by his ankles and wrists, it was while in this position that the metal pins were forced in to his wrists and ankles .During this month he was never allowed to sleep, was given a stale piece of bread once a week and was once given a glass of water. The others months involved regular beatings and interrogations .When his blood covered body was released he battled to live and for month couldn't walk, only slept. Since then he has been constantly harassed, questioned, followed and instructed to leave Labrang anytime the police don't want him there eg when the Chinese Panchen Lama came in August 2011.Earlier this year he was harassed and questioned while in Xining, Qinghai meeting friends. This man has had no freedom since 2008.
Since September 20th of this year Golok Jigme is again missing. His family and friends are yet again powerless to help him and again another waiting game has begun .Is he dead? Is he being tortured as he was before? The truth is we don’t know .The only hope we have is to keep his name alive, to stop him being forgotten as he and his friends have asked us all to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oangbo ( talk • contribs) 16:23, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
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