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The proportion of the article related to recent events and based on recent sources is creeping up again. While recent events need to be covered in some detail they can't be allowed to overwhelm the article. I'd suggest material to be trimmed, but I've tried that in the past and it hasn't worked. Stuartyeates ( talk) 00:31, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
Stop warring, you guys. We've done well up to now discussing changes and coming to agreement without this happening, don't fall off the wagon now. I read this last night and thought that the allegations creeping into other parts of the article was getting out of hand, but I'm glad to see that's been toned down as of this morning. For balance, please try to keep the allegations out of other sections of the article. The section which currently implies that Lights dropped him as a result of the allegations should be trimmed, I don't think the link is reliably sourced, and it doesn't need to be mentioned there anyway. It used to just simply say that he is no longer managing her - we should go back to that. The same for Penguin not publishing his second book. The reason is that even if it is true and can be reliably sourced, we are editorializing and making the entire article about the recent allegations, and we shouldn't do that. As for the criminal charges, I'm fine with mentioning this in the lede, it's supposed to be a summary of the article and it is a significant point. The actual section on the investigations and charges has turned into a play-by-play again and needs to be condensed. Let's talk about that. And stop reverting each other. Ivanvector ( talk) 15:41, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
In the section on the artists JG managed, a photo of Lights, who he managed from 2007 to 2014, was included. Recently, it was deleted.
. Lights is discussed in the section, so it follows the image use policy. I believe that we should put the photo back. OnBeyondZebrax ( talk) 13:30, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
Why is the article written in the past tense? He is (still) a musician, author etc... and as far as I know, he hasn't died. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.10.148.60 ( talk) 05:54, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
Along those same lines, the word should be "pleaded" not "pled". I'm not sure of the proper way of making the change, e.g. how the change should be tracked so I figured I'd leave it for someone knowledgeable to make the change. -ubrgeek 3/24/16
What is Jian Ghomeshi's middle name? Does he even have a middle name? I cannot find it anywhere. Most other entries like this list the person's full name. Samuel Stringman ( talk) 19:22, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Most European countries, for example, people do not have a middle name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:45:4950:AB0C:EDA1:FBFD:E076:4EFF ( talk) 14:02, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
The following text was deleted by Elaquette on the grounds that the relationships were not that serious. I think a list of women Ghomeshi dated is interesting, even if they just went out a few times on dates. OnBeyondZebrax ( talk) 22:54, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
A list of past romantic entanglements with named living women, on an article about a person with unresolved criminal charges regarding sexual assault and anonymous women, is undeniably interesting. I think a lot of people would be profoundly interested. __ E L A Q U E A T E 23:12, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
I am concerned that the article may be placing WP:UNDUE weight on recent events relating to the allegations and criminal trial. The reason Ghomeshi is WP:N-notable- in the first place is due to his accomplishments as a musician and radio broadcaster. What do other editors think about spinning off a new article, with a neutral title, such as 2016 Jian Ghomeshi trial? Then all the details of the allegations and trial could go there, with just the key points kept in this article. OnBeyondZebrax • TALK 16:14, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
It is so unfair for a page to be fully protected indefinitely due to reasons other than edit warring. There will be masses of edit requests in the talk page and the page's quality won't increase. If the page wants to be edited, use LV2 pending revision protection. 86.22.8.235 ( talk) 07:38, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Hello all, in the Criminal Trial section of the Ghomeshi article, there is a notation of a public accusation of Mr. Ghomeshi's guilt by Kathryn Borel, referring to allegations which were withdrawn based on his signature of a peace bond. The re-assertion of his guilt by Borell, and citation within the article of that assertion seems to be at cross purpose to the Wikipedia policy on articles about living persons "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous." If statements of this nature by Mrs. Borel are to be retained on Wikipedia, possibly they can be moved to Kathryn Borel's personal Wikipedia article.
Curmudgeon_prime August 19 2016 (PST)
There are reports that Ghomeshi has a podcast, started in 2016. Shouldn't there be a link to it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.14.113.136 ( talk) 16:16, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
It amazed me just now to see that this article is rated "start-class" by all of the listed WikiProjects. I investigated, and I see that the original assessment for WikiProject Biography was carried out on 30 June 2007, and would have been based on this revision. That, indeed, was start-class, but the article has improved greatly in the intervening nine and a half years. I'd like to suggest that this should be rated B-class. I don't think this would pass a good article review at this point because it's not very stable (it's one of only a handful of indefinitely full-protected pages, that's usually an automatic GA killer). Any objections? Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 17:07, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
@ World's Lamest Critic: I totally agree with your argument normally, but this seems to have been a major issue and was covered significantly enough in the media to warrant inclusion. See: https://globalnews.ca/news/3368180/jian-ghomeshi-new-project-podcast/. Contqul ( talk) 19:25, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
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Please add his birthday. It is June 9. 2605:6000:1526:450B:2982:D9F7:CD8:41FA ( talk) 22:11, 29 August 2020 (UTC) https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancitybuzz-chats-with-jian-ghomeshi https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3416416 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:1526:450B:2982:D9F7:CD8:41FA ( talk) 22:21, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
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Other aspects of his racial or ethnic is included, why is his Jewishness ignored? This is a blemish on this biography.
X: Jian Ghomeshi (Persian: ژیان قمیشی) is a Persian-Canadian[3] broadcaster, Y: Jian Ghomeshi is a Jewish-Canadian[3] broadcaster, 2607:FEA8:2A64:FE00:A47A:7F1A:D181:B247 ( talk) 13:03, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
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The proportion of the article related to recent events and based on recent sources is creeping up again. While recent events need to be covered in some detail they can't be allowed to overwhelm the article. I'd suggest material to be trimmed, but I've tried that in the past and it hasn't worked. Stuartyeates ( talk) 00:31, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
Stop warring, you guys. We've done well up to now discussing changes and coming to agreement without this happening, don't fall off the wagon now. I read this last night and thought that the allegations creeping into other parts of the article was getting out of hand, but I'm glad to see that's been toned down as of this morning. For balance, please try to keep the allegations out of other sections of the article. The section which currently implies that Lights dropped him as a result of the allegations should be trimmed, I don't think the link is reliably sourced, and it doesn't need to be mentioned there anyway. It used to just simply say that he is no longer managing her - we should go back to that. The same for Penguin not publishing his second book. The reason is that even if it is true and can be reliably sourced, we are editorializing and making the entire article about the recent allegations, and we shouldn't do that. As for the criminal charges, I'm fine with mentioning this in the lede, it's supposed to be a summary of the article and it is a significant point. The actual section on the investigations and charges has turned into a play-by-play again and needs to be condensed. Let's talk about that. And stop reverting each other. Ivanvector ( talk) 15:41, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
In the section on the artists JG managed, a photo of Lights, who he managed from 2007 to 2014, was included. Recently, it was deleted.
. Lights is discussed in the section, so it follows the image use policy. I believe that we should put the photo back. OnBeyondZebrax ( talk) 13:30, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
Why is the article written in the past tense? He is (still) a musician, author etc... and as far as I know, he hasn't died. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.10.148.60 ( talk) 05:54, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
Along those same lines, the word should be "pleaded" not "pled". I'm not sure of the proper way of making the change, e.g. how the change should be tracked so I figured I'd leave it for someone knowledgeable to make the change. -ubrgeek 3/24/16
What is Jian Ghomeshi's middle name? Does he even have a middle name? I cannot find it anywhere. Most other entries like this list the person's full name. Samuel Stringman ( talk) 19:22, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Most European countries, for example, people do not have a middle name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:45:4950:AB0C:EDA1:FBFD:E076:4EFF ( talk) 14:02, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
The following text was deleted by Elaquette on the grounds that the relationships were not that serious. I think a list of women Ghomeshi dated is interesting, even if they just went out a few times on dates. OnBeyondZebrax ( talk) 22:54, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
A list of past romantic entanglements with named living women, on an article about a person with unresolved criminal charges regarding sexual assault and anonymous women, is undeniably interesting. I think a lot of people would be profoundly interested. __ E L A Q U E A T E 23:12, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
I am concerned that the article may be placing WP:UNDUE weight on recent events relating to the allegations and criminal trial. The reason Ghomeshi is WP:N-notable- in the first place is due to his accomplishments as a musician and radio broadcaster. What do other editors think about spinning off a new article, with a neutral title, such as 2016 Jian Ghomeshi trial? Then all the details of the allegations and trial could go there, with just the key points kept in this article. OnBeyondZebrax • TALK 16:14, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
It is so unfair for a page to be fully protected indefinitely due to reasons other than edit warring. There will be masses of edit requests in the talk page and the page's quality won't increase. If the page wants to be edited, use LV2 pending revision protection. 86.22.8.235 ( talk) 07:38, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Hello all, in the Criminal Trial section of the Ghomeshi article, there is a notation of a public accusation of Mr. Ghomeshi's guilt by Kathryn Borel, referring to allegations which were withdrawn based on his signature of a peace bond. The re-assertion of his guilt by Borell, and citation within the article of that assertion seems to be at cross purpose to the Wikipedia policy on articles about living persons "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous." If statements of this nature by Mrs. Borel are to be retained on Wikipedia, possibly they can be moved to Kathryn Borel's personal Wikipedia article.
Curmudgeon_prime August 19 2016 (PST)
There are reports that Ghomeshi has a podcast, started in 2016. Shouldn't there be a link to it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.14.113.136 ( talk) 16:16, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
It amazed me just now to see that this article is rated "start-class" by all of the listed WikiProjects. I investigated, and I see that the original assessment for WikiProject Biography was carried out on 30 June 2007, and would have been based on this revision. That, indeed, was start-class, but the article has improved greatly in the intervening nine and a half years. I'd like to suggest that this should be rated B-class. I don't think this would pass a good article review at this point because it's not very stable (it's one of only a handful of indefinitely full-protected pages, that's usually an automatic GA killer). Any objections? Ivanvector ( Talk/ Edits) 17:07, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
@ World's Lamest Critic: I totally agree with your argument normally, but this seems to have been a major issue and was covered significantly enough in the media to warrant inclusion. See: https://globalnews.ca/news/3368180/jian-ghomeshi-new-project-podcast/. Contqul ( talk) 19:25, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
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Please add his birthday. It is June 9. 2605:6000:1526:450B:2982:D9F7:CD8:41FA ( talk) 22:11, 29 August 2020 (UTC) https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/vancitybuzz-chats-with-jian-ghomeshi https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3416416 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:1526:450B:2982:D9F7:CD8:41FA ( talk) 22:21, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
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Other aspects of his racial or ethnic is included, why is his Jewishness ignored? This is a blemish on this biography.
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