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You did well to remove that comment, since Jersey Dutch was NOT modern Dutch and the term Duits was used to describe both Dutch and Germans in it (leg duits = Jersey Dutch, Hoog Duits = German), the word "Hess" (Hessian) also meant German, but in a negative manner (ferdoomde Hess!). So, Neger Duits DID mean "Black" or "Negro Dutch." The article should also mention that Jerseduits was spoken in northern Essex county (north Newark, Belleville, Nutley, Bloomfield at least). 96.231.79.232 ( talk) 23:25, 6 February 2009 (UTC)Jerseduitser
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Duits means in German in modern Dutch, but as recently as WWII, it was a bit more ambiguous in usage, refering to both at times. This usage is still present in the Dutch national anthem. The reason the Pennsylvania Dutch are called Dutch, even though they have nothing to do with Holland, is because until the 19th century the English word Dutch, the Dutch word Duits, and the German word Deutsch still referred to Germanic peoples from northern contenental Europe without special national reference. There is some reference to this shift in meaning at Dietsch. -- Diderot 16:11, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
It is not certain that "Duitse bloed" in the anthem, means German. For in earlier days it was "dietsche bloed,"meaning that Willem van Oranje, was "one of the people." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.196.77.127 ( talk) 13:46, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
The German nativity of William of Orange was a special case. He inherited this title from his uncle Rene of Chalon, who belonged to the Dutch Nassaus. Ad43 ( talk) 09:05, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Could someone elaborate the relationship between Jersey Dutch and Pennsylvania Dutch? Did they arise as two different dialects or were they one language divided by a river? 70.15.116.59 ( talk) 17:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
The article claims a Zeelandic or even e West Flemish basis for this dialect. The Prodigal Son sample seems to point in the direction of Hollandic instead: h- is present, and so are diphthongs ij and ui. All these sounds are absent from Zeelandic and West Flemish, as they are from Zeelandic-based creole languages in the Caribbean. Moreover, West Flemish speakers had little opportunity to settle in or around New Amsterdam in the 17th century, since they lived in the Spanish Netherlands, not in the Dutch Republic which undertook the colonisation. So where does this statement come from? Steinbach ( talk) 18:33, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
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This section is lacking, Neger is the dutch translation for a certain racist term starting with an 'N' also, Duits doesn't translate to dutch. It means German in dutch The JOJOLands ( talk) 08:03, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
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You did well to remove that comment, since Jersey Dutch was NOT modern Dutch and the term Duits was used to describe both Dutch and Germans in it (leg duits = Jersey Dutch, Hoog Duits = German), the word "Hess" (Hessian) also meant German, but in a negative manner (ferdoomde Hess!). So, Neger Duits DID mean "Black" or "Negro Dutch." The article should also mention that Jerseduits was spoken in northern Essex county (north Newark, Belleville, Nutley, Bloomfield at least). 96.231.79.232 ( talk) 23:25, 6 February 2009 (UTC)Jerseduitser
I removed the following:
Duits means in German in modern Dutch, but as recently as WWII, it was a bit more ambiguous in usage, refering to both at times. This usage is still present in the Dutch national anthem. The reason the Pennsylvania Dutch are called Dutch, even though they have nothing to do with Holland, is because until the 19th century the English word Dutch, the Dutch word Duits, and the German word Deutsch still referred to Germanic peoples from northern contenental Europe without special national reference. There is some reference to this shift in meaning at Dietsch. -- Diderot 16:11, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
It is not certain that "Duitse bloed" in the anthem, means German. For in earlier days it was "dietsche bloed,"meaning that Willem van Oranje, was "one of the people." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.196.77.127 ( talk) 13:46, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
The German nativity of William of Orange was a special case. He inherited this title from his uncle Rene of Chalon, who belonged to the Dutch Nassaus. Ad43 ( talk) 09:05, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Could someone elaborate the relationship between Jersey Dutch and Pennsylvania Dutch? Did they arise as two different dialects or were they one language divided by a river? 70.15.116.59 ( talk) 17:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
The article claims a Zeelandic or even e West Flemish basis for this dialect. The Prodigal Son sample seems to point in the direction of Hollandic instead: h- is present, and so are diphthongs ij and ui. All these sounds are absent from Zeelandic and West Flemish, as they are from Zeelandic-based creole languages in the Caribbean. Moreover, West Flemish speakers had little opportunity to settle in or around New Amsterdam in the 17th century, since they lived in the Spanish Netherlands, not in the Dutch Republic which undertook the colonisation. So where does this statement come from? Steinbach ( talk) 18:33, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
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This section is lacking, Neger is the dutch translation for a certain racist term starting with an 'N' also, Duits doesn't translate to dutch. It means German in dutch The JOJOLands ( talk) 08:03, 9 April 2023 (UTC)