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I don't understand the reasoning behind the question-and-answer format, and the article does not seem to explain it. Here is a typical example:
Host: "In 1908 in this city U.S. flag-bearer Ralph Rose caused controversy by not lowering the flag when passing the king."
Contestant: "What is London?"
The first sentence isn't a grammatically correct answer to the question. Most of the questions and responses that I've seen seem equally illogical. Is there some secret ingredient that I'm missing, or some piece of knowledge that makes it all make sense? (Oh, by the way, I had never heard of this show before all the recent news stories, so I have no background knowledge of it.) 109.153.232.195 ( talk) 15:03, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
PS: I have just noticed a related discussion above. I completely agree with the poster who says "It's just that for someone introduced to the show now, it seems to make no sense whatsoever as the forced-question format is nonsensical for a large number of questions." Has anyone tried to address this in the article? 109.153.232.195 ( talk) 15:08, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
The article's infobox states there is a 66-game disparity in the episode count, but the Jeopardy!#1984–present, syndicated section states there is a 67-game disparity. Which is correct? Ѕōŧŧōľäċqǔä ( talk) 18:02, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Also missed out of this article is the references from Stephen King's short story 'The Moving Finger' in his collection 'Nightmares and Dreamscapes'. In the save vein as the story mentioned below, the show is key in the telling of the story. The protagonist talks about the show almost all the way through the story, and it ends with him saying "Final Jeopardy, Officer. How much do you wish to wager?" It is a clear reference and deserves to be part of this article. KnuXles ( talk) 20:58, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
I don't know of any Jeopardy! version on the Dutch television in the Netherlands. Yes, quizzes of course, but nothing specifically like this. Why is the country colored yellow in the map? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdruiter ( talk • contribs) 13:48, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
It says "The IBM Challenge, aired February 14–16, 2011, featured IBM's Watson computer facing off against two former Jeopardy! champions, Ken Jennings and Brad Rutter, in a two-game match played over three shows.[29] This was the first man-vs.-machine competition in Jeopardy!'s history.[30] Watson locked up the first game and the match to win $1 million, which IBM divided between two charities. Jennings, who won $300,000 for second place, and Rutter, who won the $200,000 third-place prize, both pledged to donate half their winnings to charity.[31] The competition brought the show its highest ratings since the Ultimate Tournament of Champions.[32]"
In NYT [ [1]] it reads "The final tally was $77,147 to Mr. Jennings’s $24,000 and Mr. Rutter’s $21,600."
How come?? -- 83.46.109.86 ( talk) 10:27, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
I edited the article to be less sexist by replacing the infamous "him or her" with a neutral "them" in the sentence which was originally written as "(...) and gives him or her (...)" Marceki111 ( talk) 10:41, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
The April 30, 1993 issue of the Enquirer had a story based on Harry Eisenberg's book to the effect that the boards were rigged by George Bosburgh to favor women contestants. That would certainly fit my own experience, which took place during the years when that is alleged to have taken place. The 1993 version of that book, Inside Jeopardy!: What Really Goes on at TV's Top Quiz Show, is the source of that allegation, and it was omitted from the 1995 edition (I have both).
Shouldn't this controversy be addressed in the article? It goes far beyond rumor. Solarbuddy ( talk) 19:54, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Click on the link in my paragraph and see for yourself. It is all spelled out in Eisenberg's own words in his 1993 book. Solarbuddy ( talk) 15:37, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
I have the book (both editions). IMO the Eisenberg controversy is not of sufficient impact to merit coverage in this article--it would basically be one sentence of trivia. It didn't result in a standards & practices investigation or a major shakeup--at least, none that was publicized. Robert K S ( talk) 01:19, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
Jeopardy!#Returning champions states that "Ken Jennings ...amassed a total of $2,520,700" while the same section is accompanied by a picture subtitled "... Ken Jennings ... won a total of $3,172,700 on the show ...". Obviously, only (at most) one of these contradictory figures can be correct.
-- 87.175.62.2 ( talk) 00:43, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Instead of changing, undoing, redoing, and reverting changes to the Theme music composer section of the infobox, let's instead find a source for these claims. If we can't find solid references, then the controvercial unsourced information will have to be deleted altogether—a situation I'd like to avoid, if possible. Let's back up our claims, everyone, and keep it civil. — LinkTiger ( talk) 01:40, 2 January 2012 (UTC).
Hi, per previous discussions
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Jeopardy!/Archive_3#Format_of_questions_and_answers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jeopardy!/Archive_2#What_is_Jeopardy.3F
the format of questions and answers in this game is confusing to people unfamiliar with it, and is not adequately explained in the article. I made this edit, but it was immediately reverted even though "probably true". Please can we try to agree some suitable wording to explain this. 86.160.221.234 ( talk) 21:27, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
PS, see the linked piece at http://theangrytiki.com/2009/06/jeopardy-is-really-really-stupid.html for a list of examples of exactly what the problem is, and ample evidence that the stock explanation that the contestants supply a question to fit a given answer just does not hold water. 86.160.221.234 ( talk) 21:41, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
From Jeopardy!#Phrasing and judging: "[Griffin] decided that the show should instead accept any correct response that was in question form."
The "answers" are not regularly referred to "answers" on the show; Trebek refers to them as "clues." Because of this, and based upon the detail in the phrasing and judging section, you can determine which response in question form would be ruled correct.
This edit that you made is essentially a duplication of what is already in Jeopardy!#Phrasing and judging; you just happened to place it in another section. Sottolacqua ( talk) 00:53, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
The "Returning Champions" section says Ken Jennings "holds the all-time records for total game show earnings." Doesn't that honor belong to Brad Rutter? Brauden ( talk) 09:41, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
I have been considering nominating this article for promotion to "Good article" status for the following reasons:
I want to consider whether other editors feel the same way about this article in its current state as I do now before I decide to nominate it for GA status. -- Seth Allen ( discussion/ contributions), Thursday, April 11, 2013, 16:55 UTC.
Do we really need to show both the 2002 set and its 2006 revision in the image of sets? After all, the 2006 set was just a minor revision to the 2002 set adapted for HD. I propose we remove the 2006 revision from the image and add in the 1985-1991 set. ANDROS1337 TALK 00:54, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
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I have taken care of all the dead links in this article. For the majority I used Internet Archive's "Wayback Machine", but for two links for which I could not retrieve archived versions, I simply eliminated their dead links, but retained the citations themselves. For those paragraphs that lacked citations when the article was quickfailed, I have added citations to such paragraphs.
I saw that one of the problems that led the article to be quickfailed was the article being too long. To do this, I condensed the "Merchandise" section to a basic summary (while simultaneously restoring the child article for merchandising, which I had unknowingly merged into the parent article months ago without allowing for discussion, on the grounds that it was not entirely comprised of original research - the Jeopardy! video games, for instance, are notable, as they had been discussed by a reliable source: IGN). I also removed unsourced cultural references from the "Portrayals in other media" section, and made various other edits and modifications. -- Seth Allen ( discussion/ contributions) 04:04, Monday, May 27, 2013 (UTC)
Seems like the naming of all of the producers and writers and directors etc... is a bit overwhelming and really harms the flow of the entry. Does anyone else think this is a bit of a distraction? Considered editing it down, but wanted to see what folks thought first. Andrew B ( talk) 04:00, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
Apart from the original insistence on correct grammar ('Who is..'), the article doesn't mention any rules about what's an acceptable answer. Presumably there are some. What stops 'What is one more than 5,279?' being accepted as an acceptable response to the original question about 5,280. It is just as correct as 'How many feet are there in a mile?' Lovingboth ( talk) 23:36, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
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Hello! I'm BrandonWu, and I'll be the reviewer for this article. I hope to work through the GA review in a time period for 7 days, and I'll get the review started very soon! Brandon (MrWooHoo) • Talk to Brandon! 17:59, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Note that there are two reviews other than this one. Here are the links: the first review, and the second review.
See below for the Source and Prose reviews. Brandon (MrWooHoo) • Talk to Brandon! 18:10, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
I am considering preparing this article for its third GA nomination, and I urge all responsible editors to check the verifiability and sources of this article's content one last time before I can resubmit this. If anyone has the Trebek and Barsocchini book, Harris's book, Richmond's book, Young's book, Jennings' book, or either of Eisenberg's books, I urge you all — READ THROUGH THESE BOOKS IN THEIR ENTIRETY and if any of the facts presented in this article is indeed presented in any of these books, CITE THE APPLICABLE PAGES, because I do not want ANY gameplay, personnel, production, or broadcast information presented without referencing. Some information about gameplay rules was possibly added in by anonymous IPs who do not understand or care about our verifiability or reliable sources policies, and I want to ensure that the article's verifiability is on the same level as that of the Wheel of Fortune article, which is itself a GA. -- Seth Allen ( discussion/ contributions), Saturday, February 8, 2014, 03:29 U.T.C.
Here are some pre-GAN comments:
I will leave it to the GA reviewer to go more in depth, but these are the only minor issues I've seen so far. -- Bentvfan54321 ( talk) 20:45, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Could someone upload a picture of the new 2013 30th anniversary set. Thanks. 174.23.193.1 ( talk) 23:31, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Needed. The set from 2013 was a significant remodeling of the 2009 set. There is a fairly major difference in between the sets. Tom the Bergeron ( talk) 23:03, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
I have removed two unsourced statements in the article suggesting that Alex is "expected" to retire in 2016. It may be that his contract extends through 2016 (or part of that year), but any speculation about his retirement is only that--speculation--and does not belong as a weasel-worded assertion about a vague "expectation." It has been reported that in his remarks at the conclusion of the Battle of the Decades tournament, producer Harry Friedman stated in no uncertain terms that the job is Alex's as long as he wants it, and Alex Trebek has not as of yet stated any intention to retire. If the statement is to return, it should be properly sourced and should state who is doing the expecting. My feeling, however, is that the statement should not return, absent some official announcement, as it provides no accurate factual detail to the reader. Robert K S ( talk) 18:43, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
I have to wonder about the accuracy of this statement in the Clue Crew section. Cheryl clues continued to air regularly into October 2008. (One anomalously aired as recently as January, 2011, but we can discount that as an outlier--a leftover.) I doubt the show's backlog of Cheryl recorded clues allowed them to keep airing them for an additional two years if she left the Clue Crew in 2006. Furthermore, Cheryl recorded clues of the Walking with Dinosaurs exhibition, which didn't begin to tour North America until 2007. Furthermore, this 2007 press release indicates that Cheryl "return[ed] for her seventh season," which would have been Season 24 (being that the Clue Crew was introduced in Season 18), and Season 24 ran from 2007-2008. Cheryl's resume states that she was with the show for seven years, and that would have been 2001-2008. Still further, I have a clear memory of discussing Cheryl's departure from the show on the official Jeopardy! Message Board back in October 2008, which memory is corroborated by the Internet Archive backup of the message board index from that time (although I think the thread has been obliterated). I think it's pretty clear that Cheryl was with the show until at least the end of 2007, and maybe didn't leave until sometime in 2008. Jon Cannon's clues continued to air regularly into June 2009, but I suppose that doesn't rule out a late 2008 departure date for Jon. As for Cheryl, I think the evidence shows 2006 is clearly wrong. Robert K S ( talk) 21:37, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
I'm puzzled by this: "Only three contestants on pre-2002 episodes of the Trebek version won a game with the lowest amount possible ($1)." I'm guessing that the "pre-2002" distinction is because of the 2002 change where runners-up now receive at least $1,000, but I don't see why that's relevant to the matter of the winner's score. Are there post-2002 episodes where the winner won with only a dollar? If nobody knows, I'd recommend changing it to just say "At least three contestants on the Trebek version have won a game with the lowest amount possible ($1)." Or am I missing some other reason for the pre-2002 distinction? Theoldsparkle ( talk) 15:29, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
I just made a bunch of revisions to the article. Most of my changes were either minor rewording of the text, or rearranging the information in what seemed to me a more logical manner. I did very little adding or subtracting of information. I've described my rationale for some of my more significant changes below; my intention for any other changes I made can be assumed to be improvement to the article's clarity or aesthetics, or occasionally removing what seemed to be trivial detail. I hope I haven't stepped on anyone's toes.
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I don't understand the following sentence: "The total cash winnings of the daily syndicated version's champions were originally limited to $75,000, but this limit was increased to $200,000 at the start of the 14th syndicated season in 1997." I cut this in good faith and it has been reverted. I see three problems with this sentence:
1. Correct me if I'm wrong but in the discussion above for preparing the article for GA nomination, someone asks if this sentence can can be verified. Another editor writes "I merely made a guess." Another answers, "Richmond dismisses the winnings limits altogether." Yet this sentence remains in the otherwise Good article.
2. If pre-1997 winnings were limited to $75,000, how does one explain how Frank Spangenberg won $102,000 in Season 6? And he's not alone. See this screenshot File:Jeopardywinnersscreenshot2002.png, taken from [2] (contestants > winners list).
3. The claim is unverifiable from the source, unless someone can present the video of this episode.
I summarized this in my edit summary when I removed the sentence. Please explain why the edit was reverted. Thank you. PorkHeart ( talk) 17:12, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Harry Eisenberg discusses the $75,000 barrier rule on p. 256 of the first edition of his book. Bob Blake was the first to exceed it with $82,501 in winnings, the excess $7,501 donated to Oxfam of Canada. Spangenberg donated his excess $47,597 to the Sisters of Charity for repair of their Manhattan hospice. Robert K S ( talk) 23:07, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
In this edit, the article's infobox was changed to add an unreferenced comment that the 7,000th episode aired 6 February 2014. However, an ABC news press release gives 13 June 2014 as the 6,829th episode of the version that began in 1984. Since this link clearly shows an episode count and meets WP:V, please do not alter the episode count in the infobox without including a proper source. Also, please do not manually adjust episode counts accounting for a purported disparity based upon sources by authors Richmond or Eisenberg, since manually adjusting a sourced figure provided in an earlier reference does not meet WP:V. AldezD ( talk) 20:55, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Because I find absurd the confusion and controversy relating to reliably sourcing episode counts, I have written this essay:
In a nutshell, routinely updating the episode count should not pose a problem, because all of the information needed to routinely calculate new episode counts is already reliably sourced in the article, and routine calculation is not, by definition, original research. Robert K S ( talk) 18:37, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Please stop removing instructions embedded in WP:COMMENT format regarding the episode count featured in the infobox. The comments—as well as the discussion in above sections of this article's talk page—are there to inform editors why certain figures are listed. AldezD ( talk) 15:44, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
I can't find anything in the article about this, just stuff about the finished product as broadcast, which is presumably somewhat different to what happens in the studio. Are episodes recorded in batches (i.e. multiple per day) or one per day ? How long does an episode take to record ? What time of day is it recorded ? How big is the studio audience and how do they get in ? Delay between recording and broadcast ? What's in it for most contestants, who would appear to make nothing out of it after travel, accommodation & expenses are factored against small winnings ? What does the studio audience actually see happening ? Does stuff happen in the recording that doesn't get broadcast ? Rcbutcher ( talk) 15:51, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
This Nerdist Podcast with Alex Trebek and this Onion AV Club interview with Jeopardy! head writer Billy Wisse may helpful to source some of the above detail. Robert K S ( talk) 12:36, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
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I think this line needs expanding:
Jeopardy! has also gained a worldwide following with regional adaptations in many other countries.
What other countries have had versions of Jeopardy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.250.219 ( talk) 00:08, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
The article in the audio format says Stereo. The correct result is Art Fleming's version was in mono. The Trebek run is in stereo. A WP mod said there is no source. Well, prior to 1984, all show's have mono sound. So I think the audio format needs to be corrected. ACMEWikiNet ( talk) 23:44, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
I'm posting as IP, since I don't want to associate my WP editor account with my multiday Jeopardy championship.
There is not a single source of information on the entire Internet that is more accurate in regards to contestants, clues, and amounts won. It does not matter that you consider it a "fansite"; that is nonsensical since it clearly is carefully researched and documented. Only people who care about the topic would be so thorough.
If anyone can point out any significant errors or bias on j-archive, go ahead, but otherwise, I am going to start citing it as RS. 107.188.28.209 ( talk) 02:46, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
For the record, the same can be said of Fikkle Fame. Andy Saunders ( talk) 17:12, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Please stop changing the num_episodes value in the infobox to 7,500 without adding an appropriate WP:V source. The current source tagged to that number, <ref name="Jeopardy 7000th Episode minisite"/>, does not provide WP:V count of 7,500 episodes. AldezD ( talk) 11:27, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
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"...is the only post-1960 game show to be honored with the Peabody Award."
and
"...it holds the distinction of being the only game show since 1960 to win the Peabody Award."
Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? won that award about two decades earlier. Or are we not including children's shows? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GVO8891 ( talk • contribs) 00:11, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
During the 1978-1979 run ("The All-New Jeopardy!"), a different endgame was used in place of Final Jeopardy. You can see that endgame at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtDPxZZdFwM ; seems like this short-lived variation deserves at least a mention in the Gameplay section -- Heath 184.170.76.239 ( talk) 16:09, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
The article uses the terms "host" and "announcer" several times, but never defines them. The "Gameplay" section mentions what the host does, but not what the announcer does. I have linked these terms to game show host and announcer, but their functions still aren't clear. Can someone clarify? -- Macrakis ( talk) 17:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
Added description of duties. AldezD ( talk) 17:29, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
I think it would be a good idea to have a box by all the stats displaying the current champion, the number of games won, and their cash winnings. ThatOneDude11 ( talk) 22:47, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Does anyone think there should be something added about the show currently not being produced due to the pandemic? I think it has to do with production and would be a good addition to the article. Wjrz nj forecast ( talk) 21:52, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Please stop adding content using passive voice, which is inconsistent with the verb tense used throughout the article. This is not in line with MOS:VERB, which states: "By default, write articles in the present tense... However, articles about periodicals that are no longer being produced should normally, and with commonsense exceptions, use the past tense."
Additionally, Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Clarity#Use of the passive voice recommends "that it be used sparingly".
"Was announced" is passive voice. "An April 2021 announcement listed" is written in the past tense.
Please follow WP guidelines.
Thank you. AldezD ( talk) 13:16, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Presenter parameter in Template:Infobox television is for "The show's presenters or hosts. Presenters are listed in original credit order followed by order in which new presenters joined the show. Years or seasons should not be included." Temporary/guest hosts are not included, similarly to how guest hosts are not included in the infobox for The Tonight Show. Please stop adding guest hosts to the Jeopardy! article infobox. AldezD ( talk) 03:33, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
With the recent news from today regarding Mike being picked as host, I would suggest we wait until the official announcement is released before adding in any information about who the permanent host ends up being. At this point, these articles seem to just be 'what a insider source is saying' and reads off like it could certainly change. Might (?) be worth mentioning the initial reporting from today when the official announcement news is put out, but don't think we need to add this current info in at the moment. As the Deadline article says, "Sony Pictures Television is expected to make an official announcement in the next few days."- I think we can wait... Magitroopa ( talk) 01:21, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
Have there been any "special episodes of the show" hosted by anyone other than Fleming or Trebek? If so, those hosts should either be included or Bialik removed for consistency IMO. Bahooka ( talk) 01:44, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Should Mike be included in the infobox as an official presenter? Granted, he was officially announced as one of the permanent hosts, but I think this should be contingent upon whether he is introduced as such (vs. as a "guest host") when his episodes air in September. Personally, I think his name should be removed from the infobox until we know for sure. -- Bp0413 ( talk) 02:52, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
From the production team of the show—not from what the announcer or his copy says. I don't know or understand why you are calling a reference which meets WP:V "so-called". AldezD ( talk) 21:54, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Why are they listed in the infobox when other guest hosts are not listed Lunacats ( talk) 16:21, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
I just wanted to let everyone know that I have started working on a Spoken Wikipedia recording. Thanks! Camshaft64 ( Talk | Contributions) 20:07, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
I haven't seen a top 10 list (pick any cut-off you wish) anywhere in the jeopardy articles.........main page, notable contestants, etc. We speak about all these great contestants, but nowhere do I see a list of top regular game dollar winners, top all-game dollar winners, most consecutive game winners etc. BumbleBum ( talk) 02:46, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
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I don't understand the reasoning behind the question-and-answer format, and the article does not seem to explain it. Here is a typical example:
Host: "In 1908 in this city U.S. flag-bearer Ralph Rose caused controversy by not lowering the flag when passing the king."
Contestant: "What is London?"
The first sentence isn't a grammatically correct answer to the question. Most of the questions and responses that I've seen seem equally illogical. Is there some secret ingredient that I'm missing, or some piece of knowledge that makes it all make sense? (Oh, by the way, I had never heard of this show before all the recent news stories, so I have no background knowledge of it.) 109.153.232.195 ( talk) 15:03, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
PS: I have just noticed a related discussion above. I completely agree with the poster who says "It's just that for someone introduced to the show now, it seems to make no sense whatsoever as the forced-question format is nonsensical for a large number of questions." Has anyone tried to address this in the article? 109.153.232.195 ( talk) 15:08, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
The article's infobox states there is a 66-game disparity in the episode count, but the Jeopardy!#1984–present, syndicated section states there is a 67-game disparity. Which is correct? Ѕōŧŧōľäċqǔä ( talk) 18:02, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Also missed out of this article is the references from Stephen King's short story 'The Moving Finger' in his collection 'Nightmares and Dreamscapes'. In the save vein as the story mentioned below, the show is key in the telling of the story. The protagonist talks about the show almost all the way through the story, and it ends with him saying "Final Jeopardy, Officer. How much do you wish to wager?" It is a clear reference and deserves to be part of this article. KnuXles ( talk) 20:58, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
I don't know of any Jeopardy! version on the Dutch television in the Netherlands. Yes, quizzes of course, but nothing specifically like this. Why is the country colored yellow in the map? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdruiter ( talk • contribs) 13:48, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
It says "The IBM Challenge, aired February 14–16, 2011, featured IBM's Watson computer facing off against two former Jeopardy! champions, Ken Jennings and Brad Rutter, in a two-game match played over three shows.[29] This was the first man-vs.-machine competition in Jeopardy!'s history.[30] Watson locked up the first game and the match to win $1 million, which IBM divided between two charities. Jennings, who won $300,000 for second place, and Rutter, who won the $200,000 third-place prize, both pledged to donate half their winnings to charity.[31] The competition brought the show its highest ratings since the Ultimate Tournament of Champions.[32]"
In NYT [ [1]] it reads "The final tally was $77,147 to Mr. Jennings’s $24,000 and Mr. Rutter’s $21,600."
How come?? -- 83.46.109.86 ( talk) 10:27, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
I edited the article to be less sexist by replacing the infamous "him or her" with a neutral "them" in the sentence which was originally written as "(...) and gives him or her (...)" Marceki111 ( talk) 10:41, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
The April 30, 1993 issue of the Enquirer had a story based on Harry Eisenberg's book to the effect that the boards were rigged by George Bosburgh to favor women contestants. That would certainly fit my own experience, which took place during the years when that is alleged to have taken place. The 1993 version of that book, Inside Jeopardy!: What Really Goes on at TV's Top Quiz Show, is the source of that allegation, and it was omitted from the 1995 edition (I have both).
Shouldn't this controversy be addressed in the article? It goes far beyond rumor. Solarbuddy ( talk) 19:54, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Click on the link in my paragraph and see for yourself. It is all spelled out in Eisenberg's own words in his 1993 book. Solarbuddy ( talk) 15:37, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
I have the book (both editions). IMO the Eisenberg controversy is not of sufficient impact to merit coverage in this article--it would basically be one sentence of trivia. It didn't result in a standards & practices investigation or a major shakeup--at least, none that was publicized. Robert K S ( talk) 01:19, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
Jeopardy!#Returning champions states that "Ken Jennings ...amassed a total of $2,520,700" while the same section is accompanied by a picture subtitled "... Ken Jennings ... won a total of $3,172,700 on the show ...". Obviously, only (at most) one of these contradictory figures can be correct.
-- 87.175.62.2 ( talk) 00:43, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Instead of changing, undoing, redoing, and reverting changes to the Theme music composer section of the infobox, let's instead find a source for these claims. If we can't find solid references, then the controvercial unsourced information will have to be deleted altogether—a situation I'd like to avoid, if possible. Let's back up our claims, everyone, and keep it civil. — LinkTiger ( talk) 01:40, 2 January 2012 (UTC).
Hi, per previous discussions
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Jeopardy!/Archive_3#Format_of_questions_and_answers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jeopardy!/Archive_2#What_is_Jeopardy.3F
the format of questions and answers in this game is confusing to people unfamiliar with it, and is not adequately explained in the article. I made this edit, but it was immediately reverted even though "probably true". Please can we try to agree some suitable wording to explain this. 86.160.221.234 ( talk) 21:27, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
PS, see the linked piece at http://theangrytiki.com/2009/06/jeopardy-is-really-really-stupid.html for a list of examples of exactly what the problem is, and ample evidence that the stock explanation that the contestants supply a question to fit a given answer just does not hold water. 86.160.221.234 ( talk) 21:41, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
From Jeopardy!#Phrasing and judging: "[Griffin] decided that the show should instead accept any correct response that was in question form."
The "answers" are not regularly referred to "answers" on the show; Trebek refers to them as "clues." Because of this, and based upon the detail in the phrasing and judging section, you can determine which response in question form would be ruled correct.
This edit that you made is essentially a duplication of what is already in Jeopardy!#Phrasing and judging; you just happened to place it in another section. Sottolacqua ( talk) 00:53, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
The "Returning Champions" section says Ken Jennings "holds the all-time records for total game show earnings." Doesn't that honor belong to Brad Rutter? Brauden ( talk) 09:41, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
I have been considering nominating this article for promotion to "Good article" status for the following reasons:
I want to consider whether other editors feel the same way about this article in its current state as I do now before I decide to nominate it for GA status. -- Seth Allen ( discussion/ contributions), Thursday, April 11, 2013, 16:55 UTC.
Do we really need to show both the 2002 set and its 2006 revision in the image of sets? After all, the 2006 set was just a minor revision to the 2002 set adapted for HD. I propose we remove the 2006 revision from the image and add in the 1985-1991 set. ANDROS1337 TALK 00:54, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
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I have taken care of all the dead links in this article. For the majority I used Internet Archive's "Wayback Machine", but for two links for which I could not retrieve archived versions, I simply eliminated their dead links, but retained the citations themselves. For those paragraphs that lacked citations when the article was quickfailed, I have added citations to such paragraphs.
I saw that one of the problems that led the article to be quickfailed was the article being too long. To do this, I condensed the "Merchandise" section to a basic summary (while simultaneously restoring the child article for merchandising, which I had unknowingly merged into the parent article months ago without allowing for discussion, on the grounds that it was not entirely comprised of original research - the Jeopardy! video games, for instance, are notable, as they had been discussed by a reliable source: IGN). I also removed unsourced cultural references from the "Portrayals in other media" section, and made various other edits and modifications. -- Seth Allen ( discussion/ contributions) 04:04, Monday, May 27, 2013 (UTC)
Seems like the naming of all of the producers and writers and directors etc... is a bit overwhelming and really harms the flow of the entry. Does anyone else think this is a bit of a distraction? Considered editing it down, but wanted to see what folks thought first. Andrew B ( talk) 04:00, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
Apart from the original insistence on correct grammar ('Who is..'), the article doesn't mention any rules about what's an acceptable answer. Presumably there are some. What stops 'What is one more than 5,279?' being accepted as an acceptable response to the original question about 5,280. It is just as correct as 'How many feet are there in a mile?' Lovingboth ( talk) 23:36, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
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Hello! I'm BrandonWu, and I'll be the reviewer for this article. I hope to work through the GA review in a time period for 7 days, and I'll get the review started very soon! Brandon (MrWooHoo) • Talk to Brandon! 17:59, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Note that there are two reviews other than this one. Here are the links: the first review, and the second review.
See below for the Source and Prose reviews. Brandon (MrWooHoo) • Talk to Brandon! 18:10, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
I am considering preparing this article for its third GA nomination, and I urge all responsible editors to check the verifiability and sources of this article's content one last time before I can resubmit this. If anyone has the Trebek and Barsocchini book, Harris's book, Richmond's book, Young's book, Jennings' book, or either of Eisenberg's books, I urge you all — READ THROUGH THESE BOOKS IN THEIR ENTIRETY and if any of the facts presented in this article is indeed presented in any of these books, CITE THE APPLICABLE PAGES, because I do not want ANY gameplay, personnel, production, or broadcast information presented without referencing. Some information about gameplay rules was possibly added in by anonymous IPs who do not understand or care about our verifiability or reliable sources policies, and I want to ensure that the article's verifiability is on the same level as that of the Wheel of Fortune article, which is itself a GA. -- Seth Allen ( discussion/ contributions), Saturday, February 8, 2014, 03:29 U.T.C.
Here are some pre-GAN comments:
I will leave it to the GA reviewer to go more in depth, but these are the only minor issues I've seen so far. -- Bentvfan54321 ( talk) 20:45, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Could someone upload a picture of the new 2013 30th anniversary set. Thanks. 174.23.193.1 ( talk) 23:31, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Needed. The set from 2013 was a significant remodeling of the 2009 set. There is a fairly major difference in between the sets. Tom the Bergeron ( talk) 23:03, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
I have removed two unsourced statements in the article suggesting that Alex is "expected" to retire in 2016. It may be that his contract extends through 2016 (or part of that year), but any speculation about his retirement is only that--speculation--and does not belong as a weasel-worded assertion about a vague "expectation." It has been reported that in his remarks at the conclusion of the Battle of the Decades tournament, producer Harry Friedman stated in no uncertain terms that the job is Alex's as long as he wants it, and Alex Trebek has not as of yet stated any intention to retire. If the statement is to return, it should be properly sourced and should state who is doing the expecting. My feeling, however, is that the statement should not return, absent some official announcement, as it provides no accurate factual detail to the reader. Robert K S ( talk) 18:43, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
I have to wonder about the accuracy of this statement in the Clue Crew section. Cheryl clues continued to air regularly into October 2008. (One anomalously aired as recently as January, 2011, but we can discount that as an outlier--a leftover.) I doubt the show's backlog of Cheryl recorded clues allowed them to keep airing them for an additional two years if she left the Clue Crew in 2006. Furthermore, Cheryl recorded clues of the Walking with Dinosaurs exhibition, which didn't begin to tour North America until 2007. Furthermore, this 2007 press release indicates that Cheryl "return[ed] for her seventh season," which would have been Season 24 (being that the Clue Crew was introduced in Season 18), and Season 24 ran from 2007-2008. Cheryl's resume states that she was with the show for seven years, and that would have been 2001-2008. Still further, I have a clear memory of discussing Cheryl's departure from the show on the official Jeopardy! Message Board back in October 2008, which memory is corroborated by the Internet Archive backup of the message board index from that time (although I think the thread has been obliterated). I think it's pretty clear that Cheryl was with the show until at least the end of 2007, and maybe didn't leave until sometime in 2008. Jon Cannon's clues continued to air regularly into June 2009, but I suppose that doesn't rule out a late 2008 departure date for Jon. As for Cheryl, I think the evidence shows 2006 is clearly wrong. Robert K S ( talk) 21:37, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
I'm puzzled by this: "Only three contestants on pre-2002 episodes of the Trebek version won a game with the lowest amount possible ($1)." I'm guessing that the "pre-2002" distinction is because of the 2002 change where runners-up now receive at least $1,000, but I don't see why that's relevant to the matter of the winner's score. Are there post-2002 episodes where the winner won with only a dollar? If nobody knows, I'd recommend changing it to just say "At least three contestants on the Trebek version have won a game with the lowest amount possible ($1)." Or am I missing some other reason for the pre-2002 distinction? Theoldsparkle ( talk) 15:29, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
I just made a bunch of revisions to the article. Most of my changes were either minor rewording of the text, or rearranging the information in what seemed to me a more logical manner. I did very little adding or subtracting of information. I've described my rationale for some of my more significant changes below; my intention for any other changes I made can be assumed to be improvement to the article's clarity or aesthetics, or occasionally removing what seemed to be trivial detail. I hope I haven't stepped on anyone's toes.
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I don't understand the following sentence: "The total cash winnings of the daily syndicated version's champions were originally limited to $75,000, but this limit was increased to $200,000 at the start of the 14th syndicated season in 1997." I cut this in good faith and it has been reverted. I see three problems with this sentence:
1. Correct me if I'm wrong but in the discussion above for preparing the article for GA nomination, someone asks if this sentence can can be verified. Another editor writes "I merely made a guess." Another answers, "Richmond dismisses the winnings limits altogether." Yet this sentence remains in the otherwise Good article.
2. If pre-1997 winnings were limited to $75,000, how does one explain how Frank Spangenberg won $102,000 in Season 6? And he's not alone. See this screenshot File:Jeopardywinnersscreenshot2002.png, taken from [2] (contestants > winners list).
3. The claim is unverifiable from the source, unless someone can present the video of this episode.
I summarized this in my edit summary when I removed the sentence. Please explain why the edit was reverted. Thank you. PorkHeart ( talk) 17:12, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Harry Eisenberg discusses the $75,000 barrier rule on p. 256 of the first edition of his book. Bob Blake was the first to exceed it with $82,501 in winnings, the excess $7,501 donated to Oxfam of Canada. Spangenberg donated his excess $47,597 to the Sisters of Charity for repair of their Manhattan hospice. Robert K S ( talk) 23:07, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
In this edit, the article's infobox was changed to add an unreferenced comment that the 7,000th episode aired 6 February 2014. However, an ABC news press release gives 13 June 2014 as the 6,829th episode of the version that began in 1984. Since this link clearly shows an episode count and meets WP:V, please do not alter the episode count in the infobox without including a proper source. Also, please do not manually adjust episode counts accounting for a purported disparity based upon sources by authors Richmond or Eisenberg, since manually adjusting a sourced figure provided in an earlier reference does not meet WP:V. AldezD ( talk) 20:55, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Because I find absurd the confusion and controversy relating to reliably sourcing episode counts, I have written this essay:
In a nutshell, routinely updating the episode count should not pose a problem, because all of the information needed to routinely calculate new episode counts is already reliably sourced in the article, and routine calculation is not, by definition, original research. Robert K S ( talk) 18:37, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Please stop removing instructions embedded in WP:COMMENT format regarding the episode count featured in the infobox. The comments—as well as the discussion in above sections of this article's talk page—are there to inform editors why certain figures are listed. AldezD ( talk) 15:44, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
I can't find anything in the article about this, just stuff about the finished product as broadcast, which is presumably somewhat different to what happens in the studio. Are episodes recorded in batches (i.e. multiple per day) or one per day ? How long does an episode take to record ? What time of day is it recorded ? How big is the studio audience and how do they get in ? Delay between recording and broadcast ? What's in it for most contestants, who would appear to make nothing out of it after travel, accommodation & expenses are factored against small winnings ? What does the studio audience actually see happening ? Does stuff happen in the recording that doesn't get broadcast ? Rcbutcher ( talk) 15:51, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
This Nerdist Podcast with Alex Trebek and this Onion AV Club interview with Jeopardy! head writer Billy Wisse may helpful to source some of the above detail. Robert K S ( talk) 12:36, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
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I think this line needs expanding:
Jeopardy! has also gained a worldwide following with regional adaptations in many other countries.
What other countries have had versions of Jeopardy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.250.219 ( talk) 00:08, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
The article in the audio format says Stereo. The correct result is Art Fleming's version was in mono. The Trebek run is in stereo. A WP mod said there is no source. Well, prior to 1984, all show's have mono sound. So I think the audio format needs to be corrected. ACMEWikiNet ( talk) 23:44, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
I'm posting as IP, since I don't want to associate my WP editor account with my multiday Jeopardy championship.
There is not a single source of information on the entire Internet that is more accurate in regards to contestants, clues, and amounts won. It does not matter that you consider it a "fansite"; that is nonsensical since it clearly is carefully researched and documented. Only people who care about the topic would be so thorough.
If anyone can point out any significant errors or bias on j-archive, go ahead, but otherwise, I am going to start citing it as RS. 107.188.28.209 ( talk) 02:46, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
For the record, the same can be said of Fikkle Fame. Andy Saunders ( talk) 17:12, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
Please stop changing the num_episodes value in the infobox to 7,500 without adding an appropriate WP:V source. The current source tagged to that number, <ref name="Jeopardy 7000th Episode minisite"/>, does not provide WP:V count of 7,500 episodes. AldezD ( talk) 11:27, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
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"...is the only post-1960 game show to be honored with the Peabody Award."
and
"...it holds the distinction of being the only game show since 1960 to win the Peabody Award."
Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? won that award about two decades earlier. Or are we not including children's shows? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GVO8891 ( talk • contribs) 00:11, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
During the 1978-1979 run ("The All-New Jeopardy!"), a different endgame was used in place of Final Jeopardy. You can see that endgame at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtDPxZZdFwM ; seems like this short-lived variation deserves at least a mention in the Gameplay section -- Heath 184.170.76.239 ( talk) 16:09, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
The article uses the terms "host" and "announcer" several times, but never defines them. The "Gameplay" section mentions what the host does, but not what the announcer does. I have linked these terms to game show host and announcer, but their functions still aren't clear. Can someone clarify? -- Macrakis ( talk) 17:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
Added description of duties. AldezD ( talk) 17:29, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
I think it would be a good idea to have a box by all the stats displaying the current champion, the number of games won, and their cash winnings. ThatOneDude11 ( talk) 22:47, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Does anyone think there should be something added about the show currently not being produced due to the pandemic? I think it has to do with production and would be a good addition to the article. Wjrz nj forecast ( talk) 21:52, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Please stop adding content using passive voice, which is inconsistent with the verb tense used throughout the article. This is not in line with MOS:VERB, which states: "By default, write articles in the present tense... However, articles about periodicals that are no longer being produced should normally, and with commonsense exceptions, use the past tense."
Additionally, Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Clarity#Use of the passive voice recommends "that it be used sparingly".
"Was announced" is passive voice. "An April 2021 announcement listed" is written in the past tense.
Please follow WP guidelines.
Thank you. AldezD ( talk) 13:16, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Presenter parameter in Template:Infobox television is for "The show's presenters or hosts. Presenters are listed in original credit order followed by order in which new presenters joined the show. Years or seasons should not be included." Temporary/guest hosts are not included, similarly to how guest hosts are not included in the infobox for The Tonight Show. Please stop adding guest hosts to the Jeopardy! article infobox. AldezD ( talk) 03:33, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
With the recent news from today regarding Mike being picked as host, I would suggest we wait until the official announcement is released before adding in any information about who the permanent host ends up being. At this point, these articles seem to just be 'what a insider source is saying' and reads off like it could certainly change. Might (?) be worth mentioning the initial reporting from today when the official announcement news is put out, but don't think we need to add this current info in at the moment. As the Deadline article says, "Sony Pictures Television is expected to make an official announcement in the next few days."- I think we can wait... Magitroopa ( talk) 01:21, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
Have there been any "special episodes of the show" hosted by anyone other than Fleming or Trebek? If so, those hosts should either be included or Bialik removed for consistency IMO. Bahooka ( talk) 01:44, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Should Mike be included in the infobox as an official presenter? Granted, he was officially announced as one of the permanent hosts, but I think this should be contingent upon whether he is introduced as such (vs. as a "guest host") when his episodes air in September. Personally, I think his name should be removed from the infobox until we know for sure. -- Bp0413 ( talk) 02:52, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
From the production team of the show—not from what the announcer or his copy says. I don't know or understand why you are calling a reference which meets WP:V "so-called". AldezD ( talk) 21:54, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Why are they listed in the infobox when other guest hosts are not listed Lunacats ( talk) 16:21, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
I just wanted to let everyone know that I have started working on a Spoken Wikipedia recording. Thanks! Camshaft64 ( Talk | Contributions) 20:07, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
I haven't seen a top 10 list (pick any cut-off you wish) anywhere in the jeopardy articles.........main page, notable contestants, etc. We speak about all these great contestants, but nowhere do I see a list of top regular game dollar winners, top all-game dollar winners, most consecutive game winners etc. BumbleBum ( talk) 02:46, 29 January 2022 (UTC)