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Hey, i created a category of pics of Jenolan caves at Commons, and added a few pics i had (of the river and imperial/diamond caves. Feel free to add them in here, or if you have your own Jenolan pics upload them to commons. The bellman 10:35, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
This article is identical to Jenolan Caves Information, which appears to be a mirror of the Wikipedia article, rather than the other way around (ie a copvio).-- Grahamec 04:07, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I believe the pool of cerberus cave was called the skeleton cave because of the skeleton of an aboriginal girl that used to be shown there (certainly when I first visited in the mid 1980s). It is no longer shown. I'm sure there are guidebooks from the period detailing this. Jghford 12:40, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
I added a section about the history of the area during an update about a year ago and it's been completely removed. I tried to view the history file to find out why, but have been unable to. What was the reason for removing this section as I would consider it to be pretty important? -- BrianFG 21:41, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
The second sentence of this section is asserts, "However, this is still a theory." Does this mean to say that it is still a theory that scientists estimated the age of this cave to be approximately 340 million years old, or that the method they used is still theoretical, or perhaps that the Earth is (still) not much older than 6000 years of normal time, and that any point much earlier must then be theoretical. Perhaps someone would like to include a passage from Genesis to support this statement? I think the rest of you know where I'm going with this...
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22:59, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't beleive the following statement could be geographically correct, what is the exact route of the origianl road?
"The road to the caves originally went in from Tarana, which meant that travellers from the south had to take a long, roundabout route of about 90 miles from Katoomba to Oberon, and, from there, to Tarana". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.19.130.241 ( talk) 05:52, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I found a pdf and a pdf link to cite "In 2008 and 2009, Jenolan Caves won several tourism awards, from Blue Mountains Tourism and NSW Tourism." The actual pdf is on <a href=" http://www.jenolancaves.org.au/imagesDB/wysiwyg/AnnualReport0809.pdf" >Link text</a> on page 3, and the link to it is <a href= http://www.jenolancaves.org.au/about/part-of-nsw-government/" >Link text</a> Can someone edit this in with references, etc. Richie2154 ( talk) 01:15, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Is it just me of does the "tourism" section seem a bit problematic relative to the " Wikipedia is not a travel guide" guidelines. While some of the content is relevant and valid, I don't think the article is the place to be referring to specific tour options, lengths, etc. A few examples should suffice. Further, the section is very scarce on references, and some of the content (in particular the inexplicable assertion about the "longest running school tour ever") is crying-out for decent references. Unless there are other opinions, I will likely undertake a review to summarise. Guliolopez ( talk) 13:41, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Until recently the article referred to the fact that there are several claims to the who/when/how of the caves' discovery. However, this "vagueness" factor was recently removed. And replaced with a single discovery theory. I have some concerns about this. Not least because the claim is based on one letter to a newspaper, from one "eye witness", that was published apparently FIFTY YEARS after the event. I don't think that this is strong enough to warrant excising all other theories - and leaving only the romantic "James Whalan was chasing a bushranger" legend. Even the official website includes Whalan, his brother(s) and McKeown in the discovery narrative. And doesn't attempt to pick a "single truth". As such, I'm not sure why we've decided to reference just the one theory. While the letter (and it's claim) should be referenced (and cited), I think that the some of the vagueness should remain. Thoughts? Guliolopez ( talk) 11:09, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Jenolan Caves/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Needs more in-line refs.-- Grahamec 04:07, 9 February 2007 (UTC) |
Last edited at 11:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 19:46, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
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Hey, i created a category of pics of Jenolan caves at Commons, and added a few pics i had (of the river and imperial/diamond caves. Feel free to add them in here, or if you have your own Jenolan pics upload them to commons. The bellman 10:35, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
This article is identical to Jenolan Caves Information, which appears to be a mirror of the Wikipedia article, rather than the other way around (ie a copvio).-- Grahamec 04:07, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I believe the pool of cerberus cave was called the skeleton cave because of the skeleton of an aboriginal girl that used to be shown there (certainly when I first visited in the mid 1980s). It is no longer shown. I'm sure there are guidebooks from the period detailing this. Jghford 12:40, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
I added a section about the history of the area during an update about a year ago and it's been completely removed. I tried to view the history file to find out why, but have been unable to. What was the reason for removing this section as I would consider it to be pretty important? -- BrianFG 21:41, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
The second sentence of this section is asserts, "However, this is still a theory." Does this mean to say that it is still a theory that scientists estimated the age of this cave to be approximately 340 million years old, or that the method they used is still theoretical, or perhaps that the Earth is (still) not much older than 6000 years of normal time, and that any point much earlier must then be theoretical. Perhaps someone would like to include a passage from Genesis to support this statement? I think the rest of you know where I'm going with this...
Jace1 (
talk)
22:59, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't beleive the following statement could be geographically correct, what is the exact route of the origianl road?
"The road to the caves originally went in from Tarana, which meant that travellers from the south had to take a long, roundabout route of about 90 miles from Katoomba to Oberon, and, from there, to Tarana". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.19.130.241 ( talk) 05:52, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
I found a pdf and a pdf link to cite "In 2008 and 2009, Jenolan Caves won several tourism awards, from Blue Mountains Tourism and NSW Tourism." The actual pdf is on <a href=" http://www.jenolancaves.org.au/imagesDB/wysiwyg/AnnualReport0809.pdf" >Link text</a> on page 3, and the link to it is <a href= http://www.jenolancaves.org.au/about/part-of-nsw-government/" >Link text</a> Can someone edit this in with references, etc. Richie2154 ( talk) 01:15, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Is it just me of does the "tourism" section seem a bit problematic relative to the " Wikipedia is not a travel guide" guidelines. While some of the content is relevant and valid, I don't think the article is the place to be referring to specific tour options, lengths, etc. A few examples should suffice. Further, the section is very scarce on references, and some of the content (in particular the inexplicable assertion about the "longest running school tour ever") is crying-out for decent references. Unless there are other opinions, I will likely undertake a review to summarise. Guliolopez ( talk) 13:41, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
Until recently the article referred to the fact that there are several claims to the who/when/how of the caves' discovery. However, this "vagueness" factor was recently removed. And replaced with a single discovery theory. I have some concerns about this. Not least because the claim is based on one letter to a newspaper, from one "eye witness", that was published apparently FIFTY YEARS after the event. I don't think that this is strong enough to warrant excising all other theories - and leaving only the romantic "James Whalan was chasing a bushranger" legend. Even the official website includes Whalan, his brother(s) and McKeown in the discovery narrative. And doesn't attempt to pick a "single truth". As such, I'm not sure why we've decided to reference just the one theory. While the letter (and it's claim) should be referenced (and cited), I think that the some of the vagueness should remain. Thoughts? Guliolopez ( talk) 11:09, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Jenolan Caves/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Needs more in-line refs.-- Grahamec 04:07, 9 February 2007 (UTC) |
Last edited at 11:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 19:46, 29 April 2016 (UTC)