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Reverted for the same reasons as discussed at Talk:Olivia_Trinidad_Arias and User_talk:BrainyBroad. It's bad form to effectively delete an article without consensus. A merger or deletion should be proposed and discussed first. -- kingboyk 10:15, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Here is a letter from the same date. I assume the liberties were taken by the translators--wild boar or teddy bear being idioms. In any case, this source should be used if that one is not cited. gren グレン 10:11, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Parts of this article (see http://www.visualstatistics.net/Catastrophe/Jenny%20Marx/Jenny%20Marx.htm ) violate copyright of Cruise Scientific and were removed. For further information contact info@visualstatistics.net.
The image we are using says "no higher resolution available". I just PMed The Marx He Knew for PG and there is a higher resolution image in it--but it's cracked paint, etc. I just want to point this out of someone wants to salvage it. gren グレン 18:59, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
I could have made an educated guess that this article would at one time have been nominated for deletion, and I see that it was in 2006. I am glad it was kept - she is quite a famous name. ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 12:51, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
Isn't it more common to refer to her as 'Jenny Marx'? Didn't she adopt her husband's surname? I'm not sure if they even had any legal choice in the matter at the time.-- 84.238.136.52 ( talk) 13:38, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
The sources do not corroborate that the family or father had the title baron (or the corresponding title of freiherr). The Ludwig von Westphalen article and sources confirm that they belonged to the lower nobility (knights). The German WP article ( https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipp_von_Westphalen) uses the title Edler for the recently ennobled grandfather Philipp Westphal i.e. Edler von Westphalen. Doctoral historian ( talk) 11:44, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Jenny von Westphalen's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Mehring2003":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 18:00, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
The reference to Burke's landed gentry of Great Britain, page 617 is null and void. I checked it randomly, from archives found the internet, and it confirmed that the source isn't locatable and doesn't have any bearing. It is simply the same as referring to Encyclopædia Britannica page 716, if you understand what I'm saying. It will not do, to go into the genealogical history of Jenny von Westphalen with loose ends and unsubstantiated claims. Doctoral historian ( talk) 18:57, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
All of the mentioned things are common knowledge in the biographies on Jenny von Westphalen or Karl Marx. So nothing out of the ordinary. Doctoral historian ( talk) 19:20, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
this should be remedied, there's no reason for dedicated socialist Jenny Marx to have only the headers Background, Marriage, Children, Death 104.158.4.161 ( talk) 20:25, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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Reverted for the same reasons as discussed at Talk:Olivia_Trinidad_Arias and User_talk:BrainyBroad. It's bad form to effectively delete an article without consensus. A merger or deletion should be proposed and discussed first. -- kingboyk 10:15, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Here is a letter from the same date. I assume the liberties were taken by the translators--wild boar or teddy bear being idioms. In any case, this source should be used if that one is not cited. gren グレン 10:11, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Parts of this article (see http://www.visualstatistics.net/Catastrophe/Jenny%20Marx/Jenny%20Marx.htm ) violate copyright of Cruise Scientific and were removed. For further information contact info@visualstatistics.net.
The image we are using says "no higher resolution available". I just PMed The Marx He Knew for PG and there is a higher resolution image in it--but it's cracked paint, etc. I just want to point this out of someone wants to salvage it. gren グレン 18:59, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
I could have made an educated guess that this article would at one time have been nominated for deletion, and I see that it was in 2006. I am glad it was kept - she is quite a famous name. ACEOREVIVED ( talk) 12:51, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
Isn't it more common to refer to her as 'Jenny Marx'? Didn't she adopt her husband's surname? I'm not sure if they even had any legal choice in the matter at the time.-- 84.238.136.52 ( talk) 13:38, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
The sources do not corroborate that the family or father had the title baron (or the corresponding title of freiherr). The Ludwig von Westphalen article and sources confirm that they belonged to the lower nobility (knights). The German WP article ( https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipp_von_Westphalen) uses the title Edler for the recently ennobled grandfather Philipp Westphal i.e. Edler von Westphalen. Doctoral historian ( talk) 11:44, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Jenny von Westphalen's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Mehring2003":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 18:00, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
The reference to Burke's landed gentry of Great Britain, page 617 is null and void. I checked it randomly, from archives found the internet, and it confirmed that the source isn't locatable and doesn't have any bearing. It is simply the same as referring to Encyclopædia Britannica page 716, if you understand what I'm saying. It will not do, to go into the genealogical history of Jenny von Westphalen with loose ends and unsubstantiated claims. Doctoral historian ( talk) 18:57, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
All of the mentioned things are common knowledge in the biographies on Jenny von Westphalen or Karl Marx. So nothing out of the ordinary. Doctoral historian ( talk) 19:20, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
this should be remedied, there's no reason for dedicated socialist Jenny Marx to have only the headers Background, Marriage, Children, Death 104.158.4.161 ( talk) 20:25, 5 July 2024 (UTC)