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Based on this source, the first edit read:
"On August 18, 2016, it was announced that McCurdy had reached a deal with Canvas Media Studios that will allow her to develop and produce scripted projects across multiple media platforms."
My new version reads:
"In August 2016, McCurdy signed a deal to develop projects with digital production company Canvas Media Studios to further utilize her social media connections with fans."
My initial objection was to having McCurdy "develop and produce scripted projects across multiple media platforms" when the source says "working on projects that could live on multiple platforms." To be "developing and producing" is a leap from "working on" and saying the projects will be "across multiple media platforms" is a stretch from "could live on".
My initial re-write was semi-reverted with a comment that the headline says she is to "to Develop Scripted Projects With Digital Studio Canvas Media" in the headline. Headlines are not part of the article, they are written by an editor to grab attention and attempt to boil down a substantially longer story into a specified space. With those goals in mind, headlines often seem to say something other than what the article itself actually says. If McCurdy is actually going to be developing and producing (as in, credited as a "Producer"), the article would certainly say that. It does not. It is written from a press release on the deal, adds in some background on the company, speculates about "multiple platforms" (based on the company's history) and adds in a canned image.
Both of the statements (from McCurdy and the company) note her social media following so I added that to my newest version. As Canvas Media Studios is hardly Universal Studios, I added the description "digital production company".
The "announcement" (press release) likely came out within the past couple of days. The announcement is not the story ("it was announced"), the contract is the story. The date of the source is not necessarily the date the press release was issued in any case. If, 30 years from now, this contract has led to a sea change in the industry (ha!), no one will ask "When was the signing of that deal announced?" Someone conceivably would want to know when the deal was made. - SummerPhD v2.0 14:43, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
She deserves the role of a producer Mike promise ( talk) 14:48, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
@ Sundayclose:, I think we are safe to add in the sentence removed in this edit. The source used (Buzzfeed News) per the link you provided is still regarded as "Generally Reliable". Additionally The A.V. Club makes the same claim here, as does Insider, both of which are consider Generally Reliable, so those could be mentioned as well. Something along the lines of:
While McCurdy never explicitly identifies "The Creator," multiple sources, including Buzzfeed News, The A.V. Club, and Insider have identified "The Creator" as iCarly and Sam & Cat-creator Dan Schneider.sources with the quotes from the relevant articles
Cerebral726 ( talk) 13:26, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
To clarify my position, I'm not arguing that we should just state, "Schneider is the creator" and then source it with Buzzfeed News. If the information is included in the article, I would want the article to explicitly state something along the lines of, "Buzzfeed News has identified Dan Schneider as the creator".
I'm not personally familiar with Insider as a publication, but I do consider Buzzfeed News to be a somewhat stronger source than The A.V. Club. Both are highly reliable. But just because some quality sources have chosen to be equivocal about the creator's identity doesn't negate the fact that a very high quality source has chosen to be non-equivocal about it.
It should be noted that Buzzfeed News interviewed McCurdy directly, while The A.V. Club and Insider did not. I don't see any reason to even cite the latter two sources for this particular claim; they don't contain contradictory reporting to Buzzfeed News. It's just that Buzzfeed News had more information available to report, likely because it was the only one of these three sources that had direct communication with McCurdy. -- Jpcase ( talk) 17:45, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
The current photo in her infobox is 10 years old. Is there any way it could be replaced with an updated photo of her? Chocomint18 ( talk) 21:48, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Her book is her current project, news, and accomplishment. Readers and searchers will benefit from addition of these fun facts:
- her book has sold millions of copies. Source: https://deadline.com/2023/02/jennette-mccurdy-signs-with-caa-1235252735/. the article mentions nearly 2 million copies 2 months ago. it is much higher now internationally.
- her book has been on New York Times Bestseller list for months (it is still on there). Source: https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/2023/04/23/combined-print-and-e-book-nonfiction/ Kimskey ( talk) 00:07, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
McCurdy has stated repeatedly that she is no longer pursuing a music career. She even says so in memoir. Yet every time I cite it, the page reverts back to a version in which the intro lists her a singer. If Jennette McCurdy's own book isn't an authoritative enough source regarding her music career, then what is? Or are we just not citing books anymore? TheClubSilencio ( talk) 03:18, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
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Based on this source, the first edit read:
"On August 18, 2016, it was announced that McCurdy had reached a deal with Canvas Media Studios that will allow her to develop and produce scripted projects across multiple media platforms."
My new version reads:
"In August 2016, McCurdy signed a deal to develop projects with digital production company Canvas Media Studios to further utilize her social media connections with fans."
My initial objection was to having McCurdy "develop and produce scripted projects across multiple media platforms" when the source says "working on projects that could live on multiple platforms." To be "developing and producing" is a leap from "working on" and saying the projects will be "across multiple media platforms" is a stretch from "could live on".
My initial re-write was semi-reverted with a comment that the headline says she is to "to Develop Scripted Projects With Digital Studio Canvas Media" in the headline. Headlines are not part of the article, they are written by an editor to grab attention and attempt to boil down a substantially longer story into a specified space. With those goals in mind, headlines often seem to say something other than what the article itself actually says. If McCurdy is actually going to be developing and producing (as in, credited as a "Producer"), the article would certainly say that. It does not. It is written from a press release on the deal, adds in some background on the company, speculates about "multiple platforms" (based on the company's history) and adds in a canned image.
Both of the statements (from McCurdy and the company) note her social media following so I added that to my newest version. As Canvas Media Studios is hardly Universal Studios, I added the description "digital production company".
The "announcement" (press release) likely came out within the past couple of days. The announcement is not the story ("it was announced"), the contract is the story. The date of the source is not necessarily the date the press release was issued in any case. If, 30 years from now, this contract has led to a sea change in the industry (ha!), no one will ask "When was the signing of that deal announced?" Someone conceivably would want to know when the deal was made. - SummerPhD v2.0 14:43, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
She deserves the role of a producer Mike promise ( talk) 14:48, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
@ Sundayclose:, I think we are safe to add in the sentence removed in this edit. The source used (Buzzfeed News) per the link you provided is still regarded as "Generally Reliable". Additionally The A.V. Club makes the same claim here, as does Insider, both of which are consider Generally Reliable, so those could be mentioned as well. Something along the lines of:
While McCurdy never explicitly identifies "The Creator," multiple sources, including Buzzfeed News, The A.V. Club, and Insider have identified "The Creator" as iCarly and Sam & Cat-creator Dan Schneider.sources with the quotes from the relevant articles
Cerebral726 ( talk) 13:26, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
To clarify my position, I'm not arguing that we should just state, "Schneider is the creator" and then source it with Buzzfeed News. If the information is included in the article, I would want the article to explicitly state something along the lines of, "Buzzfeed News has identified Dan Schneider as the creator".
I'm not personally familiar with Insider as a publication, but I do consider Buzzfeed News to be a somewhat stronger source than The A.V. Club. Both are highly reliable. But just because some quality sources have chosen to be equivocal about the creator's identity doesn't negate the fact that a very high quality source has chosen to be non-equivocal about it.
It should be noted that Buzzfeed News interviewed McCurdy directly, while The A.V. Club and Insider did not. I don't see any reason to even cite the latter two sources for this particular claim; they don't contain contradictory reporting to Buzzfeed News. It's just that Buzzfeed News had more information available to report, likely because it was the only one of these three sources that had direct communication with McCurdy. -- Jpcase ( talk) 17:45, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
The current photo in her infobox is 10 years old. Is there any way it could be replaced with an updated photo of her? Chocomint18 ( talk) 21:48, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Her book is her current project, news, and accomplishment. Readers and searchers will benefit from addition of these fun facts:
- her book has sold millions of copies. Source: https://deadline.com/2023/02/jennette-mccurdy-signs-with-caa-1235252735/. the article mentions nearly 2 million copies 2 months ago. it is much higher now internationally.
- her book has been on New York Times Bestseller list for months (it is still on there). Source: https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/2023/04/23/combined-print-and-e-book-nonfiction/ Kimskey ( talk) 00:07, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
McCurdy has stated repeatedly that she is no longer pursuing a music career. She even says so in memoir. Yet every time I cite it, the page reverts back to a version in which the intro lists her a singer. If Jennette McCurdy's own book isn't an authoritative enough source regarding her music career, then what is? Or are we just not citing books anymore? TheClubSilencio ( talk) 03:18, 12 July 2023 (UTC)