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I think the Crucible ought to be listed in the filmography section. Should a table be added? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.54.202 ( talk) 16:52, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
I had to highlight Principal Rooney. It is a classic. 27 Jan 05
"It was later revealed on a European news program that Jones' computer was hacked in an elaborate extortion scheme. Hackers exploited Jones' love for online poker and reportedly uploaded various materials including bomb making, tips for committing credit fraud, and pornography. Whether this revelation will affect his standing in the U.S. criminal justice system remains to be seen." I removed this part. A search of all major European print sources turns up nothin on Jones after July 2003. This can't be verified. lots of issues | leave me a message 22:55, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
The image that I uploaded (I'm spliph on the article history) was taken from the IMDB and is a screenshot, protected for use, labelled with the following:
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copyrighted film, and the copyright for it is most likely owned by the studio which produced the film, and possibly also by any actors appearing in the screenshot. It is believed that the use of a limited number of low-resolution screenshots
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This definition can be found on the Image copyright tags page, and is considered fair use as film screenshots are allowed, one per article.
I uploaded a screenshot from Beetlejuice to replace the mug shot, which may not even have the right licensing information (I'm pretty sure he was arrested in Florida court, not federal court). Sure, he's kind of a funny-looking guy, but there's no reason to make his only photo an unflattering mugshot. -- nae'blis (talk) 22:18, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
I would like to point out to you guys that police mug shots are matters of public record by governmental agencies and they have no copyrights attached, in the U.S., anyways. 24.243.2.132 ( talk)
This seems tricky, but in order to view the subject's entry in Florida's list of sex offenders, you must click on the link. You will see the site's general home page. Click on the back arrow on your browser menu to return to article. Now, click on the link again. This time the Jones' record will show up. Don't know why this is the case, but this is the only way you can view the entry utilizing the link. -- XLR8TION 04:26, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
According to the commentary in Invader Zim, he voiced a hobo on the episode "Gaz, Taster of Pork." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.39.185.163 ( talk • contribs) 19:39, 11 January 2007
The "bisexual" categories should be removed. His child pornography arrest does not automatically make him gay or bisexual; absent any other evidence of his sexual orientation, this is an offensive (and, I'm sure, unintended) statement that pedophilia and bisexuality are somehow related. They're not: check your own articles on the subject. -- Treybien 21:39 12 July 2008 (UTC) moved comment to bottom of talk page per WP:TALK. -- SSB ohio 12:59, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't know why but it seems that someone is making a great effort at scrubbing this page clean of all references to this guy's child porn arrest & conviction and his LIFE TIME status as a sex offender. He has been arrested twice now for failing to register. Once in Sarasota, FL, and now just recently in LA. Needless to say, I will keep on top of this and make sure that this information stays on the site. 24.243.2.132 ( talk)Biggus_Dickus
Well at least part of my own question was just answered - some fool is using some kind of robot program to mess with peoples' pages!!!! I wish there was something I could do to stop it. I will look into that. 24.243.2.132 ( talk)Biggus_Dickus —Preceding undated comment added 16:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC).
I just found out that Jones has been sued by the young boy for sexual abuse and have added that information to the article. Republic of Texas ( talk) 17:30, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Nothing cam eof it it was withdrawn, please don't come adding stuff like that, I also do not like your homo comments on the talkpage, please reign it in, you may have strong opinions about it but this is still a BLP. Off2riorob ( talk) 17:49, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Anyone able to see if our cotent is a copy vio from here? Off2riorob ( talk) 20:28, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
The article http://www.deadline.com/2010/09/burton-finds-his-frankenweenie-cast/ does not list Jones as being in this movie and neither does IMDB. I'm not sure where the last sentence of the article came from but I am deleting it. If you have a reliable source, please feel free to reinsert the information. Wickedjacob ( talk) 20:28, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
There are worse pictures out there than this that are from other mug shots. This is one of the better ones. You would think an actor would have more presence but I guess when you are sexually abusing children that may slip your mind when you get caught. He could flee to France and that would make for some more interesting arguments. He was sued by the boy he abused but it appears to have been settled out of court. There are many people trying to defend Jones image in public and that definitely violates wikis neutral point of view. He committed the crime, plead no contest which is the same as an admission of guilt under CA Penal Section code 1016(3) for "all" purposes. By doing so he saved himself from going to prison and a long public court trial on TV thus ruining any future he may have left. He ruined his image, not the people reporting it. Let the cards fall as they may. 172.56.11.8 ( talk) 01:43, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi Hullaballoo Wolfowitz, I asked for the courtesy of discussing the use of non-free images, here. Your reply was in an edit summary as "obviously fail NFCC#8, nonfree screenshots in actor BLP, not remotely debateable". The criterion in question states: "8. Contextual significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." Both "significantly increasing" and "detrimental to that understanding" are judgment calls.
I'll grant that it's probably undesirable to have multiple non-free images of routine portrayals. However, I request that we discuss the one non-free image that I'm restoring, before you opt to delete it. This is the image showing Jones as Emperor Joseph II in Amadeus, a defining role for Jones. We have an image of Jones as a person in the infobox. The significantly increased understanding with use of this image arises from seeing the transformation into a role. The detriment to understanding is the inability to see how Jones' portrayal of an august historical figure achieves an odd and eccentric effect. That one picture is worth the "thousand words". Sincerely, User:HopsonRoad 13:40, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Unless I missed it, the section listing various roles that Jones has played does not mention a role he made featuring Captain Cook in a documentary about the same. I think it was on one of the Discovery channels. Anyone recalling this? Okama-San ( talk) 16:37, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
I did some digging around and looked through some Cook documentaries, and now I believe I may actually have mistaken the actor Matt Young for Jeffrey Jones as they both have cetain facial features in common, which might explain why I did not see Jones listed as Cook. So; sorry, my mistake.:P
Okama-San (
talk)
15:14, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
This article has been fully protected for 3 days due to edit warring. Rather than edit warring, please discuss the content disagreement, develop consensus, and seek help resolving the dispute if needed. Getting a third opinion may be helpful. Daniel Quinlan ( talk) 20:03, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
We've multiple third-party, reliable sources cited stating both cases, investigations, and individuals are related. Text reflects this. In the m:The Wrong Version that was protected, additional references were included to further support and strengthen this material – consensus through editing seem to accept these additional sources.
The IP contributor has presented no information supporting their preferred version, nor contradicting the RS. (IP has further indicated they may not be here in good faith to collaborate, as evidenced by comments on their talk page.)
We welcome the IP contributor to engage in a collaborative process, explain how the information is factually incorrect, and to present evidence supporting their position. -- dsprc [talk] 22:10, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
Daniel Quinlan, in your recent restoration of a references needed tag, you suggest that "there are sections that are still largely unreferenced". I don't see what you might be referring to. If there are specific sentences that would benefit from a reference, then "ref needed" would be indicated. From Wikipedia:Reliable sources: "The policy on sourcing is Wikipedia:Verifiability, which requires inline citations for any material challenged or likely to be challenged, and for all quotations." Do you see any information that is likely to be challenged? If not, it's probably OK, as is. Sincerely, HopsonRoad ( talk) 01:01, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
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I think the Crucible ought to be listed in the filmography section. Should a table be added? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.54.202 ( talk) 16:52, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
I had to highlight Principal Rooney. It is a classic. 27 Jan 05
"It was later revealed on a European news program that Jones' computer was hacked in an elaborate extortion scheme. Hackers exploited Jones' love for online poker and reportedly uploaded various materials including bomb making, tips for committing credit fraud, and pornography. Whether this revelation will affect his standing in the U.S. criminal justice system remains to be seen." I removed this part. A search of all major European print sources turns up nothin on Jones after July 2003. This can't be verified. lots of issues | leave me a message 22:55, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
The image that I uploaded (I'm spliph on the article history) was taken from the IMDB and is a screenshot, protected for use, labelled with the following:
![]() | This image is a
screenshot from a
copyrighted film, and the copyright for it is most likely owned by the studio which produced the film, and possibly also by any actors appearing in the screenshot. It is believed that the use of a limited number of low-resolution screenshots
| ||
|
This definition can be found on the Image copyright tags page, and is considered fair use as film screenshots are allowed, one per article.
I uploaded a screenshot from Beetlejuice to replace the mug shot, which may not even have the right licensing information (I'm pretty sure he was arrested in Florida court, not federal court). Sure, he's kind of a funny-looking guy, but there's no reason to make his only photo an unflattering mugshot. -- nae'blis (talk) 22:18, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
I would like to point out to you guys that police mug shots are matters of public record by governmental agencies and they have no copyrights attached, in the U.S., anyways. 24.243.2.132 ( talk)
This seems tricky, but in order to view the subject's entry in Florida's list of sex offenders, you must click on the link. You will see the site's general home page. Click on the back arrow on your browser menu to return to article. Now, click on the link again. This time the Jones' record will show up. Don't know why this is the case, but this is the only way you can view the entry utilizing the link. -- XLR8TION 04:26, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
According to the commentary in Invader Zim, he voiced a hobo on the episode "Gaz, Taster of Pork." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.39.185.163 ( talk • contribs) 19:39, 11 January 2007
The "bisexual" categories should be removed. His child pornography arrest does not automatically make him gay or bisexual; absent any other evidence of his sexual orientation, this is an offensive (and, I'm sure, unintended) statement that pedophilia and bisexuality are somehow related. They're not: check your own articles on the subject. -- Treybien 21:39 12 July 2008 (UTC) moved comment to bottom of talk page per WP:TALK. -- SSB ohio 12:59, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't know why but it seems that someone is making a great effort at scrubbing this page clean of all references to this guy's child porn arrest & conviction and his LIFE TIME status as a sex offender. He has been arrested twice now for failing to register. Once in Sarasota, FL, and now just recently in LA. Needless to say, I will keep on top of this and make sure that this information stays on the site. 24.243.2.132 ( talk)Biggus_Dickus
Well at least part of my own question was just answered - some fool is using some kind of robot program to mess with peoples' pages!!!! I wish there was something I could do to stop it. I will look into that. 24.243.2.132 ( talk)Biggus_Dickus —Preceding undated comment added 16:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC).
I just found out that Jones has been sued by the young boy for sexual abuse and have added that information to the article. Republic of Texas ( talk) 17:30, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Nothing cam eof it it was withdrawn, please don't come adding stuff like that, I also do not like your homo comments on the talkpage, please reign it in, you may have strong opinions about it but this is still a BLP. Off2riorob ( talk) 17:49, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Anyone able to see if our cotent is a copy vio from here? Off2riorob ( talk) 20:28, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
The article http://www.deadline.com/2010/09/burton-finds-his-frankenweenie-cast/ does not list Jones as being in this movie and neither does IMDB. I'm not sure where the last sentence of the article came from but I am deleting it. If you have a reliable source, please feel free to reinsert the information. Wickedjacob ( talk) 20:28, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
There are worse pictures out there than this that are from other mug shots. This is one of the better ones. You would think an actor would have more presence but I guess when you are sexually abusing children that may slip your mind when you get caught. He could flee to France and that would make for some more interesting arguments. He was sued by the boy he abused but it appears to have been settled out of court. There are many people trying to defend Jones image in public and that definitely violates wikis neutral point of view. He committed the crime, plead no contest which is the same as an admission of guilt under CA Penal Section code 1016(3) for "all" purposes. By doing so he saved himself from going to prison and a long public court trial on TV thus ruining any future he may have left. He ruined his image, not the people reporting it. Let the cards fall as they may. 172.56.11.8 ( talk) 01:43, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi Hullaballoo Wolfowitz, I asked for the courtesy of discussing the use of non-free images, here. Your reply was in an edit summary as "obviously fail NFCC#8, nonfree screenshots in actor BLP, not remotely debateable". The criterion in question states: "8. Contextual significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." Both "significantly increasing" and "detrimental to that understanding" are judgment calls.
I'll grant that it's probably undesirable to have multiple non-free images of routine portrayals. However, I request that we discuss the one non-free image that I'm restoring, before you opt to delete it. This is the image showing Jones as Emperor Joseph II in Amadeus, a defining role for Jones. We have an image of Jones as a person in the infobox. The significantly increased understanding with use of this image arises from seeing the transformation into a role. The detriment to understanding is the inability to see how Jones' portrayal of an august historical figure achieves an odd and eccentric effect. That one picture is worth the "thousand words". Sincerely, User:HopsonRoad 13:40, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Unless I missed it, the section listing various roles that Jones has played does not mention a role he made featuring Captain Cook in a documentary about the same. I think it was on one of the Discovery channels. Anyone recalling this? Okama-San ( talk) 16:37, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
I did some digging around and looked through some Cook documentaries, and now I believe I may actually have mistaken the actor Matt Young for Jeffrey Jones as they both have cetain facial features in common, which might explain why I did not see Jones listed as Cook. So; sorry, my mistake.:P
Okama-San (
talk)
15:14, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
This article has been fully protected for 3 days due to edit warring. Rather than edit warring, please discuss the content disagreement, develop consensus, and seek help resolving the dispute if needed. Getting a third opinion may be helpful. Daniel Quinlan ( talk) 20:03, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
We've multiple third-party, reliable sources cited stating both cases, investigations, and individuals are related. Text reflects this. In the m:The Wrong Version that was protected, additional references were included to further support and strengthen this material – consensus through editing seem to accept these additional sources.
The IP contributor has presented no information supporting their preferred version, nor contradicting the RS. (IP has further indicated they may not be here in good faith to collaborate, as evidenced by comments on their talk page.)
We welcome the IP contributor to engage in a collaborative process, explain how the information is factually incorrect, and to present evidence supporting their position. -- dsprc [talk] 22:10, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
Daniel Quinlan, in your recent restoration of a references needed tag, you suggest that "there are sections that are still largely unreferenced". I don't see what you might be referring to. If there are specific sentences that would benefit from a reference, then "ref needed" would be indicated. From Wikipedia:Reliable sources: "The policy on sourcing is Wikipedia:Verifiability, which requires inline citations for any material challenged or likely to be challenged, and for all quotations." Do you see any information that is likely to be challenged? If not, it's probably OK, as is. Sincerely, HopsonRoad ( talk) 01:01, 18 May 2024 (UTC)