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Nelson played more years in Seattle and had three separate stints on the Mariners. Isn't it fair to list him with Seattle colors? Would like to hear everyone's thoughts.
- Yankee he signed with the Yankees before the 2007 season to retire as a Yankee-- Yankees10 22:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10
- BFD. He didn't play with NY in '07 and it was largely a publicity stunt.
- The main thing was he signed with the Yankees because he wanted to RETIRE AS A YANKEE, and I doubt it was a publicity stunt-- Yankees10 00:48, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10
- Retired players should not have colors, period. Obviously there are some professional athletes that would have a clear-cut choice for colors. However, there are others that might be impossible to agree upon. Therefore the sake of consistency, retired players should not have colors. They are not under contract with teams anyway, there is no need for them. Chris Nelson 01:16, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- FWIW, I think he should have Yankee colors. He played on 5 pennant and WS champ teams with the Yanks. I don't feel strongly either way, but those are my thoughts. - Masonpatriot 01:20, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- Colors should be neutral, I explain my ideas here: Talk:Reggie Jackson
- From a purely objective standpoint, look at Nelson's career:
- Mariners: 432 games, 24 wins, 447 IP, 471 SO, 23 SV, 3.26 ERA
- Yankees: 331 games, 23 wins, 311 IP, 334 SO, 9 SV, 3.47 ERA
- He pitched 101 more games with the Mariners and recorded much better statistics in Seattle than with the Yankees. He should consequently be represented as a Mariner. 192.234.99.1 11:11, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- If you go by the numbers, you have to say he spent the majority of his career, and posted his best seasons, as a member of the Seattle Mariners. Joeidaho 14:02, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- Mariners; whether you look at seasons, games or saves, a slight majority of his career was with the Mariners, but only about 35-40% with the Yankees. For me, the final clincher is that his only All-Star selection was as a Mariner. MisfitToys 23:14, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
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The title, "Jeff Nelson (baseball)" implies that he is the only Jeff Nelson affiliated with baseball, which is not true. ( Jeff Nelson (umpire)). I suggest renaming this page to "Jeff Nelson (pitcher)." After all, it's a bit unfair for the ump. Delaywaves talk 23:05, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: page moved. Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 23:18, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
moved Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 23:18, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
Jeff Nelson (baseball) → Jeff Nelson (pitcher) – There is an umpire also named Jeff Nelson. The common protocol, which isn't really touched on here but should be, when a baseball player shares his name with an umpire is to disambiguate both by position/role, not to use the "baseball" disambig on the player. See Rick Reed (pitcher) and Rick Reed (umpire) as a prominent example. Paul Runge and Gerry Davis are less prominent ones, but they also follow this rule. Thus, it makes sense for the two Jeff Nelsons to also follow it. JustJamie820 ( talk) 01:59, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- This is a contested technical request ( permalink). Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 06:42, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- @ JustJamie820: "... (umpire)" alone is ambiguous; there are officials usually called "umpires" rather than "referees" also in cricket, which is frequently played here in Britain, and in India and Pakistan and elsewhere as a result of former British rule. And in some other sports. Move Rick Reed (umpire) to Rick Reed (baseball umpire)? Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 06:42, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- @ Anthony Appleyard:: I'm not trying to move the page about the umpire. I'm only trying to move the pitcher's page, because he's not the only baseball personality there is. If you want to move the umpire's page elsewhere, we can talk about the umpire's page (ping me if you do) or on the talk page at WP:WikiProject Baseball if you want to discuss the idea of changing the disambigs for baseball umpires. Let's keep it focused on just the pitcher here. We'll talk umpires in a more appropriate venue. -- JustJamie820 ( talk) 22:27, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
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Nelson played more years in Seattle and had three separate stints on the Mariners. Isn't it fair to list him with Seattle colors? Would like to hear everyone's thoughts.
- Yankee he signed with the Yankees before the 2007 season to retire as a Yankee-- Yankees10 22:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10
- BFD. He didn't play with NY in '07 and it was largely a publicity stunt.
- The main thing was he signed with the Yankees because he wanted to RETIRE AS A YANKEE, and I doubt it was a publicity stunt-- Yankees10 00:48, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10
- Retired players should not have colors, period. Obviously there are some professional athletes that would have a clear-cut choice for colors. However, there are others that might be impossible to agree upon. Therefore the sake of consistency, retired players should not have colors. They are not under contract with teams anyway, there is no need for them. Chris Nelson 01:16, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- FWIW, I think he should have Yankee colors. He played on 5 pennant and WS champ teams with the Yanks. I don't feel strongly either way, but those are my thoughts. - Masonpatriot 01:20, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- Colors should be neutral, I explain my ideas here: Talk:Reggie Jackson
- From a purely objective standpoint, look at Nelson's career:
- Mariners: 432 games, 24 wins, 447 IP, 471 SO, 23 SV, 3.26 ERA
- Yankees: 331 games, 23 wins, 311 IP, 334 SO, 9 SV, 3.47 ERA
- He pitched 101 more games with the Mariners and recorded much better statistics in Seattle than with the Yankees. He should consequently be represented as a Mariner. 192.234.99.1 11:11, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- If you go by the numbers, you have to say he spent the majority of his career, and posted his best seasons, as a member of the Seattle Mariners. Joeidaho 14:02, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
- Mariners; whether you look at seasons, games or saves, a slight majority of his career was with the Mariners, but only about 35-40% with the Yankees. For me, the final clincher is that his only All-Star selection was as a Mariner. MisfitToys 23:14, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 04:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
The title, "Jeff Nelson (baseball)" implies that he is the only Jeff Nelson affiliated with baseball, which is not true. ( Jeff Nelson (umpire)). I suggest renaming this page to "Jeff Nelson (pitcher)." After all, it's a bit unfair for the ump. Delaywaves talk 23:05, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: page moved. Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 23:18, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
moved Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 23:18, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
Jeff Nelson (baseball) → Jeff Nelson (pitcher) – There is an umpire also named Jeff Nelson. The common protocol, which isn't really touched on here but should be, when a baseball player shares his name with an umpire is to disambiguate both by position/role, not to use the "baseball" disambig on the player. See Rick Reed (pitcher) and Rick Reed (umpire) as a prominent example. Paul Runge and Gerry Davis are less prominent ones, but they also follow this rule. Thus, it makes sense for the two Jeff Nelsons to also follow it. JustJamie820 ( talk) 01:59, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- This is a contested technical request ( permalink). Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 06:42, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- @ JustJamie820: "... (umpire)" alone is ambiguous; there are officials usually called "umpires" rather than "referees" also in cricket, which is frequently played here in Britain, and in India and Pakistan and elsewhere as a result of former British rule. And in some other sports. Move Rick Reed (umpire) to Rick Reed (baseball umpire)? Anthony Appleyard ( talk) 06:42, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- @ Anthony Appleyard:: I'm not trying to move the page about the umpire. I'm only trying to move the pitcher's page, because he's not the only baseball personality there is. If you want to move the umpire's page elsewhere, we can talk about the umpire's page (ping me if you do) or on the talk page at WP:WikiProject Baseball if you want to discuss the idea of changing the disambigs for baseball umpires. Let's keep it focused on just the pitcher here. We'll talk umpires in a more appropriate venue. -- JustJamie820 ( talk) 22:27, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
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