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In the section, "Prosecution Concerning Holocaust Denial," the claim is made that Le Pen denied the Nazis' extermination specifically of ca. 6 million Jews: "For Le Pen, the French deportation of 76,000 Jews from France to Nazi concentration camps, where they were killed, is a trivial matter, and he denies that 6 million Jews were killed, saying 'I don't think there were that many deaths. There weren't 6 million ... There weren't mass murders as it's been said.'" The source cited is an article from The Washington Post. The Post's article, in fact, contradicts that statement. On the contrary, the comment was not made by Le Pen himself; rather, it was made by another person, namely, Benoit Loeuillet, an official of the National Front. As The Washington Post article states: "In recent days, however, Benoît Loeuillet, a regional National Front official in the South of France, was exposed on camera, in a documentary on the party, denying the Holocaust in starker terms than those used publicly by Jean-Marie Le Pen. 'I don’t think there were that many deaths. There weren’t 6 million,' he was quoted as saying. 'There weren’t mass murders as it’s been said.' Loeuillet was summarily dismissed from the party." The claim should, therefore, be removed. Mwidunn ( talk) 14:40, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Rank: "Intelligence Officer" - ?

This is no rank, it is a position. - Which rank did Le Pen actually reach - First Lieutenant ? Captain ? -- 88.217.104.85 ( talk) 16:49, 22 April 2017 (UTC) reply

Still the honorary president of the FN?

Is Le Pen still the honorary president of the FN, or did his honorary presidency end when he was expelled from the party in 2015? The infobox shows him as still serving as the honorary president, but the article states he was expelled from the party, and that a supermajority of FN members voted to expel him from the honorary presidency. -- 1990'sguy ( talk) 22:33, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

This question was answered elsewhere. -- 1990'sguy ( talk) 20:57, 27 April 2017 (UTC) reply

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Cheep, this image is under Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International, which means it is free to share and remix, so how is using it for the main image a copyright violation? Helper201 ( talk) 11:05, 7 August 2020 (UTC) reply

Far-right

FMSky why do you think calling Le Pen "far-right" in the lead is WP:UNDUE? He has been widely described as such (sources presented by Hemiauchenia: [1], [2], [3]) VR talk 19:04, 9 December 2021 (UTC) reply

I agree that "far-right" isn't UNDUE for the lead. Here are a few heavily cited academic journals reporting Le Pen as "far-right":
  • Mayer, Nonna (1 January 2013). "From Jean-Marie to Marine Le Pen: Electoral Change on the Far Right". Parliamentary Affairs. 66 (1). Oxford University Press: 164. doi: 10.1093/pa/gss071.
  • Hainsworth, Paul (6 July 2007). "The extreme right in France: the rise and rise of Jean‐Marie Le Pen's front national". Journal of Representative Democracy. 40 (2). Routledge: 101. doi: 10.1080/00344890408523253.
  • Stockemer, Daiel; Amengay, Abdelkarim (4 November 2015). "The voters of the FN under Jean-Marie Le Pen and Marine Le Pen: Continuity or change?". French Politics. 4 (4). Macmillan Publishers: 375.
  • Marcus, Jonathan (1995). The National Front and French Politics: The Resistible Rise of Jean-Marie Le Pen. New York University Press. ISBN  0814755356.
WikiLinuz🍁( talk) 19:28, 9 December 2021 (UTC) reply

Jean Marine Le Pen is notable coz he is polititian so his ideology is important and carries significant weight. So, yes for inclusion. We could instead/also use the word "nationalist". Cinadon 36 19:55, 9 December 2021 (UTC) reply

+1 to this. "Far right" seems apt and well attested. Cheers, all. Dumuzid ( talk) 03:39, 15 December 2021 (UTC) reply
Le Pen is best known as a leader of the far right in France. TFD ( talk) 05:10, 16 December 2021 (UTC) reply
Agree with comments here: "far right" is clearly due and verifiable. BobFromBrockley ( talk) 09:59, 17 December 2021 (UTC) reply

Does he speak Breton?

He seems to have been born at a time when it was still passed to the children by anyone, not just revivalists. 89.64.70.36 ( talk) 23:00, 18 October 2022 (UTC) reply

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Source cited contradicts statement in article

In the section, "Prosecution Concerning Holocaust Denial," the claim is made that Le Pen denied the Nazis' extermination specifically of ca. 6 million Jews: "For Le Pen, the French deportation of 76,000 Jews from France to Nazi concentration camps, where they were killed, is a trivial matter, and he denies that 6 million Jews were killed, saying 'I don't think there were that many deaths. There weren't 6 million ... There weren't mass murders as it's been said.'" The source cited is an article from The Washington Post. The Post's article, in fact, contradicts that statement. On the contrary, the comment was not made by Le Pen himself; rather, it was made by another person, namely, Benoit Loeuillet, an official of the National Front. As The Washington Post article states: "In recent days, however, Benoît Loeuillet, a regional National Front official in the South of France, was exposed on camera, in a documentary on the party, denying the Holocaust in starker terms than those used publicly by Jean-Marie Le Pen. 'I don’t think there were that many deaths. There weren’t 6 million,' he was quoted as saying. 'There weren’t mass murders as it’s been said.' Loeuillet was summarily dismissed from the party." The claim should, therefore, be removed. Mwidunn ( talk) 14:40, 1 July 2024 (UTC) reply

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Rank: "Intelligence Officer" - ?

This is no rank, it is a position. - Which rank did Le Pen actually reach - First Lieutenant ? Captain ? -- 88.217.104.85 ( talk) 16:49, 22 April 2017 (UTC) reply

Still the honorary president of the FN?

Is Le Pen still the honorary president of the FN, or did his honorary presidency end when he was expelled from the party in 2015? The infobox shows him as still serving as the honorary president, but the article states he was expelled from the party, and that a supermajority of FN members voted to expel him from the honorary presidency. -- 1990'sguy ( talk) 22:33, 26 April 2017 (UTC) reply

This question was answered elsewhere. -- 1990'sguy ( talk) 20:57, 27 April 2017 (UTC) reply

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Far-right

FMSky why do you think calling Le Pen "far-right" in the lead is WP:UNDUE? He has been widely described as such (sources presented by Hemiauchenia: [1], [2], [3]) VR talk 19:04, 9 December 2021 (UTC) reply

I agree that "far-right" isn't UNDUE for the lead. Here are a few heavily cited academic journals reporting Le Pen as "far-right":
  • Mayer, Nonna (1 January 2013). "From Jean-Marie to Marine Le Pen: Electoral Change on the Far Right". Parliamentary Affairs. 66 (1). Oxford University Press: 164. doi: 10.1093/pa/gss071.
  • Hainsworth, Paul (6 July 2007). "The extreme right in France: the rise and rise of Jean‐Marie Le Pen's front national". Journal of Representative Democracy. 40 (2). Routledge: 101. doi: 10.1080/00344890408523253.
  • Stockemer, Daiel; Amengay, Abdelkarim (4 November 2015). "The voters of the FN under Jean-Marie Le Pen and Marine Le Pen: Continuity or change?". French Politics. 4 (4). Macmillan Publishers: 375.
  • Marcus, Jonathan (1995). The National Front and French Politics: The Resistible Rise of Jean-Marie Le Pen. New York University Press. ISBN  0814755356.
WikiLinuz🍁( talk) 19:28, 9 December 2021 (UTC) reply

Jean Marine Le Pen is notable coz he is polititian so his ideology is important and carries significant weight. So, yes for inclusion. We could instead/also use the word "nationalist". Cinadon 36 19:55, 9 December 2021 (UTC) reply

+1 to this. "Far right" seems apt and well attested. Cheers, all. Dumuzid ( talk) 03:39, 15 December 2021 (UTC) reply
Le Pen is best known as a leader of the far right in France. TFD ( talk) 05:10, 16 December 2021 (UTC) reply
Agree with comments here: "far right" is clearly due and verifiable. BobFromBrockley ( talk) 09:59, 17 December 2021 (UTC) reply

Does he speak Breton?

He seems to have been born at a time when it was still passed to the children by anyone, not just revivalists. 89.64.70.36 ( talk) 23:00, 18 October 2022 (UTC) reply


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