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In Star Trek: Nemesis, Picard is able to detect a misalignment of the Enterprise-E's torqe sensors. Goerdi asks him how he could hear the torqe sensors. We also learned that Picard suffers from Shalaft's Syndrome whiched caused hypersensitive hearing. Could it be assumed that although the disorder was treated, it lead to him still having "better than" normal hearing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neovu79 ( talk • contribs) 05:46, 1 September 2006
Does anyone know if Picard was named after the 17th c. astronomer Jean Picard, or if it's a coincidence? Daibhid C 21:41, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
The milestones segment mentions an episode "Who watches the watchers?" where Picard espouses atheism, but any attempt to add him to the under-populated "fictional atheists" category meets with deletion. Therefore, someone should either delete that from the milestones or he should be added permanently to the list.
This was deleted some time ago, and I think deserves reinstatement. Patrick Stewart is an actor of shakespearian schools. Famous quotes are his bread and butter, and I think what endears him to a large portion of the Star Trek fans despite his series not being "the original"
Perhaps we can agree on an upper limit (4 from the series, 1 from the movie) and try to keep the number in that frame for this article? I think there's really no better way to describe the star trek universe for casual readers than in quotes. Not to make this post a "best of" list, but try this on for size:
Picard: "We are what we are, and we're doing the best we can" -- stating the essential creed of the United Federation of Planets. Liu Bei 03:25, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
According to Darkmateria's website, the Picard Song was released in 2001, fixed
Does the character of Picard produce the word lieutenant the American way (Lu-tenant) or the Britsh way (Leff-tenant)? I'm confused because the actor is British, but the character is French.
This is an extremely unflattering picture of Picard, and it also has the gray uniform from the movies rather than the red one from the show, where he was most well-known. Surely someone can find a better picture than this? I would add one, but I usually end up violating copyright rules somehow, so I just leave it to people more skilled than me. Mnpeter 04:02, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Agree - There was a good image of him in the red uniform sitting on the bridge of the Enterprise-D, I suggest we revert it back, it was a much better looking image. Ejfetters 06:41, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Who is playing Ensign Picard in the picture presented in the article? JIP | Talk 19:51, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
The trivia section seems to contain no material that contributes to the article in an encyclopedic matter, that is, nothing you would find in a encyclopedia about the character. I propose eliminating this section to help clean up the article, as it is supposed to be an encylopedic article. Also, none of this information is found in the Star Trek encyclopedia, so I don't think it should be here either. Ejfetters 07:11, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
It was suggested previously, and there was only 1 response to the suggestion, in agreement with the proposer, that the image in the infobox be changed to a better image of the subject from the more noteable television series that he was in for 7 seasons. After the change another user commented on the image at my talk page, so I will bring the discussion here as should be done, as discussions for the page should be in the page's discussion.
So, the question is, Captain Picard came to be known in ST:TNG, where the character was created and came to be notable in popular culture. Because of the success of the television show, 4 feature films were spun off from the television series. Images of several ST:TOS and ST:TNG have images from there notable roles in the television series.
I propose that the image in the lead off infobox for the character be one from the television series. An image of the character from his film roles can be inserted where the films are discussed in the article. This will also suit the flow of the article's timeline better. I propose both images of Captain Picard remain, though the image in the infobox be in the red uniform from TNG. Furthermore, if someone has more knowledege of image editing, could you please edit both images so the conform to fair-use screenshot standards on resolution and size. If it is needed I can look this policy up and list it here, or to any user who requests it. Thank you.
Begin voting below
Agree for the reasons stated above.
Ejfetters
00:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Ejfetters, please stop reverting the image on this page. You've already made it look like there was a big discussion on the subject in your first edit summary where you revert it, when there wasn't. One user had made a comment and that was it. Just because you two don't like the image doesn't mean it gets voted out. It was NOT adequately voted out, so it stays until it HAS been voted out with a consesus that's done correctly. One person going on a talk page and stating an opinion about the image looking unflattering, followed by your saying 'agreed', does not count as a consesus or a discussion. There's a specific way to go about trying to remove something that's controversial, and you've been doing it incorrectly and continually adding your image. Further, if you thought a consesus had been reached and the discussion is closed, you are supposed to make that known, which also don't know how to do it correctly. Please see [ [1]]. For these reasons, I am reverting back the image back. For the record, I oppose the change. However, it's not important until you request removal in the correct fashion where everyone is aware that you are requesting removal by the title. Not main picture as your title. Tratare 01:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
While the consensus process does not require posting to the discussion page, it can be useful. Edit summaries are short and can be misinterpreted. Discussing your edit may help it attract consensus. Posting a comment before editing is the best way to avoid misunderstandings. If you are unsure about an edit someone has made, wait a reasonable amount of time to allow them to post a comment. Also, when considering edits, be sure to check the discussion page to see if there are any open or closed discussions on the area you were about to edit. But once you have checked and contributed to the discussion, don't be too timid, BE BOLD. Thank you for your cooperation and good faith edits. Ejfetters 01:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
This is an extremely unflattering picture of Picard, and it also has the gray uniform from the movies rather than the red one from the show, where he was most well-known. Surely someone can find a better picture than this? I would add one, but I usually end up violating copyright rules somehow, so I just leave it to people more skilled than me. Mnpeter 04:02, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Agree - There was a good image of him in the red uniform sitting on the bridge of the Enterprise-D, I suggest we revert it back, it was a much better looking image. Ejfetters 06:41, 31 July 2007 (UTC) Ejfetters 01:46, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Howdy, I've protected the article. Let someone know when a consensus is reached. Best regards, Navou banter 02:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Should there be a 'references in popular culture', or trivia section? I'm thinking here of referring to the dual meaning of the 'Picard Manuever', also the Picard Song.
WikiReaderer 00:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Tagged as in-universe because there is no information about casting, development, merchandising, critical reaction, or coverage by outside third-party sources. All of this is implied by the presence of the in-universe tag in general, which provides a link to the fiction-writing guidelines, but User:Anton Mravcek apparently wants this spelled out on talk pages -- which is not a requirement for posting the tag, despite what the editor's edit summaries imply. Well, here it is. Trimming of plot summary is appreciated, but what's left is still...plot summary. -- EEMeltonIV 04:24, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Should this article contain a sub-section about Picard's fish. I am not sure there is enough "out-of-universe" information or RS, but I just followed a See Also link to here and I am not sure how appropriate the link is under that heading. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ursasapien ( talk • contribs) 07:45, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
If The Picard Song is going to redirect here instead of being its own page or a page which collects and describes viral media, there should be content here. Towards that end, I put together a short section regarding it and sourced it appropriately. If you can expand it or split it off to its own page, great. I kind of doubt that there's enough information or notability for it to justify its own page, though. There does seem to be more than enough notability for it to merit a mention, though. EvilCouch 02:09, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
There is a Lyric sheet to the song, but it is more than just mere lyrics; it also sources the episodes that the picard sound bytes are taken from, is that of use to anyone or anyplace on wikipedia? Zulto ( talk) 02:04, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
In the section about Locutus, the article currently reads, "His name, Locutus is a clever nod to the Roman professional poisoner Locusta who is suspected of many deaths, including the Emperor Claudius, which ultimately resulted in the ascendency of Nero to Emperor and the historical burning of Rome." Where is this from? Because it seems to me that the name is much more likely to be derived from "locution," which is 1) A particular word, phrase, or expression, especially one that is used by a particular person or group and 2) Style of speaking; phraseology. Essentially, a "locutus" would be a person used by a particular person or group to speak for them, hence the name. This explanation seems to make much more sense in the context of Picard's relationship to the Borg than the current one does. While there isn't a source for this either, as far as I know, it is a reasonable alternative to the current unsourced explanation, which should probably be removed without a citation. Thoughts? Newsboy85 ( talk) 05:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Didn't this article use to be more than twice as long and more detailed? What happened? ¿Qué pasó? Mulder1982 ( talk) 01:12, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
To say that "Make it so" comes from Hornblower is not completely accurate. It is a term that stems from the Royal Navy and is still in use today. Making this a Star Trek/Hornblower connection is like making say the phrase "Thank you" is a quote from "Silence of the Lambs". CU L8R AV8R ... J-P ( talk) 19:30, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
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A more complete article on this character would have AT LEAST some mention of his more popular phrase "Engage" with hand movement, perhaps along with "make it so." 132.178.206.155 ( talk) 05:14, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
I think it's notable to add to this article information from the first 30 second of this: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pXOK-ZVJMaU 89.138.105.130 ( talk) 20:55, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Everyone, including Picard himself mispronounces his name. That is, assuming he's French and assuming pronunciation hasn't changed from "now". Why does EVERYONE call him "Jean-LOOK"? Why does he call himself that? Maybe he should learn to speak French? 97.103.80.222 ( talk) 21:39, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Jean-Luc Picard, sometimes referred to affectionately by fans as "Captain Bald,"
I haven't seen this used frequently, nor does it appear in Usenet archives or google searches. Citation is needed. -- Kynn ( talk) 18:11, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
This article could use some expansion including exploring the dynamic aspects of the character, like the impact of the events of "The Inner Light" where Picard lives a whole lifetime as a Ressikan, or how his discomfort around children plays out throughout the franchise. Where's the discussion of the tension between Picard and Crusher? What about his holodeck adventures? This article reveals only the broadest strokes to outline a very finely drawn character. ClaudeReigns ( talk) 08:55, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Since the Countdown comic is non-canon, the information in it has no place in Jean-Luc Picard's biography. It would only fit in an Apocrypha section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.236.46.224 ( talk) 01:53, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Let's not add this piece of advertisement to the article. It's not a good measure for the popularity of the character unless there is a reliable source which says so. Offliner ( talk) 04:13, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
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In Star Trek: Nemesis, Picard is able to detect a misalignment of the Enterprise-E's torqe sensors. Goerdi asks him how he could hear the torqe sensors. We also learned that Picard suffers from Shalaft's Syndrome whiched caused hypersensitive hearing. Could it be assumed that although the disorder was treated, it lead to him still having "better than" normal hearing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neovu79 ( talk • contribs) 05:46, 1 September 2006
Does anyone know if Picard was named after the 17th c. astronomer Jean Picard, or if it's a coincidence? Daibhid C 21:41, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
The milestones segment mentions an episode "Who watches the watchers?" where Picard espouses atheism, but any attempt to add him to the under-populated "fictional atheists" category meets with deletion. Therefore, someone should either delete that from the milestones or he should be added permanently to the list.
This was deleted some time ago, and I think deserves reinstatement. Patrick Stewart is an actor of shakespearian schools. Famous quotes are his bread and butter, and I think what endears him to a large portion of the Star Trek fans despite his series not being "the original"
Perhaps we can agree on an upper limit (4 from the series, 1 from the movie) and try to keep the number in that frame for this article? I think there's really no better way to describe the star trek universe for casual readers than in quotes. Not to make this post a "best of" list, but try this on for size:
Picard: "We are what we are, and we're doing the best we can" -- stating the essential creed of the United Federation of Planets. Liu Bei 03:25, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
According to Darkmateria's website, the Picard Song was released in 2001, fixed
Does the character of Picard produce the word lieutenant the American way (Lu-tenant) or the Britsh way (Leff-tenant)? I'm confused because the actor is British, but the character is French.
This is an extremely unflattering picture of Picard, and it also has the gray uniform from the movies rather than the red one from the show, where he was most well-known. Surely someone can find a better picture than this? I would add one, but I usually end up violating copyright rules somehow, so I just leave it to people more skilled than me. Mnpeter 04:02, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Agree - There was a good image of him in the red uniform sitting on the bridge of the Enterprise-D, I suggest we revert it back, it was a much better looking image. Ejfetters 06:41, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Who is playing Ensign Picard in the picture presented in the article? JIP | Talk 19:51, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
The trivia section seems to contain no material that contributes to the article in an encyclopedic matter, that is, nothing you would find in a encyclopedia about the character. I propose eliminating this section to help clean up the article, as it is supposed to be an encylopedic article. Also, none of this information is found in the Star Trek encyclopedia, so I don't think it should be here either. Ejfetters 07:11, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
It was suggested previously, and there was only 1 response to the suggestion, in agreement with the proposer, that the image in the infobox be changed to a better image of the subject from the more noteable television series that he was in for 7 seasons. After the change another user commented on the image at my talk page, so I will bring the discussion here as should be done, as discussions for the page should be in the page's discussion.
So, the question is, Captain Picard came to be known in ST:TNG, where the character was created and came to be notable in popular culture. Because of the success of the television show, 4 feature films were spun off from the television series. Images of several ST:TOS and ST:TNG have images from there notable roles in the television series.
I propose that the image in the lead off infobox for the character be one from the television series. An image of the character from his film roles can be inserted where the films are discussed in the article. This will also suit the flow of the article's timeline better. I propose both images of Captain Picard remain, though the image in the infobox be in the red uniform from TNG. Furthermore, if someone has more knowledege of image editing, could you please edit both images so the conform to fair-use screenshot standards on resolution and size. If it is needed I can look this policy up and list it here, or to any user who requests it. Thank you.
Begin voting below
Agree for the reasons stated above.
Ejfetters
00:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Ejfetters, please stop reverting the image on this page. You've already made it look like there was a big discussion on the subject in your first edit summary where you revert it, when there wasn't. One user had made a comment and that was it. Just because you two don't like the image doesn't mean it gets voted out. It was NOT adequately voted out, so it stays until it HAS been voted out with a consesus that's done correctly. One person going on a talk page and stating an opinion about the image looking unflattering, followed by your saying 'agreed', does not count as a consesus or a discussion. There's a specific way to go about trying to remove something that's controversial, and you've been doing it incorrectly and continually adding your image. Further, if you thought a consesus had been reached and the discussion is closed, you are supposed to make that known, which also don't know how to do it correctly. Please see [ [1]]. For these reasons, I am reverting back the image back. For the record, I oppose the change. However, it's not important until you request removal in the correct fashion where everyone is aware that you are requesting removal by the title. Not main picture as your title. Tratare 01:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
While the consensus process does not require posting to the discussion page, it can be useful. Edit summaries are short and can be misinterpreted. Discussing your edit may help it attract consensus. Posting a comment before editing is the best way to avoid misunderstandings. If you are unsure about an edit someone has made, wait a reasonable amount of time to allow them to post a comment. Also, when considering edits, be sure to check the discussion page to see if there are any open or closed discussions on the area you were about to edit. But once you have checked and contributed to the discussion, don't be too timid, BE BOLD. Thank you for your cooperation and good faith edits. Ejfetters 01:44, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
This is an extremely unflattering picture of Picard, and it also has the gray uniform from the movies rather than the red one from the show, where he was most well-known. Surely someone can find a better picture than this? I would add one, but I usually end up violating copyright rules somehow, so I just leave it to people more skilled than me. Mnpeter 04:02, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Agree - There was a good image of him in the red uniform sitting on the bridge of the Enterprise-D, I suggest we revert it back, it was a much better looking image. Ejfetters 06:41, 31 July 2007 (UTC) Ejfetters 01:46, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Howdy, I've protected the article. Let someone know when a consensus is reached. Best regards, Navou banter 02:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Should there be a 'references in popular culture', or trivia section? I'm thinking here of referring to the dual meaning of the 'Picard Manuever', also the Picard Song.
WikiReaderer 00:26, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Tagged as in-universe because there is no information about casting, development, merchandising, critical reaction, or coverage by outside third-party sources. All of this is implied by the presence of the in-universe tag in general, which provides a link to the fiction-writing guidelines, but User:Anton Mravcek apparently wants this spelled out on talk pages -- which is not a requirement for posting the tag, despite what the editor's edit summaries imply. Well, here it is. Trimming of plot summary is appreciated, but what's left is still...plot summary. -- EEMeltonIV 04:24, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Should this article contain a sub-section about Picard's fish. I am not sure there is enough "out-of-universe" information or RS, but I just followed a See Also link to here and I am not sure how appropriate the link is under that heading. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ursasapien ( talk • contribs) 07:45, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
If The Picard Song is going to redirect here instead of being its own page or a page which collects and describes viral media, there should be content here. Towards that end, I put together a short section regarding it and sourced it appropriately. If you can expand it or split it off to its own page, great. I kind of doubt that there's enough information or notability for it to justify its own page, though. There does seem to be more than enough notability for it to merit a mention, though. EvilCouch 02:09, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
There is a Lyric sheet to the song, but it is more than just mere lyrics; it also sources the episodes that the picard sound bytes are taken from, is that of use to anyone or anyplace on wikipedia? Zulto ( talk) 02:04, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
In the section about Locutus, the article currently reads, "His name, Locutus is a clever nod to the Roman professional poisoner Locusta who is suspected of many deaths, including the Emperor Claudius, which ultimately resulted in the ascendency of Nero to Emperor and the historical burning of Rome." Where is this from? Because it seems to me that the name is much more likely to be derived from "locution," which is 1) A particular word, phrase, or expression, especially one that is used by a particular person or group and 2) Style of speaking; phraseology. Essentially, a "locutus" would be a person used by a particular person or group to speak for them, hence the name. This explanation seems to make much more sense in the context of Picard's relationship to the Borg than the current one does. While there isn't a source for this either, as far as I know, it is a reasonable alternative to the current unsourced explanation, which should probably be removed without a citation. Thoughts? Newsboy85 ( talk) 05:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Didn't this article use to be more than twice as long and more detailed? What happened? ¿Qué pasó? Mulder1982 ( talk) 01:12, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
To say that "Make it so" comes from Hornblower is not completely accurate. It is a term that stems from the Royal Navy and is still in use today. Making this a Star Trek/Hornblower connection is like making say the phrase "Thank you" is a quote from "Silence of the Lambs". CU L8R AV8R ... J-P ( talk) 19:30, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
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A more complete article on this character would have AT LEAST some mention of his more popular phrase "Engage" with hand movement, perhaps along with "make it so." 132.178.206.155 ( talk) 05:14, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
I think it's notable to add to this article information from the first 30 second of this: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pXOK-ZVJMaU 89.138.105.130 ( talk) 20:55, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Everyone, including Picard himself mispronounces his name. That is, assuming he's French and assuming pronunciation hasn't changed from "now". Why does EVERYONE call him "Jean-LOOK"? Why does he call himself that? Maybe he should learn to speak French? 97.103.80.222 ( talk) 21:39, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Jean-Luc Picard, sometimes referred to affectionately by fans as "Captain Bald,"
I haven't seen this used frequently, nor does it appear in Usenet archives or google searches. Citation is needed. -- Kynn ( talk) 18:11, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
This article could use some expansion including exploring the dynamic aspects of the character, like the impact of the events of "The Inner Light" where Picard lives a whole lifetime as a Ressikan, or how his discomfort around children plays out throughout the franchise. Where's the discussion of the tension between Picard and Crusher? What about his holodeck adventures? This article reveals only the broadest strokes to outline a very finely drawn character. ClaudeReigns ( talk) 08:55, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Since the Countdown comic is non-canon, the information in it has no place in Jean-Luc Picard's biography. It would only fit in an Apocrypha section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.236.46.224 ( talk) 01:53, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Let's not add this piece of advertisement to the article. It's not a good measure for the popularity of the character unless there is a reliable source which says so. Offliner ( talk) 04:13, 19 May 2009 (UTC)