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Reference #(3) "The Crematorium of Auschwitz". Few get to see this book but is the original symbol of the Topf company surrounded by the Star of David or is it just happenstance(artwork of the early 1900s)? IE was the Topf company Jewish - never heard that mentioned, probably isn't so. 159.105.80.141 13:01, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I was just reading about Faurisson. He claims that under cross examination in court that Pressac collapsed ( his book and evidence.) Supposedly Presaac more or less denounced his own research and has fallen on hard times with his old pals. Anyone else heard about this? It may be that a denier > believer has returned to denier. 159.105.80.141 ( talk) 17:01, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Channelwatcher ( talk) 19:16, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Presac WAS an holocaust denier, but in the last years of his life he was in France the greatest and the most efficient ennemy of the Holocaust denial. So I propose to remove Pressac out the category of Holocaust deniers. The fact he was really a denier is in the page. We must be fair toward an honest man. José Fontaine ( talk) 21:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
But what about the last interview of Jean-Claude Pressac to Valérie Igounet? What must we think about sentences like "The current form of the presentation of the universe of the camps, however triumphant, is doomed. What will one save? Few things. Indeed"... or "only the facts that are firmly established will survive. The others are destined for the dustbin of history."? Aren't they typical revisionist affirmations? What is "doomed"?. Which facts are not "firmly established" nowadays repecting the nazi camps that could be challenged in the future? Such words are troubling and I am not certain at all that Pressac had not changed his mind on the last days of his life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.146.140.2 ( talk) 07:07, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Interesting. Thanks for listing his discoveries. Zezen ( talk) 08:11, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
He was not a chemist, but just a pharmacist. -- 41.151.57.129 ( talk) 13:51, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
No, Pressac was never a holocaust denier. He was a great man; a holocaust promoter. One of the all-time greats. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.244.152 ( talk) 17:00, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Pressac claims that 1.2 million people were killed in Auschwitz, about 1million of them jews. His estimate is independent, but it agreed with that of others. It's in his book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.73.15.66 ( talk) 17:14, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Jean-Claude Pressac/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
I find the following passage to be confusing:
"These convinced him that his former views were in error, an event he describes in the postface of Auschwitz: Technique and operation of the gas chambers, saying that he "nearly did away with myself one evening in October 1979 in the main camp, the Stammlager, overwhelmed by the evidence and by despair". [1]" What is this supposed to mean; it is ambiguous? Next he speaks of changing his opinion or view; again it is ambiguous. Is it his views on the efficiency of the designs? Dieter Schmied dieter@one.net |
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The article mentions a Zentral Bauleitung der Waffen-SS. Is this the same as the de:Zentralbauleitung der Waffen-SS und Polizei Auschwitz (English: "Central Construction Office of the Waffen-SS and Police Auschwitz"), for which the German-language Wikipedia has an article? -- The Anome ( talk) 18:53, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
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Reference #(3) "The Crematorium of Auschwitz". Few get to see this book but is the original symbol of the Topf company surrounded by the Star of David or is it just happenstance(artwork of the early 1900s)? IE was the Topf company Jewish - never heard that mentioned, probably isn't so. 159.105.80.141 13:01, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I was just reading about Faurisson. He claims that under cross examination in court that Pressac collapsed ( his book and evidence.) Supposedly Presaac more or less denounced his own research and has fallen on hard times with his old pals. Anyone else heard about this? It may be that a denier > believer has returned to denier. 159.105.80.141 ( talk) 17:01, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Channelwatcher ( talk) 19:16, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Presac WAS an holocaust denier, but in the last years of his life he was in France the greatest and the most efficient ennemy of the Holocaust denial. So I propose to remove Pressac out the category of Holocaust deniers. The fact he was really a denier is in the page. We must be fair toward an honest man. José Fontaine ( talk) 21:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
But what about the last interview of Jean-Claude Pressac to Valérie Igounet? What must we think about sentences like "The current form of the presentation of the universe of the camps, however triumphant, is doomed. What will one save? Few things. Indeed"... or "only the facts that are firmly established will survive. The others are destined for the dustbin of history."? Aren't they typical revisionist affirmations? What is "doomed"?. Which facts are not "firmly established" nowadays repecting the nazi camps that could be challenged in the future? Such words are troubling and I am not certain at all that Pressac had not changed his mind on the last days of his life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.146.140.2 ( talk) 07:07, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Interesting. Thanks for listing his discoveries. Zezen ( talk) 08:11, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
He was not a chemist, but just a pharmacist. -- 41.151.57.129 ( talk) 13:51, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
No, Pressac was never a holocaust denier. He was a great man; a holocaust promoter. One of the all-time greats. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.244.152 ( talk) 17:00, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Pressac claims that 1.2 million people were killed in Auschwitz, about 1million of them jews. His estimate is independent, but it agreed with that of others. It's in his book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.73.15.66 ( talk) 17:14, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Jean-Claude Pressac/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
I find the following passage to be confusing:
"These convinced him that his former views were in error, an event he describes in the postface of Auschwitz: Technique and operation of the gas chambers, saying that he "nearly did away with myself one evening in October 1979 in the main camp, the Stammlager, overwhelmed by the evidence and by despair". [1]" What is this supposed to mean; it is ambiguous? Next he speaks of changing his opinion or view; again it is ambiguous. Is it his views on the efficiency of the designs? Dieter Schmied dieter@one.net |
Last edited at 04:50, 10 February 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 19:41, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
The article mentions a Zentral Bauleitung der Waffen-SS. Is this the same as the de:Zentralbauleitung der Waffen-SS und Polizei Auschwitz (English: "Central Construction Office of the Waffen-SS and Police Auschwitz"), for which the German-language Wikipedia has an article? -- The Anome ( talk) 18:53, 20 February 2019 (UTC)