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The "reference" section on Rochambeau's son needs to be split into a separate article. The younger Rochambeau was an ipmortant -- many would say, notorious - figure in his own right because of his actions in the Haitian Reovlution. But he is not well known in the USA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Altaar ( talk • contribs) 17:33, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
I changed the number of troops under Rochambeau's command back to 6,000. It was changed to 7,000 by 66.73.5.118 without reason or reference. University of Michigan says 6000, as well as PBS Not very authoritative, but it's what I found in a quick Google search. - Tallasse 15:33, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Comte de Rochambeau → Jean-Baptiste Donatien de Vimeur, comte de Rochambeau : Specifies which Comte de Rochambeau is the subject of the article; follows pattern of other articles on French nobility. David Kernow 03:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Overall, a very nice start, but I think the introductory sentence should be more explicit as to his significance. This might be my own ethnocentrism coming through, but I feel like it would represent him appropriately to write "... Rochambeau was a French aristocrat, soldier, and Marshal of France. He was one of the most famous French generals to fight in the American Revolution." or something to that effect. Otherwise, you wouldn't even know he was involved in the Revolution at all without looking down three or four paragraphs. LordAmeth 19:19, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I reworded it to the following : "... Rochambeau was a French aristocrat, soldier, and a Marshal of France who participated in the American revolution". Sounds enough for me to show he was an important part of the American Revolution. Feel free to revert it, as being a French can make my sentences NPOV :) CyberBoris 22:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
The number of troops in Rochambeau's army is said to be 6,000 in the french article and 5,000 in this article. if there is a source perhaps one should address this issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.119.209.97 ( talk) 06:04, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
The article title, the bolded part of the first sentence, and other usages throughout the article are not consistent in whether "comte" should have an upper case or lower case "c". I suggest that they should all be consistent, but I don't know personally which is correct. Encyclopedia Britannica (1986 ed, volume 10, and current online edition) shows a lower case "c", ie "Rochambeau, Jean-Baptiste-Donatien de Vimeur, comte de" and/or "Jean-Baptiste-Donatien de Vimeur, comte de Rochambeau".
Shorter Oxford English Dictionary lists comte in lower case, ie it is not a proper noun. (Admittedly this is not as part of a specific person's title.) The wikipedia article
Comte in the third sentence uses upper case C (when not at the beginning of a sentence); similarly for Marquis, Margrave Vicomte - although the same article uses lower case "e" for "earl". Is there some difference in the conventions of English vs French titles?
Can someone shed so authoritative light on the matter?
Mitch Ames (
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02:25, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
I've found some internet references to the rock-scissors-paper game that reference this guy. I find it curious the talk sections of two wikipedia pages for Rochambeau and Rock-Scissors-Paper do not reference each other, let alone the Wiki contents themselves. Can we at least to acknowledge some association, if not deny/confirm it? Was the Rock-Scissors-Paper game renamed for Rochambeau?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=roshambo -- Credits Rochambeau
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1936/whats-the-origin-of-rock-paper-scissors -- Disputes source, but acknowledges Rochambeau
http://teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/23932 -- PhD College Historian says maybe named for Rochambeau
66.193.199.65 ( talk) 17:51, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
Question: I have a hard time believing that Count Rochambeau's family motto is French for "Rock, Paper and Scissors." Assuming that somebody who knows the actual motto would like to edit the page? Pretty amusing, I do have to say.
74.45.33.160 ( talk) 22:42, 15 February 2015 (UTC) mountaingirl1961
In 1780, Rochambeau was appointed commander of land forces as part of the project code-named Expédition Particulière.
"Expédition Particulière" Google translates this to "Private Shipping", and so I wonder if this "code" isn't more contextually obvious than the Article implies. Either way, the english translation should be included as a courtesy to the reader.
2603:8081:3A00:30DF:ACA0:961:675C:DB08 ( talk) 20:57, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
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The "reference" section on Rochambeau's son needs to be split into a separate article. The younger Rochambeau was an ipmortant -- many would say, notorious - figure in his own right because of his actions in the Haitian Reovlution. But he is not well known in the USA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Altaar ( talk • contribs) 17:33, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
I changed the number of troops under Rochambeau's command back to 6,000. It was changed to 7,000 by 66.73.5.118 without reason or reference. University of Michigan says 6000, as well as PBS Not very authoritative, but it's what I found in a quick Google search. - Tallasse 15:33, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Comte de Rochambeau → Jean-Baptiste Donatien de Vimeur, comte de Rochambeau : Specifies which Comte de Rochambeau is the subject of the article; follows pattern of other articles on French nobility. David Kernow 03:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Overall, a very nice start, but I think the introductory sentence should be more explicit as to his significance. This might be my own ethnocentrism coming through, but I feel like it would represent him appropriately to write "... Rochambeau was a French aristocrat, soldier, and Marshal of France. He was one of the most famous French generals to fight in the American Revolution." or something to that effect. Otherwise, you wouldn't even know he was involved in the Revolution at all without looking down three or four paragraphs. LordAmeth 19:19, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I reworded it to the following : "... Rochambeau was a French aristocrat, soldier, and a Marshal of France who participated in the American revolution". Sounds enough for me to show he was an important part of the American Revolution. Feel free to revert it, as being a French can make my sentences NPOV :) CyberBoris 22:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
The number of troops in Rochambeau's army is said to be 6,000 in the french article and 5,000 in this article. if there is a source perhaps one should address this issue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.119.209.97 ( talk) 06:04, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
The article title, the bolded part of the first sentence, and other usages throughout the article are not consistent in whether "comte" should have an upper case or lower case "c". I suggest that they should all be consistent, but I don't know personally which is correct. Encyclopedia Britannica (1986 ed, volume 10, and current online edition) shows a lower case "c", ie "Rochambeau, Jean-Baptiste-Donatien de Vimeur, comte de" and/or "Jean-Baptiste-Donatien de Vimeur, comte de Rochambeau".
Shorter Oxford English Dictionary lists comte in lower case, ie it is not a proper noun. (Admittedly this is not as part of a specific person's title.) The wikipedia article
Comte in the third sentence uses upper case C (when not at the beginning of a sentence); similarly for Marquis, Margrave Vicomte - although the same article uses lower case "e" for "earl". Is there some difference in the conventions of English vs French titles?
Can someone shed so authoritative light on the matter?
Mitch Ames (
talk)
02:25, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
I've found some internet references to the rock-scissors-paper game that reference this guy. I find it curious the talk sections of two wikipedia pages for Rochambeau and Rock-Scissors-Paper do not reference each other, let alone the Wiki contents themselves. Can we at least to acknowledge some association, if not deny/confirm it? Was the Rock-Scissors-Paper game renamed for Rochambeau?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=roshambo -- Credits Rochambeau
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1936/whats-the-origin-of-rock-paper-scissors -- Disputes source, but acknowledges Rochambeau
http://teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/23932 -- PhD College Historian says maybe named for Rochambeau
66.193.199.65 ( talk) 17:51, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
Question: I have a hard time believing that Count Rochambeau's family motto is French for "Rock, Paper and Scissors." Assuming that somebody who knows the actual motto would like to edit the page? Pretty amusing, I do have to say.
74.45.33.160 ( talk) 22:42, 15 February 2015 (UTC) mountaingirl1961
In 1780, Rochambeau was appointed commander of land forces as part of the project code-named Expédition Particulière.
"Expédition Particulière" Google translates this to "Private Shipping", and so I wonder if this "code" isn't more contextually obvious than the Article implies. Either way, the english translation should be included as a courtesy to the reader.
2603:8081:3A00:30DF:ACA0:961:675C:DB08 ( talk) 20:57, 8 June 2024 (UTC)