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The article states the subject "...gained international media attention after a series of videos about her was posted on You Tube.", and what is used as a reference is just a link to the so mentioned "series of videos". While this link proves the existence of the series of videos, it completely fails to support the claim that the article's subject "gained international media attention" after the posting of those videos.
The sentence is tagged as problematic. As being a BLP, I'm going to remove the whole sentence in a short time, if sources are not provided.
Thanks, -- damiens.rf 16:33, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
The sentence is valid as it reads and the only proof needed is the link to her Youtube page. The justification for my statement is that Youtube is nothing if not international media. In fact it is probably the most international of all medias. You can access Youtube from nearly any nation. People from all over the world post, comment and view. Her combined video views of nearly two million back this up. You can further see by reading comments on any of her videos that the people commenting are from all over the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.144.213.97 ( talk) 07:47, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Is it really right to title that section as a "Career"? Wouldn't "activism" be better? —Мандичка YO 😜 01:35, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
The "personal life" section is largely a copy of a paragraph in the previous section. Needs cleaning up! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.31.52.185 ( talk) 13:00, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Could someone add the entry to the LGBT YouTube celebrities category? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.59.86.71 ( talk)
Why is Jazz Jennings Different? I mean, lots of Celebrities use pseudonyms, and their actual names are usually listed on their Wikipedia page. If you are going to insist on removing Jazz Jennings' real surname, then we need to remove birth names from all Celebrity pages. JessicaFaith84 ( talk) 15:15, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
"extra sensitivity" is hardly a rule that can easily be followed--the fact that she's a minor might itself be sufficient. Avocats ( talk) 04:43, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
This image was posted on May 24, 2015 on Flickr under a free license from an organization from Budapest that seems to post many other celebrity photos. Due to the fact that the Jennings live in Florida and it doesn't seem to mention Lwp Kommunikáció anywhere in the article, it probably isn't LWP's own work. MB298 ( talk) 17:32, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
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Please update the first sentence. She is a young trans woman, not an old trans girl.
Thank you!
Dayaware Dayaware ( talk) 22:29, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Jazz Jennings (born October 6, 2000) is an American teenage trans girl, YouTube celebrity, spokesmodel and LGBTQ rights activistand that is accurate. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{ re}} 22:59, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Girl - The word girl is sometimes used to refer to an adult female, usually a younger one. This usage may be considered derogatory or disrespectful in professional or other formal contexts, just as the term boy can be considered disparaging when applied to an adult man. Hence, this usage is often deprecative.
She is a young trans woman, please show respect. Dayaware ( talk) 06:28, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
There is no evidence that using the term "girl" for an individual under the age of 18 is a show of disrespect; one could argue that referring to her as a woman prematurely adultifies and sexualizes her, and I think she is a pioneer for being the first transgender girl, as opposed to woman, to rise to prominence. I don't think anyone would have objected if the tables were turned and this article were about a transgender boy instead. Alanrobts ( talk) 12:35, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Jazz Jennings is 15 years old. I believe the correct definition of a person under 18 is a "girl" or a "boy", whether cis- or transgender. I think it is worthy to make this distinction because Jazz is a pioneer for being the first transgender girl, as opposed to woman, to arise to prominence. Assigning the title "woman" to a 15 year-old (or "man" to a cis or transgender boy also prematurely adultifies and sexualizes these individuals, in my opinion. I'm interested in hearing feedback before I consider correcting this. Alanrobts ( talk) 12:31, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
It appears that I overlooked this issue being discussed in another section above. I personally don't agree with the conclusion that referring to Jazz as a "girl" is a form of professional disrespect, for the reasons I already outlined. "Transgender teen" seems diplomatic enough, but I'm going to pose this question to a transgender activist I know and get her input. I welcome further opinions on the matter. Alanrobts ( talk) 23:34, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
I discussed this with a prominent transgender activist, and we agree that "transgender teenage girl" is more appropriate than "trans woman" here. If the article was about a cisgender 15 year old girl celebrity, I don't think an issue would be raised. The article was originally written as such, but someone protested in an act of what I see as a bit of an overreach. I think she is remarkable for being the first transgender girl to rise to prominence anyway. Alanrobts ( talk) 01:42, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
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Add this page to the "Category:Transgender Jews" Ovrim ( talk) 14:44, 12 July 2016 (UTC) .
Ovrim ( talk) 14:43, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Furthermore, our rules on religious categories on articles about living persons requires the we cite a statement of self-identification as an adherent of the religion before we can add religious categories. A statement that the family is Jewish is not sufficient. We have a separate category Category: American people of Jewish descent for people who are Jewish by descent but who have not made a citable statement of religious identification. Skyerise ( talk) 15:37, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
Source: Bay Area Reporter article from March 16, 2006 http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=654
12.180.133.18 ( talk) 11:52, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
What does this sentence mean? Who "assigned" her as male, and why? I think you mean "was born with male sexual characteristics or genitalia" or genetically XY. (If she were intersex, that would be relevant as well.) To use "assigned male" is really a confusing effort to avoid saying plainly what the facts are. There is a difference between biological presentation and gender identification. (If she chooses not to disclose the information, then something else needs to said. (Given her identification as transgender girl, though, you would reasonably conclude that she was born a biological male. Avocats ( talk) 04:43, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
It isn't standard language used in the real world. 80.229.10.206 ( talk) 14:23, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
In the article about transgender teen Jazz_Jennings it says her last name that she uses is a Pseudonym. In this article here it says it is used in order to maintain the privacy of her family and that used hormone therapy: http://heavy.com/entertainment/2015/07/jazz-jennings-parents-greg-jeanette-transgender-family-daughter-son-twin-i-am-jazz-tlc-tv-twitter/ Is this article reabile enough to use? Swancat ( talk) 02:12, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
It is not a secret about "Jazz Jennings'" real name. It is [redacted]. This is a well-known fact that has been widely reported in the LGBT media. The article is extremely deceptive on a number of fronts, beginning with the notion the [redacted] family is at all anonymous.--SN 30 September 2016 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.100.42.200 ( talk) 21:16, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
A user named Mx. Granger apparently needs things to literally be spelled out to him/her, and thinks that genuine reliable sources constitutes "jumping to conclusions" and "original research", the latter implying not using sources, period. Mx. Granger is convinced that in order to be convinced that Jazz Jennings' birthname is (Redacted) (which, if you type that name into Google by the way, guess who pops up), is an article from 2000 saying: "In the future, (Redacted), will realize he is transgender and start to call herself Jazz, instead". I've had a similar dispute on the Antz article, where I was told calling the film a critical and financial success, which it was and can be proven using facts and numbers and figures, that I was using "original research" and "jumping to conclusions". What the HELL is going on on Wikipedia lately? Sources you don't like is "jumping to conclusions"? Uaing sources is "original research"?
(Redacted)'s birth notice in a Palm Beach newspaper, announcing his birth, and his parents, (Redacted): https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/133861413/
An interview with a woman named (Redacted), and her son, (Redacted), who identifies as a transgender girl: http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=654
And The Daily Mail saying this: "She was 'assigned male at birth', meaning she was born a boy. Her parents, Jeanette and Greg, named their baby son (Redacted).": http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3424571/Teen-transgender-activist-Jazz-Jennings-speaks-sadness-not-having-high-school-boyfriend-fear-called-gay.html
But nah, this is "original research" and "jumping to conclusions" Dpm12 ( talk) 14:47, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
@ BigDwiki: I suggest you quickly decide to discuss the issue here on the talk page. I'm sure User:EvergreenFir is happy to do so. But blindly reverting multiple editors and leaving boilerplate warnings is going to do nothing but attract unwanted attention. GMG talk 20:10, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
I'm not sure why Archibald Leach, Bernard Schwartz or Lucille LeSueur need those names in the lead sentence, and am doubly unsure why Jazz Jennings does. That said, if she's attested to it herself on national TV, I see no reason it would be a BLP violation to include it. 174.30.113.88 ( talk) 03:37, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
I just made a bold change on this page, I replaced the words "Assigned at birth" with a briefer more apt wording. Yes, it's a bold change, no , I will not change it again.
Here's the thing, Assigned at birth links to the page
Sex_assignment, first Wikipedia itself can't be used to source a fact on the page. The second and more compelling reason is that page right away uses a reference that is marked (verbatim quote):
Sex assignment in the neonate with intersex or inadequate genitalia". Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med. 151: 1044–5. doi:10.1001/archpedi.1997.02170470078014. PMID 9343017.
There is no evidence that this occurred with Jazz Jennings. This does not change the fact that she identifies as female, let me be clear on that, rather that "assigned at birth" is an inaccurate description, per all of our reliable sources and as such, cannot be on this page per BLP.
I would say, that in order for that phrase to be accurate, it would have to be reliable sourced that she needed to be assigned a gender due to intersex or inadequate genitalia.
Let the discussion begin.
К Ф Ƽ Ħ 16:00, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
In the majority of births, a relative, midwife, nurse or physician inspects the genitalia when the baby is delivered, and sex and gender are assigned, without the expectation of ambiguity., discusses gender identity more generally.
Here’s a reliable source on the first name issue, it’s an article from a reputable magazine with an interview of the subject stating what the first name is. https://www.glamour.com/story/jazz-jennings-transgender BigDwiki ( talk) 18:08, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
For some reason, you continue to try to add this to the lead sentence. Have you still not read the MOS? EvergreenFir (talk) 14:17, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
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Their edit removed both the reference that concerned them, and the editorial tex it supported.
I checked the reliable sources noticeboard. No one had ever raised a concern over that source there. So, I think that makes their concern a personal opinion, and thus their excision looks like a conflation of their personal opinion with policy.
I briefly looked at the reference's website. It looked kind of like it covered the same kind of material as People magazine. Guess what? People published an article that covered the same key point as the material the contributor excised.
Please don't claim a source is not a reliable source, if a check of RSN shows it has not been discussed there. Geo Swan ( talk) 15:29, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
You are also ignoring that People magazine also published an article documenting the point you excised as not substantiated by a reliable source. Geo Swan ( talk) 19:14, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
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You have this young woman still listed as a transgender girl. She is no longer a girl, she is now 18 and an adult. It should read as "transgender woman". Rjwalsh81 ( talk) 15:57, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Why is she tagged with the category "Pseudonymous women writers"? This seems very transphobic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louize5 ( talk • contribs) 01:20, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
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This page states incorrect information regarding the basis of gender. The pronouns used to describe Jennings are incorrect, and many information has been corrupted. Please allow me to make these changes for the good of all society. Jbarnes32 ( talk) 23:37, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
Currently, a passage in the Jazz Jennings article reads like this: “Jennings, a transgender woman, is notable for being one of the youngest publicly documented people to be identified as transgender.”
I ask that this passage be instead changed to: “Jennings is notable for being one of the youngest publicly documented people to be identified as transgender.”
The reason I request this change is because the passage mentions her transgenderism twice in the same sentence. It already says in the beginning that she is a transgender woman, then goes on to say that she’s publicly documented as transgender. It is redundant, and need not be phrased the way it is now. That is why I request that that passage be changed to the aforementioned passage I have devised, for the sake of clarity. It will read smoother this way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:7580:3160:DDA:C29B:40D8:6587 ( talk) 22:11, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
I made an edit to this article replacing "gender confirmation surgery", a neologism not in widespread use, with "gender reassignment surgery" per MOS:NEO. User:Mathglot reverted, saying that "gender confirmation surgery" was the wording used in the source. I reverted him, because we do not copy terminology from sources like this. He has now arrived at my talk page and is threatening discretionary sanctions because my actions are possibly WP:EW. Someone needs to tell him that he should not have reverted my edit. SCP-053 ( talk) 02:07, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
This is moot; SCP-053 ( talk · contribs) has been indeffed as a block-evading sock. Mathglot ( talk) 00:57, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
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I Am Jazz received A Reality TV Award for best docu-series 2020
https://www.tvshowsace.com/2020/06/26/i-am-jazz-wins-reality-tv-award-for-best-docu-series/ Gnetluvsgreg ( talk) 14:31, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Gnetluvsgreg Gnetluvsgreg ( talk) 14:31, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Pinkpurpleblue.
Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT ( talk) 23:20, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Jennings is an honorary co-founder of the TransKids Purple Rainbow Foundation, which she and her parents founded in 2007 to assist transgender youth.
if this is something she and her parents set up, then she is not an honorary co founder, she would be a co founder (without the honorary modifier). this should be made clearer. if the parents are the founders, and the subject is their muse or whatever, then say that. this part of the article is confusing and unclear, but i am unsure of how to clarify this (plus the article is locked, so i couldn't do so even if i knew how to clarify this). 173.87.173.6 ( talk) 16:28, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
This is a really small edit but I can't make it: in "Career," near the end of the third-to-last paragraph, Jazz appears to be gendered as "they." ("Jennings [said] they were proud to be part of the show...") I do not recall any sources stating she/they as her preferred pronouns, and indeed this is inconsistent with the rest of the article. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.234.79.81 ( talk) 11:45, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
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The article states the subject "...gained international media attention after a series of videos about her was posted on You Tube.", and what is used as a reference is just a link to the so mentioned "series of videos". While this link proves the existence of the series of videos, it completely fails to support the claim that the article's subject "gained international media attention" after the posting of those videos.
The sentence is tagged as problematic. As being a BLP, I'm going to remove the whole sentence in a short time, if sources are not provided.
Thanks, -- damiens.rf 16:33, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
The sentence is valid as it reads and the only proof needed is the link to her Youtube page. The justification for my statement is that Youtube is nothing if not international media. In fact it is probably the most international of all medias. You can access Youtube from nearly any nation. People from all over the world post, comment and view. Her combined video views of nearly two million back this up. You can further see by reading comments on any of her videos that the people commenting are from all over the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.144.213.97 ( talk) 07:47, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Is it really right to title that section as a "Career"? Wouldn't "activism" be better? —Мандичка YO 😜 01:35, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
The "personal life" section is largely a copy of a paragraph in the previous section. Needs cleaning up! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.31.52.185 ( talk) 13:00, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Could someone add the entry to the LGBT YouTube celebrities category? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.59.86.71 ( talk)
Why is Jazz Jennings Different? I mean, lots of Celebrities use pseudonyms, and their actual names are usually listed on their Wikipedia page. If you are going to insist on removing Jazz Jennings' real surname, then we need to remove birth names from all Celebrity pages. JessicaFaith84 ( talk) 15:15, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
"extra sensitivity" is hardly a rule that can easily be followed--the fact that she's a minor might itself be sufficient. Avocats ( talk) 04:43, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
This image was posted on May 24, 2015 on Flickr under a free license from an organization from Budapest that seems to post many other celebrity photos. Due to the fact that the Jennings live in Florida and it doesn't seem to mention Lwp Kommunikáció anywhere in the article, it probably isn't LWP's own work. MB298 ( talk) 17:32, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
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Please update the first sentence. She is a young trans woman, not an old trans girl.
Thank you!
Dayaware Dayaware ( talk) 22:29, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Jazz Jennings (born October 6, 2000) is an American teenage trans girl, YouTube celebrity, spokesmodel and LGBTQ rights activistand that is accurate. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{ re}} 22:59, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Girl - The word girl is sometimes used to refer to an adult female, usually a younger one. This usage may be considered derogatory or disrespectful in professional or other formal contexts, just as the term boy can be considered disparaging when applied to an adult man. Hence, this usage is often deprecative.
She is a young trans woman, please show respect. Dayaware ( talk) 06:28, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
There is no evidence that using the term "girl" for an individual under the age of 18 is a show of disrespect; one could argue that referring to her as a woman prematurely adultifies and sexualizes her, and I think she is a pioneer for being the first transgender girl, as opposed to woman, to rise to prominence. I don't think anyone would have objected if the tables were turned and this article were about a transgender boy instead. Alanrobts ( talk) 12:35, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Jazz Jennings is 15 years old. I believe the correct definition of a person under 18 is a "girl" or a "boy", whether cis- or transgender. I think it is worthy to make this distinction because Jazz is a pioneer for being the first transgender girl, as opposed to woman, to arise to prominence. Assigning the title "woman" to a 15 year-old (or "man" to a cis or transgender boy also prematurely adultifies and sexualizes these individuals, in my opinion. I'm interested in hearing feedback before I consider correcting this. Alanrobts ( talk) 12:31, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
It appears that I overlooked this issue being discussed in another section above. I personally don't agree with the conclusion that referring to Jazz as a "girl" is a form of professional disrespect, for the reasons I already outlined. "Transgender teen" seems diplomatic enough, but I'm going to pose this question to a transgender activist I know and get her input. I welcome further opinions on the matter. Alanrobts ( talk) 23:34, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
I discussed this with a prominent transgender activist, and we agree that "transgender teenage girl" is more appropriate than "trans woman" here. If the article was about a cisgender 15 year old girl celebrity, I don't think an issue would be raised. The article was originally written as such, but someone protested in an act of what I see as a bit of an overreach. I think she is remarkable for being the first transgender girl to rise to prominence anyway. Alanrobts ( talk) 01:42, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
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Add this page to the "Category:Transgender Jews" Ovrim ( talk) 14:44, 12 July 2016 (UTC) .
Ovrim ( talk) 14:43, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Furthermore, our rules on religious categories on articles about living persons requires the we cite a statement of self-identification as an adherent of the religion before we can add religious categories. A statement that the family is Jewish is not sufficient. We have a separate category Category: American people of Jewish descent for people who are Jewish by descent but who have not made a citable statement of religious identification. Skyerise ( talk) 15:37, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
Source: Bay Area Reporter article from March 16, 2006 http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=654
12.180.133.18 ( talk) 11:52, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
What does this sentence mean? Who "assigned" her as male, and why? I think you mean "was born with male sexual characteristics or genitalia" or genetically XY. (If she were intersex, that would be relevant as well.) To use "assigned male" is really a confusing effort to avoid saying plainly what the facts are. There is a difference between biological presentation and gender identification. (If she chooses not to disclose the information, then something else needs to said. (Given her identification as transgender girl, though, you would reasonably conclude that she was born a biological male. Avocats ( talk) 04:43, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
It isn't standard language used in the real world. 80.229.10.206 ( talk) 14:23, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
In the article about transgender teen Jazz_Jennings it says her last name that she uses is a Pseudonym. In this article here it says it is used in order to maintain the privacy of her family and that used hormone therapy: http://heavy.com/entertainment/2015/07/jazz-jennings-parents-greg-jeanette-transgender-family-daughter-son-twin-i-am-jazz-tlc-tv-twitter/ Is this article reabile enough to use? Swancat ( talk) 02:12, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
It is not a secret about "Jazz Jennings'" real name. It is [redacted]. This is a well-known fact that has been widely reported in the LGBT media. The article is extremely deceptive on a number of fronts, beginning with the notion the [redacted] family is at all anonymous.--SN 30 September 2016 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.100.42.200 ( talk) 21:16, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
A user named Mx. Granger apparently needs things to literally be spelled out to him/her, and thinks that genuine reliable sources constitutes "jumping to conclusions" and "original research", the latter implying not using sources, period. Mx. Granger is convinced that in order to be convinced that Jazz Jennings' birthname is (Redacted) (which, if you type that name into Google by the way, guess who pops up), is an article from 2000 saying: "In the future, (Redacted), will realize he is transgender and start to call herself Jazz, instead". I've had a similar dispute on the Antz article, where I was told calling the film a critical and financial success, which it was and can be proven using facts and numbers and figures, that I was using "original research" and "jumping to conclusions". What the HELL is going on on Wikipedia lately? Sources you don't like is "jumping to conclusions"? Uaing sources is "original research"?
(Redacted)'s birth notice in a Palm Beach newspaper, announcing his birth, and his parents, (Redacted): https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/133861413/
An interview with a woman named (Redacted), and her son, (Redacted), who identifies as a transgender girl: http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=654
And The Daily Mail saying this: "She was 'assigned male at birth', meaning she was born a boy. Her parents, Jeanette and Greg, named their baby son (Redacted).": http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3424571/Teen-transgender-activist-Jazz-Jennings-speaks-sadness-not-having-high-school-boyfriend-fear-called-gay.html
But nah, this is "original research" and "jumping to conclusions" Dpm12 ( talk) 14:47, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
@ BigDwiki: I suggest you quickly decide to discuss the issue here on the talk page. I'm sure User:EvergreenFir is happy to do so. But blindly reverting multiple editors and leaving boilerplate warnings is going to do nothing but attract unwanted attention. GMG talk 20:10, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
I'm not sure why Archibald Leach, Bernard Schwartz or Lucille LeSueur need those names in the lead sentence, and am doubly unsure why Jazz Jennings does. That said, if she's attested to it herself on national TV, I see no reason it would be a BLP violation to include it. 174.30.113.88 ( talk) 03:37, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
I just made a bold change on this page, I replaced the words "Assigned at birth" with a briefer more apt wording. Yes, it's a bold change, no , I will not change it again.
Here's the thing, Assigned at birth links to the page
Sex_assignment, first Wikipedia itself can't be used to source a fact on the page. The second and more compelling reason is that page right away uses a reference that is marked (verbatim quote):
Sex assignment in the neonate with intersex or inadequate genitalia". Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med. 151: 1044–5. doi:10.1001/archpedi.1997.02170470078014. PMID 9343017.
There is no evidence that this occurred with Jazz Jennings. This does not change the fact that she identifies as female, let me be clear on that, rather that "assigned at birth" is an inaccurate description, per all of our reliable sources and as such, cannot be on this page per BLP.
I would say, that in order for that phrase to be accurate, it would have to be reliable sourced that she needed to be assigned a gender due to intersex or inadequate genitalia.
Let the discussion begin.
К Ф Ƽ Ħ 16:00, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
In the majority of births, a relative, midwife, nurse or physician inspects the genitalia when the baby is delivered, and sex and gender are assigned, without the expectation of ambiguity., discusses gender identity more generally.
Here’s a reliable source on the first name issue, it’s an article from a reputable magazine with an interview of the subject stating what the first name is. https://www.glamour.com/story/jazz-jennings-transgender BigDwiki ( talk) 18:08, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
For some reason, you continue to try to add this to the lead sentence. Have you still not read the MOS? EvergreenFir (talk) 14:17, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
In this edit, a contributor made a reversion with the edit summary:
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Their edit removed both the reference that concerned them, and the editorial tex it supported.
I checked the reliable sources noticeboard. No one had ever raised a concern over that source there. So, I think that makes their concern a personal opinion, and thus their excision looks like a conflation of their personal opinion with policy.
I briefly looked at the reference's website. It looked kind of like it covered the same kind of material as People magazine. Guess what? People published an article that covered the same key point as the material the contributor excised.
Please don't claim a source is not a reliable source, if a check of RSN shows it has not been discussed there. Geo Swan ( talk) 15:29, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
You are also ignoring that People magazine also published an article documenting the point you excised as not substantiated by a reliable source. Geo Swan ( talk) 19:14, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
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You have this young woman still listed as a transgender girl. She is no longer a girl, she is now 18 and an adult. It should read as "transgender woman". Rjwalsh81 ( talk) 15:57, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Why is she tagged with the category "Pseudonymous women writers"? This seems very transphobic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louize5 ( talk • contribs) 01:20, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
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This page states incorrect information regarding the basis of gender. The pronouns used to describe Jennings are incorrect, and many information has been corrupted. Please allow me to make these changes for the good of all society. Jbarnes32 ( talk) 23:37, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
Currently, a passage in the Jazz Jennings article reads like this: “Jennings, a transgender woman, is notable for being one of the youngest publicly documented people to be identified as transgender.”
I ask that this passage be instead changed to: “Jennings is notable for being one of the youngest publicly documented people to be identified as transgender.”
The reason I request this change is because the passage mentions her transgenderism twice in the same sentence. It already says in the beginning that she is a transgender woman, then goes on to say that she’s publicly documented as transgender. It is redundant, and need not be phrased the way it is now. That is why I request that that passage be changed to the aforementioned passage I have devised, for the sake of clarity. It will read smoother this way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:7580:3160:DDA:C29B:40D8:6587 ( talk) 22:11, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
I made an edit to this article replacing "gender confirmation surgery", a neologism not in widespread use, with "gender reassignment surgery" per MOS:NEO. User:Mathglot reverted, saying that "gender confirmation surgery" was the wording used in the source. I reverted him, because we do not copy terminology from sources like this. He has now arrived at my talk page and is threatening discretionary sanctions because my actions are possibly WP:EW. Someone needs to tell him that he should not have reverted my edit. SCP-053 ( talk) 02:07, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
This is moot; SCP-053 ( talk · contribs) has been indeffed as a block-evading sock. Mathglot ( talk) 00:57, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
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I Am Jazz received A Reality TV Award for best docu-series 2020
https://www.tvshowsace.com/2020/06/26/i-am-jazz-wins-reality-tv-award-for-best-docu-series/ Gnetluvsgreg ( talk) 14:31, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
Gnetluvsgreg Gnetluvsgreg ( talk) 14:31, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Pinkpurpleblue.
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Jennings is an honorary co-founder of the TransKids Purple Rainbow Foundation, which she and her parents founded in 2007 to assist transgender youth.
if this is something she and her parents set up, then she is not an honorary co founder, she would be a co founder (without the honorary modifier). this should be made clearer. if the parents are the founders, and the subject is their muse or whatever, then say that. this part of the article is confusing and unclear, but i am unsure of how to clarify this (plus the article is locked, so i couldn't do so even if i knew how to clarify this). 173.87.173.6 ( talk) 16:28, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
This is a really small edit but I can't make it: in "Career," near the end of the third-to-last paragraph, Jazz appears to be gendered as "they." ("Jennings [said] they were proud to be part of the show...") I do not recall any sources stating she/they as her preferred pronouns, and indeed this is inconsistent with the rest of the article. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.234.79.81 ( talk) 11:45, 12 March 2022 (UTC)