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Some of the material on the page doesn't conform to the wikipedia policy of neutrality. For example, the comment about global warming. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmp717200 ( talk • contribs) 19:20, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Richards has online lectures and published articles affirming the reality of global warming, but questioning the extent of human influence on the same (for example, http://www.acton.org/media/20080417_christians_and_global_warming.php). The statement "expressed skepticism about global warming" is therefore inaccurate, pejorative and fails to capture that distinction. GinnySue ( talk) 05:08, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
That's funny, Hrafn, because I detected no such partiality in the argument she just provided, and I detect a LOT of hostility to his viewpoint in your unwillingness to examine a cited source. Perhaps you should not be editing this article? Since I am pretty sure Wikipedia is opposed to Gestapo-like scare speech as used to intimidate or annoy other editors, or impugn them to an audience, maybe, just maybe, calling someone out for thinking positively about Richards as though that has anything to do with the issues they take with your presentation of his views as misrepresentative might be a really bad way to go.
Also, you're listed as a Wikidarwinian on your bio page. While I am a fan of free discourse and whatnot, properly done, you don't think that MIGHT conceal a little bias against Intelligent Design?
TonalHarmony ( talk) 22:23, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone have any information about this persons educational background? Or what he did before becoming an author, spokensman. Anything on his bona fides? 99.64.210.32 ( talk) 03:43, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
This edit, by GinnySue cited the following unreliable and/or WP:SELFPUB sources:
Additionally, the language introduced by the edit was POV and unencyclopaedic. Hrafn Talk Stalk( P) 02:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I would further point out that the claims that Richards ceased working for Acton in 2008, and that he is "a Contributing Editor of The American" are entirely unsupported by cited sources (unreliable or otherwise). Claiming that he is a "documentary producer" on the basis of a single direct-to-DVD production that appears to have received no notice beyond his own self-published sources is "unduly self-serving". I would suggest prominent, reliable third party coverage before such claims should be included in the article. Hrafn Talk Stalk( P) 05:08, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Speaking as one with a wee bit more familiarity with Jay and his work than Hrafn, given that Jay was my boss while I interned at the Acton Institute in the summer of '08, this wanton skepticism with respect to his biographical details *reeks* of POV and hostility on the part of Hrafn. While I could not corroborate this work of my own without giving out too-personal information to someone who seems rather hostile towards a member of an organization for which I once worked, and a rather snarky editor at that, I would refer the audience to this:
http://blog.acton.org/archives/1947-what-would-jesus-drive-jay-w-richards-in-nro.html
and this:
http://www.acton.org/category/social-tags/jay-richards
and this:
http://www.acton.org/category/person/jay-w-richards
And as to the subject of assisting and even leading Acton's documentary production (none of which Hrafn has watched, CLEARLY, since he is in all the cited documentaries as a speaking part), the last link attests that he was working with Acton Media at the time of those documentaries which Acton produced. Call of the Entrepreneur, Effective Stewardship, and Birth of Freedom were EACH Acton documentaries on which he assisted. Consider me an expert witness, since I helped distribute them; furthermore, I was there at some of their filming, assisting Jay, who was in the room with the interviewed voices.
Furthermore, while I will not relate any personal interactions, Jay's work on other projects was dominating much of his time in 2008, and when I called him the next semester he had already left Acton to work on his own projects. So that data, if not cited, is entirely correct. Moreover, that he is a contributing editor at the American is something one may deduce from the bio blurb at the bottom of any of his SIX ARTICLES in that periodical. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]
The blurb: "Jay W. Richards, PhD, is a senior fellow and director of research at Discovery Institute, a contributing editor to THE AMERICAN, and author of Money, Greed, and God: Why Capitalism is the Solution and Not the Problem."
At the risk of sounding rude, perhaps Hrafn should take a few deep breaths and step away from the keyboard for a while if this is his typical modus operandi, shooting down sources without REALLY consulting any expertise but his own. I mean, cripes, it only takes a Google search! TonalHarmony ( talk) 22:08, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
"Speaking as one with a wee bit more familiarity with" Wikipedia policy than TonalHarmony, I would point out that his comment:
I would further point out:
Hrafn Talk Stalk( P) 05:40, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
References
As far as I see, Richards isn't listed as member of the staff at Actons Institute. I've not found a current document on Acton's site, which states his current function. I only find him mentioned als author or "guest". -- Parzi ( talk) 05:37, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
He WAS, at least while I was there in 2008, a Research Fellow and he worked with Acton Media. Here's a source.
http://www.acton.org/media/audio/folly-universal-health-care
"Dr. Jay Richards, Acton Research Fellow and Director of Acton Media"
TonalHarmony ( talk) 22:11, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Why is there so much trivial detail about a few things that Richards said in his debate with Hitchens? It doesn't seem to add much even about the philosophy that he holds. The last paragraph talking about catching a pen not violating gravity seems completely unnecessary and adding nothing. Personally I thought it was an incredibly stupid non-sequitor when he brought it up in the debate, and it seems just as out of place here. I may be biased, though, so I'll not edit it. But I'll call attention to it, and if someone wants to justify it or remove it... Snakesonaplane1988 ( talk) 01:08, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Honors are almost (but not completely) exclusively used for undergraduate degrees. This is the first time I've ever heard of the designation applied to a doctorate. I searched around on ptsem.edu for "honors" but most of the mentions were either not in the context of a degree modifier at all, or were in the bios of various faculty, and most of those were attached to undergrad degrees. I couldn't find any mention of the PhD from PTSEM being awarded with any of the usual "with honors" designations. None of this means the title is invalid, but since it is so unusual I think it would improve the article's robustness if additional, more independent sources were provided. 71.189.127.192 ( talk) 11:11, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
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Some of the material on the page doesn't conform to the wikipedia policy of neutrality. For example, the comment about global warming. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmp717200 ( talk • contribs) 19:20, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Richards has online lectures and published articles affirming the reality of global warming, but questioning the extent of human influence on the same (for example, http://www.acton.org/media/20080417_christians_and_global_warming.php). The statement "expressed skepticism about global warming" is therefore inaccurate, pejorative and fails to capture that distinction. GinnySue ( talk) 05:08, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
That's funny, Hrafn, because I detected no such partiality in the argument she just provided, and I detect a LOT of hostility to his viewpoint in your unwillingness to examine a cited source. Perhaps you should not be editing this article? Since I am pretty sure Wikipedia is opposed to Gestapo-like scare speech as used to intimidate or annoy other editors, or impugn them to an audience, maybe, just maybe, calling someone out for thinking positively about Richards as though that has anything to do with the issues they take with your presentation of his views as misrepresentative might be a really bad way to go.
Also, you're listed as a Wikidarwinian on your bio page. While I am a fan of free discourse and whatnot, properly done, you don't think that MIGHT conceal a little bias against Intelligent Design?
TonalHarmony ( talk) 22:23, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone have any information about this persons educational background? Or what he did before becoming an author, spokensman. Anything on his bona fides? 99.64.210.32 ( talk) 03:43, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
This edit, by GinnySue cited the following unreliable and/or WP:SELFPUB sources:
Additionally, the language introduced by the edit was POV and unencyclopaedic. Hrafn Talk Stalk( P) 02:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I would further point out that the claims that Richards ceased working for Acton in 2008, and that he is "a Contributing Editor of The American" are entirely unsupported by cited sources (unreliable or otherwise). Claiming that he is a "documentary producer" on the basis of a single direct-to-DVD production that appears to have received no notice beyond his own self-published sources is "unduly self-serving". I would suggest prominent, reliable third party coverage before such claims should be included in the article. Hrafn Talk Stalk( P) 05:08, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Speaking as one with a wee bit more familiarity with Jay and his work than Hrafn, given that Jay was my boss while I interned at the Acton Institute in the summer of '08, this wanton skepticism with respect to his biographical details *reeks* of POV and hostility on the part of Hrafn. While I could not corroborate this work of my own without giving out too-personal information to someone who seems rather hostile towards a member of an organization for which I once worked, and a rather snarky editor at that, I would refer the audience to this:
http://blog.acton.org/archives/1947-what-would-jesus-drive-jay-w-richards-in-nro.html
and this:
http://www.acton.org/category/social-tags/jay-richards
and this:
http://www.acton.org/category/person/jay-w-richards
And as to the subject of assisting and even leading Acton's documentary production (none of which Hrafn has watched, CLEARLY, since he is in all the cited documentaries as a speaking part), the last link attests that he was working with Acton Media at the time of those documentaries which Acton produced. Call of the Entrepreneur, Effective Stewardship, and Birth of Freedom were EACH Acton documentaries on which he assisted. Consider me an expert witness, since I helped distribute them; furthermore, I was there at some of their filming, assisting Jay, who was in the room with the interviewed voices.
Furthermore, while I will not relate any personal interactions, Jay's work on other projects was dominating much of his time in 2008, and when I called him the next semester he had already left Acton to work on his own projects. So that data, if not cited, is entirely correct. Moreover, that he is a contributing editor at the American is something one may deduce from the bio blurb at the bottom of any of his SIX ARTICLES in that periodical. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]
The blurb: "Jay W. Richards, PhD, is a senior fellow and director of research at Discovery Institute, a contributing editor to THE AMERICAN, and author of Money, Greed, and God: Why Capitalism is the Solution and Not the Problem."
At the risk of sounding rude, perhaps Hrafn should take a few deep breaths and step away from the keyboard for a while if this is his typical modus operandi, shooting down sources without REALLY consulting any expertise but his own. I mean, cripes, it only takes a Google search! TonalHarmony ( talk) 22:08, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
"Speaking as one with a wee bit more familiarity with" Wikipedia policy than TonalHarmony, I would point out that his comment:
I would further point out:
Hrafn Talk Stalk( P) 05:40, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
References
As far as I see, Richards isn't listed as member of the staff at Actons Institute. I've not found a current document on Acton's site, which states his current function. I only find him mentioned als author or "guest". -- Parzi ( talk) 05:37, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
He WAS, at least while I was there in 2008, a Research Fellow and he worked with Acton Media. Here's a source.
http://www.acton.org/media/audio/folly-universal-health-care
"Dr. Jay Richards, Acton Research Fellow and Director of Acton Media"
TonalHarmony ( talk) 22:11, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Why is there so much trivial detail about a few things that Richards said in his debate with Hitchens? It doesn't seem to add much even about the philosophy that he holds. The last paragraph talking about catching a pen not violating gravity seems completely unnecessary and adding nothing. Personally I thought it was an incredibly stupid non-sequitor when he brought it up in the debate, and it seems just as out of place here. I may be biased, though, so I'll not edit it. But I'll call attention to it, and if someone wants to justify it or remove it... Snakesonaplane1988 ( talk) 01:08, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Honors are almost (but not completely) exclusively used for undergraduate degrees. This is the first time I've ever heard of the designation applied to a doctorate. I searched around on ptsem.edu for "honors" but most of the mentions were either not in the context of a degree modifier at all, or were in the bios of various faculty, and most of those were attached to undergrad degrees. I couldn't find any mention of the PhD from PTSEM being awarded with any of the usual "with honors" designations. None of this means the title is invalid, but since it is so unusual I think it would improve the article's robustness if additional, more independent sources were provided. 71.189.127.192 ( talk) 11:11, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
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