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This athlete definately lacks notability
I found a few more links, but none from a trustworthy independent source:
This rider might have trained like a professional, might have inspired junior riders, but his speed skating results show an amateur level. Pedro Causil, the actual first South-American to enter the Winter Olympic skate event, has times that are close to those of Germán Tirado, a current Colombian 5000 meter World Cup Group B rider. Ramirez is half a minute slower on the 1500 meter (1.48,82 / 2.18,49), 2 minutes on the 5000 meter (6.30,70 / 8.29,59), almost 4 minutes on the 10,000 meter (13.35,29 / 17.26,73). Those are the same gaps Ramirez would be behind all the other real competitors at the Olympics.
That's why Ramirez races on club level, like the traditional yearly races of the "Schaatstrainingsgroep Wageningen" (STW) in Heerenveen, where he finished a allround race as 19th of 21, and set a big combination score. Or what looks like team exchange races in Germany. Jay ends up as the first Senior, but also 21st of 29 in a field of mostly juniors and a few old men. On the 1500 meter he's 5th of 5.
His only by Speed Skating News reported " win in an international race", turns out to be a training race with a few kids and his 60+ old trainer. He's the only senior in the group, and he beats a (almost or just) 14 year old by only 5 hundreds of a second, what a champion! The race is 700 meter long, a very unusual distance. He's the only non-Dutch, but is a regular member of the group: that's a local club's training session.
Every registered skater from Colombia before him, Leonardo and Camilo Echeverri, and Sebastian Cano, was distinctly faster on the distances they did ride. In case of Leonardo, that was only one 500 and one 1500 meter race registered on one day ever. Jay won his inofficial records, only because he was the first Colombian to cross that distance's finish line.
Now we know how poor the results are, after 2.5 season of training, it's obvious that this man competing at the Olympic Games is an absurd idea. When you read the bottom part of the Colombia Reports article, it looks more like a money raising advertisement. This guy needed $39,000 per year to start a professional skating carreer, even before he knew how "good" he was at speed skating.
Emmarade ( talk) 10:53, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
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This athlete definately lacks notability
I found a few more links, but none from a trustworthy independent source:
This rider might have trained like a professional, might have inspired junior riders, but his speed skating results show an amateur level. Pedro Causil, the actual first South-American to enter the Winter Olympic skate event, has times that are close to those of Germán Tirado, a current Colombian 5000 meter World Cup Group B rider. Ramirez is half a minute slower on the 1500 meter (1.48,82 / 2.18,49), 2 minutes on the 5000 meter (6.30,70 / 8.29,59), almost 4 minutes on the 10,000 meter (13.35,29 / 17.26,73). Those are the same gaps Ramirez would be behind all the other real competitors at the Olympics.
That's why Ramirez races on club level, like the traditional yearly races of the "Schaatstrainingsgroep Wageningen" (STW) in Heerenveen, where he finished a allround race as 19th of 21, and set a big combination score. Or what looks like team exchange races in Germany. Jay ends up as the first Senior, but also 21st of 29 in a field of mostly juniors and a few old men. On the 1500 meter he's 5th of 5.
His only by Speed Skating News reported " win in an international race", turns out to be a training race with a few kids and his 60+ old trainer. He's the only senior in the group, and he beats a (almost or just) 14 year old by only 5 hundreds of a second, what a champion! The race is 700 meter long, a very unusual distance. He's the only non-Dutch, but is a regular member of the group: that's a local club's training session.
Every registered skater from Colombia before him, Leonardo and Camilo Echeverri, and Sebastian Cano, was distinctly faster on the distances they did ride. In case of Leonardo, that was only one 500 and one 1500 meter race registered on one day ever. Jay won his inofficial records, only because he was the first Colombian to cross that distance's finish line.
Now we know how poor the results are, after 2.5 season of training, it's obvious that this man competing at the Olympic Games is an absurd idea. When you read the bottom part of the Colombia Reports article, it looks more like a money raising advertisement. This guy needed $39,000 per year to start a professional skating carreer, even before he knew how "good" he was at speed skating.
Emmarade ( talk) 10:53, 19 December 2021 (UTC)