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I wondered what is the current status of Java web start and JNLP. Googling around I saw many few implementations beside Sun's reference implementation. Most of them are dead projects (e.g. openJNLP, netx).
I think there should be a section describing the current status, relevance and usage percentage of JWS/JNLP around the world vs. alternatives (in Java and in other languages/environments).
A section with current and previous/dead JNLP implementation projects would also be a good think to have. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.179.92.170 ( talk) 12:01, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
It's not even clear whether Sun currently supports it or not. On Sun's webpage they say you get javaws as part of JRE 5.0, but then if you actually install JRE 5.0 you'll see there is no javaws. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.196.244.178 ( talk) 20:05, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Using the security vulnerability search here: nvd.nist.gov by entering search term: java "web start" it finds over 20 holes from past 3 years. The article says Microsoft's "clickonce" is the equivalent technology, however there's 0 holes found for that technology.
In another comparison the whole Java package "JRE" has 50+ hits where the MS equivalent ".NET framework" had considerably less hits in the same 3 year search window.
I would not have bothered doing this comparison but certain large international banks are now mandating that all web bank users need to install JRE "in the name of security" (possibly also web start with it, I cancelled my bank account rather than find out). Given that the MS equivalent technology "clickonce" already comes installed and cannot be removed with the computer it's quite unreasonable to ask users to open even larger attack surface that's already known to be riddled with holes by the way of installing this.
Sorry for going off topic but imagine if your bank suddenly required you to switch to Windows Vista to use them. This is the equivalent thing if you happen to use say a smart/mobile phone to do internet banking and JRE isn't available to the mobile phone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.115.113.221 ( talk) 14:20, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
The article lists some advantages over applets, but I was wondering if there are any disadvantages. Is it true, for example, that Java Web Start programs cannot run without the user giving permission? In contrast, applets (like Clesh should run automatically. Stephen B Streater 21:08, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
If the application asks for additional (or even all) permissions in its JNLP file, it will not run unless signed or self-signed. If it is self-signed, a horrible warning will be shown. No warning should be shown if no permissions are requested but then the application cannot do much more than applet. Audriusa ( talk) 09:01, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
A few of the external links are broken (could it have to do with sun being acquired by oracle?). I have no idea where the real pages are, but perhaps someone else does. If so please fix the links! 75.40.251.51 ( talk) 18:49, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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I wondered what is the current status of Java web start and JNLP. Googling around I saw many few implementations beside Sun's reference implementation. Most of them are dead projects (e.g. openJNLP, netx).
I think there should be a section describing the current status, relevance and usage percentage of JWS/JNLP around the world vs. alternatives (in Java and in other languages/environments).
A section with current and previous/dead JNLP implementation projects would also be a good think to have. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.179.92.170 ( talk) 12:01, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
It's not even clear whether Sun currently supports it or not. On Sun's webpage they say you get javaws as part of JRE 5.0, but then if you actually install JRE 5.0 you'll see there is no javaws. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.196.244.178 ( talk) 20:05, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Using the security vulnerability search here: nvd.nist.gov by entering search term: java "web start" it finds over 20 holes from past 3 years. The article says Microsoft's "clickonce" is the equivalent technology, however there's 0 holes found for that technology.
In another comparison the whole Java package "JRE" has 50+ hits where the MS equivalent ".NET framework" had considerably less hits in the same 3 year search window.
I would not have bothered doing this comparison but certain large international banks are now mandating that all web bank users need to install JRE "in the name of security" (possibly also web start with it, I cancelled my bank account rather than find out). Given that the MS equivalent technology "clickonce" already comes installed and cannot be removed with the computer it's quite unreasonable to ask users to open even larger attack surface that's already known to be riddled with holes by the way of installing this.
Sorry for going off topic but imagine if your bank suddenly required you to switch to Windows Vista to use them. This is the equivalent thing if you happen to use say a smart/mobile phone to do internet banking and JRE isn't available to the mobile phone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.115.113.221 ( talk) 14:20, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
The article lists some advantages over applets, but I was wondering if there are any disadvantages. Is it true, for example, that Java Web Start programs cannot run without the user giving permission? In contrast, applets (like Clesh should run automatically. Stephen B Streater 21:08, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
If the application asks for additional (or even all) permissions in its JNLP file, it will not run unless signed or self-signed. If it is self-signed, a horrible warning will be shown. No warning should be shown if no permissions are requested but then the application cannot do much more than applet. Audriusa ( talk) 09:01, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
A few of the external links are broken (could it have to do with sun being acquired by oracle?). I have no idea where the real pages are, but perhaps someone else does. If so please fix the links! 75.40.251.51 ( talk) 18:49, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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