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I brought this up on the Scrubs talk page - Someone had included the trivia that Janitor's real name will be revealed by Bill Lawrence after the show ends. I can't find any sort of information backing this up (interviews, DVD commentary, etc), so I've removed it. Feel free to revert it if anyone can find a source. -- Zybergoat 10:28, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
I believe his name may be "Tom" - in 511, "My Buddy's Booty", at about 18:51, the man in the blue jacket standing towards the camera sounds like he says "Nice one Tom" to the Janitor when he makes a fool of Dr. Cox. Is he actually saying "Nice one Tom" or "Nice return"? -- Fragsta 22:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
I just read something at MovieMistakes.com - because Neil Flynn actually played the security guard in The Fugitive, and so did the character The Janitor, then Neil Flynn is playing the part of himself - otherwise, Scrubs is set in a different universe to ours. Otherwise the Scrubs team would have a bit of a continuity error on their hands, eh? And we all know they don't like that. -- Fragsta 23:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
In the episode with Dick Van Dyke, when he passes janitor in the hallway, he says "hey, _____" or something to that effect. Would someone look into that? Thnx 72.65.129.40 19:27, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
There was an episode where the janitor pretended to be a doctor called Dr. Ján Itor. Maybe that is his real name (in the series) User:Shadow Kratos 19:38 18 April 2007 (UTC)
K, two things. First of all, I personally think this should be titled "The Janitor", not just "Janitor", but that might be just me. Secondly, this article quotes what the Janitor says to JD (such as his wife only having three fingers) as though it were a true fact of his life; I always take what he says to JD to be mocking, as part of his "bullying role". A lot of what he says may or may not be true, there's really no proof of this.-- The Wizard of Magicland 11:41, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I agree. It might make more sense to re-label that section as "Alleged Family History" -- 69.183.42.41 17:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Mmm.. I don't know, I've heard him be referred to The Janitor as much as just Janitor, if not more. With the "Alleged Family History", that would be hard because most of the other points aren't really to do with his family. Crankytoad 20:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
His name is just Janitor. The Clydelishes Clyde 23:50, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
"He speaks Spanish and Korean as well as English, being also able to pull off, convincingly, at least 3 different accents of English ("My Friend the Doctor")." It seems that the convincingly part is a POV and my POV is that they are not convincing at all!!! Standardelephant 19:03, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
actually, that they are not convincing is YOUr POV, which we are supposed to avoid? the fact of the matter is the folks at the hospital were indeed convinced by his accent, so who's to say otherwise?
i must declare that i was the one who wrote this so i may be biased, would welcome other comments :) ahwang 06:00, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm merely stating that whether the accents were convincing or not is a point of view, I was stating mine is that they weren't convincing which of course I would not put in an article as it is MY point of view which as you point out shouldn't be in an article. I believe as an Englishman (with quite a strong regional accent) I am quite qualified to know if an English accent sounds right or some mish mash of various stereotypical english accents, having noticed you are from Singapore I must say I would never dream of stating that someone trying to speak Malay in a Singaporean accent was convincing or unconvincing especially when told by a Singaporean that it wasn't. I do see your point about the people at the hospital believing he was English maybe the article could be changed along the lines of him being able to successfully fool the staff into believing he was English Standardelephant 17:19, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I kinda thought it meant the accents convinced the show characters he was trying to convince. -- 69.183.42.41 17:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I would be concerned with POV if this occurred in real life. But since this is fictional, we are only concerned with the show's POV. That's not to say that a British character on the show would find it unconvincing. -- Macrowiz 17:59, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
This could be solved quite easily if you just change it say something like 'everyone in the hospital is fooled by his dialects, with the exception of JD' or similar. That way its not POV as people in the hospital are truly convinced by his (rather shoddy) impressions. Crankytoad 19:25, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
"although his bullying tendencies only seem to be in jest and as a break in his cleaning routine rather than actually being mean-spirited, as he has never actually physically harmed or criminally harassed anyone." This is simply not true. I am sure the kidnapping and placing inside the water tower of J.D. in S05E19 "His Story III" was criminal and physically harmful. Removed for now. 58.6.42.80 23:41, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm just curious about an explanation of how beating someone with a sockfull of nickels could be considered being OCD? Certainly doesn't seem like it could be an indication of a "correct diagnosis." In fact I'm pretty sure that was the intended joke. I think it should be changed.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.134.222.196 ( talk) 22:20, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I Think the quote was something to effect of "My grandfather had OCD too, every morning when he woke up he would beat us with a sock full of nickels." Though I'm not sure of the exact quote, perhaps that note should be added. 76.18.84.254 05:07, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, the whole quote is:
So the Janitor does actually believe it was an OCD, does that count though? Crankytoad 19:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, if he did it every morning, as he says, it could be considered OCD, as he feels the need to do it every morning. Though, that is just how I see it. Neospawn 16:41, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I think the joke is in the switcheroo from a buildup suggesting OCD (a seemingly pointless ritual) to the revelation that the ritual has a purpose of mere mundane brutality. — Tamfang 00:24, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Even though he doesn't mean to, JD does occasionally do horrible things to the Janitor, such as ruin his shirt, pull the ladder out from him, track mud on his floors, etc.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.76.112.227 ( talk) 08:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
In any case, I'm not sure about the first one but JD didn't no The Janitor was using the ladder, nor did he mean to track mud on the floors, he specifically tried to avoid The Janitor at that point... Crankytoad 20:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
It is stated in the article, under Profile, that Janitor went to Princeton. But in His Story III it is said that the Janitor went to Harvard, and going through the episodes i cant find any evidence claiming that he assisted Princeton. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.129.189.208 ( talk) 01:35, 27 January 2007 (UTC).
Additionally, in My Lucky Night (Season 3), Janitor asserts he went to Harvard while frustrated about a riddle. However, in My Déjà vu, My Déjà vu, I believe he asserts that he went to Yale while frustrated about the same riddle as in My Lucky Night. HoCkEy PUCK 21:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
The Yale part, I believe he was talking to Troy, the sloppy joe guy. This is entirely from memory, but I think he said, "Come on, Troy, you went to Yale for god's sake." or something like that. Neospawn 16:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I think there were a few episodes in the series where the Janitor tells where he was employed prior to Sacred Heart. In one episode, I seem to remember him telling Ted that he used to be a Janitor for Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg (to which Ted replied something along the lines of "who's that?"). HoCkEy PUCK 21:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I was just watching the episode "My Long Goodbye" and realized that, when the Janitor asks to be alone with Laverne, Buckland tells him "I love you Brian." Could this be his "real" name? Cato 152.23.65.72 21:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
I have also just watched this (I'm slightly behind) and it definately sounds like Brian. I know that the captions do not say this, but I have noticed that (I always have them on, sort of a habit) that the captions are slightly different alot of the time in Scrubs. I am aware that the name has yet to be revealed 86.149.120.99 ( talk) 21:53, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
In My Occurance Ben talks about the janitor when he shows J.D. the photographs he's taken of him. Although this doesn't matter since he's real I thought it should be pointed out. EDIT: I just watched the end of that episode and it turns out that the photo thing was just a dream, or something. Cardboard boxA 14:09, 16 April 2007 (UTC) 14:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
If I remember correctly in season 1 there is a scene where JD and the Janitor are talking and behind them there is someone in a grey uniform cleaning . This could be an instance where JD is not talking to the real janitor and a sign that the Janitor may not be real at all. The episode is "My Old Man" and happens when the Janitor's "Dad" tells him to do push ups on the hospital floor Ecor200 21:35, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Listed under Dubious Claims is: "He claims to have a been taught sign-language by his father to communicate with his deaf sister. (" My Words of Wisdom")"
However, watching this episode I felt that this may not be so dubious. When asked if it was true, he said "Mostly... my father died before I was born", and I felt this was converyed with an air of sincerity that was meant, to indicate that, for once, the janitor was being truthful and releasing information about his life. -- Darksun 00:03, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
...to the first person who can garner any meaning whatsoever from the following sentence that's currently in the 'Name' section:
"According to a slip-up by Bill Lawrence on a talk show he may have accidentally referred to a "Zack Braden" being a character that the actor pulled a star out of an extra role, which is what Neil Flynn did."
I mean, huh? Words in order random meaning convey little run-on misplaced auxillary merengue hatchet. 172.132.62.167 16:54, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
My guess would be that the sentence is meant to convey the following meaning: "Bill Lawrence accidentally referred to a Zack Braden character in a talk show. According to Lawrence, this Zack Braden is played by an actor who originally appeared as an extra on the show but, despite his extra status, has evolved to be somewhat of a starring character." Only a guess though. Blur4760 09:08, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I'm buying the whole "Zack Braden" name claim that's running rampant here. Until we get a citation, or at least something better than "Bill Lawrence slipped up and said it", it's just speculation. Besides, we don't even know if it's the Janitor he's referring to. By now, all the episodes of season 6 have seen shot, just not aired. He could be referring to a character that hasn't been seen yet, for all we know. Scrubs has made supporting characters out of plenty of extras (Dr. Mickhead in an excellent example) and they could do it again with another of the many familiar but unnamed extras. I'm removing it for the time being. EdenMaster 04:35, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
I edited the Dr.Kelso article, I'm watching the episode as I speak.. Voyagerofdoom 22:47, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
O RLY, You're so cool. 194.72.54.162 ( talk) 16:39, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
this is janitor's talk page not bobbies —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.159.197.82 ( talk) 02:00, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
As stated, the Janitor says many things that must be taken with a grain of salt. However, he does seem to be messed up in the head, at least a bit. He gives some allusions to what may have caused this. In one episode, I can't remember the name, during a baby shower or something for Turk and Carla, he gave them a "baby crate" as a gift. It was actually a pet carrier kennel. When Carla said something along the line of "We don't have a dog," he says, something like "Dog? It's a baby crate." He is then seen later, not seeming to be acting for anyone, on a phone asking his mom about this discrepency between his own childhood and others'. The main reason that I don't put this on the article is my lack of specific information. However, if someone could verify it, that would make an interesting addition to either the "Dubious Claims" section, or just his general background. 24.34.133.93 23:40, 12 May 2007 (UTC) Stephen B.
The main picture of this article is in fact not from the first episode, it's from a later episode, in which The Janitor blackmails dr. Cox, because dr. Cox doesn't want to know the ending of a football game. The picture is from a scene in which the Janitor pretends to have a creature on his lap, and when dr. Cox asks what it is, he replies: "It's Leonard! Half kitten, half monkey!" (with a british accent). If someone could find out which episode this is, and write the correct episode under the picture.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.109.120.226 ( talk • contribs) 14:54, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
I think i have to agree with the first person. it does seem a bit confusing. I'll try to find a picture from the first episode. (also he's blackmailing dr. cox over the heat lakers basketball game. not a football game.-- Arsenal0328 19:09, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
The list of first season appearances should be removed. It's blatantly obvious at this point in the show that he's not a figment if J.D.'s imagination. The occurrences listed are not really relevant to the character.... If no-one responds to this within one week, I'll just do it myself. - SigmaEpsilon → Σ Ε 17:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I still fail to see the relevance of en entire list of "possible" interactions with other characters. Janitor is real, so it doesn't matter if he may or may not have interacted with other people in the past. Make a paragraph stating that these possible interactions existed. This huge list does not seem encyclopedic. I just don't see the reason to list out every quasi-interaction when it has been revealed the he does in fact exist. - SigmaEpsilon → Σ Ε 15:56, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
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i'm gonna put it in, now its more complete, and accurate-- Jac16888 17:57, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
This table is severely OR. Theorizing about "justifications" for why characters may not have been interacting the the Janitor is bot OR and irrelevant. After the seconds season, the producers decided that he does exist. There is no need to prove (or disprove) his existence. The whole point of the table seems to be "proof" that he might not have existed. However, he did exist, so we cannot "prove" otherwise. - SigmaEpsilon → Σ Ε 21:00, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
From his edits, it looks like Jac16888 is now onboard with the latest verison too. If the matter is settled, should we delete this section of the discussion page now? I'm not sure what the protocol is with this type of thing. - Shaheenjim 20:25, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
In the most recent episode, My Conventional Wisdom, he says that he is looking for a new role playing group due to being kicked out for using an actual warhammer. He then takes up rolep laying as the chief of medicine. 24.18.249.148 21:22, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
In season 5, episode 11 (" My Buddy's Booty"), Dr. Cox walks up to the Janitor who is surrounded by friends and Cox says, "Can I talk to you for a second?" Janitor then replies, "What's the matter, Sally? Vending machine out of bras again?" The group then giggles. The man standing next to him softly replies, "Nice one, Tom." This then reveals that the Janitor's true name is Tom. (If you want proof go here) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.208.250.43 ( talk • contribs) 22:59, July 30, 2007
In the podcast commentary for My Identity Crisis it is revealed that the Janitor's name will never be revealed. The podcast is located at: http://www.nbc.com/Scrubs/commentary/season7/nbc_scr_podcast_704_full_111507.mp3. It is said right at the end. Dlh1989 02:42, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
What about Josh ofr the Janitor's name?? In My Masculinity he says that. I'd definitly say this is the most likely one so far. -- Jak ( talk) 22:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Second bullet under "Production notes" The word 'irony' is clearly misused. Suggest a rephrase? — MrBucket T/ C 16:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Would you say that the Janitor is well respected among the hospital staff? I edited the article to say he was, but a couple people removed that statement. I think he is. When the hospital support staff wants dental coverage, he becomes their spokesman. And he used to be the president of the Janitor's Union. - Shaheenjim 03:01, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
It was revealed in the episode with "the coin riddle" that he attended Harvard. -Cam T| C 16:41, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
How many times does a man have to read that the Janitor has destroyed J.D.'s bike? Lots42 01:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Janitors uniform isnt mentioned. He initially had a dark grey uniform, then a "Robins Egg Blue" uniform ordered by Dr. Kelso, then a slightly darker blue uniform with no origin. Should this be put in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.177.196.157 ( talk) 04:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
We (a general we) should be careful of the speculation warning at the top of the page. Janitor is a confirmed and repeated liar, so any article about him will be default contain speculation. Lots42 ( talk) 09:11, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
are we actually sure that janitor was refering to r. lee ermey because there was one episode where another man who looks like the janitor just older (i belive it was neil flynn) and the janitor could be thinking that jd was refering to him —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stingsteve ( talk • contribs) 02:28, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
If we're going to mention the bit where the Janitor made J.D. eat meat off the floor, the 'disgusting' quote could mean the cleaning chemicals the Janitor knew was on the meat. Lots42 ( talk) 12:13, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes, the Janitor might have been declared just part of J.D.'s imagination. But do we really need a listing of his -probable- interactions with others in the original series? It doesn't make sense to me. Lots42 ( talk) 07:10, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
At a few points in the show, it is shown that the Janitor is intoxicated. I'd question weather he is ever really sober. It seems like an important aspect of his personality. Reub2000 ( talk) 00:33, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
No the Janitor was not fibbing about his thermos being filled with Gum and Tonic, since it was obviously strong enough to cause Ted to pass out. The fact that the Janitor was able to nonchalantly sip on the same concoction and not show any signs of intoxication means that the Janitor has built up a tolerance to alcohol after many years of drinking. This would be a pretty significant part of the character. The fact that he does this while working says a lot about his attitude towards his job. This isn't the only time that he has been intoxicated while working, suggesting a pattern. Reub2000 ( talk) 20:40, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
These clips show the janitor either drinking or drunk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnTJ6kS5Ugk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yDBk1iVaRM (go to 4:30) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQhRXcX6GVY I'd like to see if we could include this information in the article with less speculation. Reub2000 ( talk) 21:07, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
"In "My Manhood" he lists out a bunch of nicknames, one of which is "Josh", yet does not confirm any."
Janitor Of Sacred Heart —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.252.36.87 ( talk) 02:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Seems people are going back and forth about it. For what it's worth, the captions said "Tommy." — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 05:33, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
In the final episode J.D says goodbye 'TONY'
The janitors name is tony —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sean974 ( talk • contribs) 21:02, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
No the Janitors real name is Glenn Matthews, Tony was just a joke as a reference to a previous episode and it wasn't J.D. who said that. Bill Lawrence has said the Janitors name would be that of a character he voiced in Clone High and Glenn Matthews fits that. NobleServent2 ( talk) 21:15, 7 May 2009 (UTC)NobleServent2
ACTUALLY HE SAID TOMMY —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keffmaster ( talk • contribs) 02:44, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
For what its worth, in another episode, a background charcter called the Janitor Tom in one episode. Here's the youtube clip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MdS4Qa4v-U&feature=PlayList&p=2908856023EACF7C&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=15 Emperor001 ( talk) 17:59, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
For a while, they've been saying his name would be revealed in "My Finale", and it has also been said that Janitor's name would be the same as the janitor's in Clone High, which was Glenn. In the finale, Janitor tells J.D. his name is Glenn Matthews, and it seems to be the most likely choice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.75.141.196 ( talk) 01:49, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
The page states that he is called "Tommy" by the following character who walks by, but the real name used is "Johnny". Furthermore, I think this is to emphasize the point that nobody knows or wants to remember his name as a janitor. Mach1av3ll1 ( talk) 12:28, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Forgive me, but I'm fairly certain he said "Glenny", which would suggest everyone had been calling him that. 188.221.51.117 ( talk) 08:30, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
The guy that walks by calls him "Tony". I muted my TV for most of the episode the second time I saw it, as that causes subtitles to appear on my television. I clearly read the name "Tony". I'm certain some of you won't believe me, but whatever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.177.24.153 ( talk) 18:49, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
"I've been called many things... Jeff..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.67.158.1 ( talk) 23:11, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
He only does this in one episode, and it appears to be a rational for the Janitor to steal Kelso's scooter. It also seems that the Janitor gets angry at anyone who creates a mess in the hospital. Reub2000 ( talk) 22:05, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure of the procedure for semi-protection, but I'm thinking that it might be good idea due to the number of edits by anonymous editors being reverted. Reub2000 ( talk) 06:32, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
http://www.dailypress.com/entertainment/dp-now-scrubs.j30,0,7059608.story As you can see, http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0283568/ the janitor's name is Glenn, and the character was also voiced by Neil, we have confirmation from the creator of the series itself. There is no need for the "ambiguity" line, however a rewording could include the orderly, because it suggests an important repetition in the Janitor's inter-personal relationships. Revrant ( talk) 18:03, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
I think we should include the fact that he at one point converted to the Norse faith of Asatru :D JanderVK ( talk) 12:09, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
And I seem to have been drawn into one about the word 'Tommy'. My bad. Lots42 ( talk) 21:36, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
To second an earlier opinion: Identifying the janitor with Neil Flynn is the single explanation that makes the most sense, including his reluctance to be named/false identities, the Fugitive-connection, and his acting ability. Notably, almost everything else that could normally be used for deduction is information that simply cannot be trusted. 88.77.137.210 ( talk) 21:28, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
I agree with the possibility of his name actually being Neil Flynn, and I do believe it is. However, having just watched "My Soul On Fire Part 2", I noticed that during the janitor's wedding, Bill Lawrence (playing the "reverend") attempts to say a name beginning with 'Sh...' but you cannot hear the rest of what is said - as is intended. This could be another play on the janitor's part, having created another alter-ego for the Bahamas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.149.0 ( talk) 20:42, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
I would like to know more about this flashback. Was this someone remembering finding the Janitor's files? Or the Janitor himself telling a story or what? Because the Janitor enjoys lying. Lots42 ( talk) 13:23, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
The janitor actually predicted Osama bin laden location in episode 8 of season 6 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.244.65.19 ( talk) 18:38, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
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If the Janitor has been studied in scholarly works, then we should list those works here and note his impact on society. I've found a few, but I don't have full access to them. Could anyone with a JSTOR account or access to a university library give these a click and confirm that the Janitor is a substantive part of the study and not merely mentioned?
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I brought this up on the Scrubs talk page - Someone had included the trivia that Janitor's real name will be revealed by Bill Lawrence after the show ends. I can't find any sort of information backing this up (interviews, DVD commentary, etc), so I've removed it. Feel free to revert it if anyone can find a source. -- Zybergoat 10:28, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
I believe his name may be "Tom" - in 511, "My Buddy's Booty", at about 18:51, the man in the blue jacket standing towards the camera sounds like he says "Nice one Tom" to the Janitor when he makes a fool of Dr. Cox. Is he actually saying "Nice one Tom" or "Nice return"? -- Fragsta 22:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
I just read something at MovieMistakes.com - because Neil Flynn actually played the security guard in The Fugitive, and so did the character The Janitor, then Neil Flynn is playing the part of himself - otherwise, Scrubs is set in a different universe to ours. Otherwise the Scrubs team would have a bit of a continuity error on their hands, eh? And we all know they don't like that. -- Fragsta 23:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
In the episode with Dick Van Dyke, when he passes janitor in the hallway, he says "hey, _____" or something to that effect. Would someone look into that? Thnx 72.65.129.40 19:27, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
There was an episode where the janitor pretended to be a doctor called Dr. Ján Itor. Maybe that is his real name (in the series) User:Shadow Kratos 19:38 18 April 2007 (UTC)
K, two things. First of all, I personally think this should be titled "The Janitor", not just "Janitor", but that might be just me. Secondly, this article quotes what the Janitor says to JD (such as his wife only having three fingers) as though it were a true fact of his life; I always take what he says to JD to be mocking, as part of his "bullying role". A lot of what he says may or may not be true, there's really no proof of this.-- The Wizard of Magicland 11:41, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I agree. It might make more sense to re-label that section as "Alleged Family History" -- 69.183.42.41 17:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Mmm.. I don't know, I've heard him be referred to The Janitor as much as just Janitor, if not more. With the "Alleged Family History", that would be hard because most of the other points aren't really to do with his family. Crankytoad 20:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
His name is just Janitor. The Clydelishes Clyde 23:50, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
"He speaks Spanish and Korean as well as English, being also able to pull off, convincingly, at least 3 different accents of English ("My Friend the Doctor")." It seems that the convincingly part is a POV and my POV is that they are not convincing at all!!! Standardelephant 19:03, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
actually, that they are not convincing is YOUr POV, which we are supposed to avoid? the fact of the matter is the folks at the hospital were indeed convinced by his accent, so who's to say otherwise?
i must declare that i was the one who wrote this so i may be biased, would welcome other comments :) ahwang 06:00, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm merely stating that whether the accents were convincing or not is a point of view, I was stating mine is that they weren't convincing which of course I would not put in an article as it is MY point of view which as you point out shouldn't be in an article. I believe as an Englishman (with quite a strong regional accent) I am quite qualified to know if an English accent sounds right or some mish mash of various stereotypical english accents, having noticed you are from Singapore I must say I would never dream of stating that someone trying to speak Malay in a Singaporean accent was convincing or unconvincing especially when told by a Singaporean that it wasn't. I do see your point about the people at the hospital believing he was English maybe the article could be changed along the lines of him being able to successfully fool the staff into believing he was English Standardelephant 17:19, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I kinda thought it meant the accents convinced the show characters he was trying to convince. -- 69.183.42.41 17:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I would be concerned with POV if this occurred in real life. But since this is fictional, we are only concerned with the show's POV. That's not to say that a British character on the show would find it unconvincing. -- Macrowiz 17:59, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
This could be solved quite easily if you just change it say something like 'everyone in the hospital is fooled by his dialects, with the exception of JD' or similar. That way its not POV as people in the hospital are truly convinced by his (rather shoddy) impressions. Crankytoad 19:25, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
"although his bullying tendencies only seem to be in jest and as a break in his cleaning routine rather than actually being mean-spirited, as he has never actually physically harmed or criminally harassed anyone." This is simply not true. I am sure the kidnapping and placing inside the water tower of J.D. in S05E19 "His Story III" was criminal and physically harmful. Removed for now. 58.6.42.80 23:41, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm just curious about an explanation of how beating someone with a sockfull of nickels could be considered being OCD? Certainly doesn't seem like it could be an indication of a "correct diagnosis." In fact I'm pretty sure that was the intended joke. I think it should be changed.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.134.222.196 ( talk) 22:20, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I Think the quote was something to effect of "My grandfather had OCD too, every morning when he woke up he would beat us with a sock full of nickels." Though I'm not sure of the exact quote, perhaps that note should be added. 76.18.84.254 05:07, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, the whole quote is:
So the Janitor does actually believe it was an OCD, does that count though? Crankytoad 19:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, if he did it every morning, as he says, it could be considered OCD, as he feels the need to do it every morning. Though, that is just how I see it. Neospawn 16:41, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I think the joke is in the switcheroo from a buildup suggesting OCD (a seemingly pointless ritual) to the revelation that the ritual has a purpose of mere mundane brutality. — Tamfang 00:24, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Even though he doesn't mean to, JD does occasionally do horrible things to the Janitor, such as ruin his shirt, pull the ladder out from him, track mud on his floors, etc.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.76.112.227 ( talk) 08:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
In any case, I'm not sure about the first one but JD didn't no The Janitor was using the ladder, nor did he mean to track mud on the floors, he specifically tried to avoid The Janitor at that point... Crankytoad 20:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
It is stated in the article, under Profile, that Janitor went to Princeton. But in His Story III it is said that the Janitor went to Harvard, and going through the episodes i cant find any evidence claiming that he assisted Princeton. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.129.189.208 ( talk) 01:35, 27 January 2007 (UTC).
Additionally, in My Lucky Night (Season 3), Janitor asserts he went to Harvard while frustrated about a riddle. However, in My Déjà vu, My Déjà vu, I believe he asserts that he went to Yale while frustrated about the same riddle as in My Lucky Night. HoCkEy PUCK 21:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
The Yale part, I believe he was talking to Troy, the sloppy joe guy. This is entirely from memory, but I think he said, "Come on, Troy, you went to Yale for god's sake." or something like that. Neospawn 16:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
I think there were a few episodes in the series where the Janitor tells where he was employed prior to Sacred Heart. In one episode, I seem to remember him telling Ted that he used to be a Janitor for Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg (to which Ted replied something along the lines of "who's that?"). HoCkEy PUCK 21:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I was just watching the episode "My Long Goodbye" and realized that, when the Janitor asks to be alone with Laverne, Buckland tells him "I love you Brian." Could this be his "real" name? Cato 152.23.65.72 21:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
I have also just watched this (I'm slightly behind) and it definately sounds like Brian. I know that the captions do not say this, but I have noticed that (I always have them on, sort of a habit) that the captions are slightly different alot of the time in Scrubs. I am aware that the name has yet to be revealed 86.149.120.99 ( talk) 21:53, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
In My Occurance Ben talks about the janitor when he shows J.D. the photographs he's taken of him. Although this doesn't matter since he's real I thought it should be pointed out. EDIT: I just watched the end of that episode and it turns out that the photo thing was just a dream, or something. Cardboard boxA 14:09, 16 April 2007 (UTC) 14:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
If I remember correctly in season 1 there is a scene where JD and the Janitor are talking and behind them there is someone in a grey uniform cleaning . This could be an instance where JD is not talking to the real janitor and a sign that the Janitor may not be real at all. The episode is "My Old Man" and happens when the Janitor's "Dad" tells him to do push ups on the hospital floor Ecor200 21:35, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Listed under Dubious Claims is: "He claims to have a been taught sign-language by his father to communicate with his deaf sister. (" My Words of Wisdom")"
However, watching this episode I felt that this may not be so dubious. When asked if it was true, he said "Mostly... my father died before I was born", and I felt this was converyed with an air of sincerity that was meant, to indicate that, for once, the janitor was being truthful and releasing information about his life. -- Darksun 00:03, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
...to the first person who can garner any meaning whatsoever from the following sentence that's currently in the 'Name' section:
"According to a slip-up by Bill Lawrence on a talk show he may have accidentally referred to a "Zack Braden" being a character that the actor pulled a star out of an extra role, which is what Neil Flynn did."
I mean, huh? Words in order random meaning convey little run-on misplaced auxillary merengue hatchet. 172.132.62.167 16:54, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
My guess would be that the sentence is meant to convey the following meaning: "Bill Lawrence accidentally referred to a Zack Braden character in a talk show. According to Lawrence, this Zack Braden is played by an actor who originally appeared as an extra on the show but, despite his extra status, has evolved to be somewhat of a starring character." Only a guess though. Blur4760 09:08, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I'm buying the whole "Zack Braden" name claim that's running rampant here. Until we get a citation, or at least something better than "Bill Lawrence slipped up and said it", it's just speculation. Besides, we don't even know if it's the Janitor he's referring to. By now, all the episodes of season 6 have seen shot, just not aired. He could be referring to a character that hasn't been seen yet, for all we know. Scrubs has made supporting characters out of plenty of extras (Dr. Mickhead in an excellent example) and they could do it again with another of the many familiar but unnamed extras. I'm removing it for the time being. EdenMaster 04:35, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
I edited the Dr.Kelso article, I'm watching the episode as I speak.. Voyagerofdoom 22:47, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
O RLY, You're so cool. 194.72.54.162 ( talk) 16:39, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
this is janitor's talk page not bobbies —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.159.197.82 ( talk) 02:00, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
As stated, the Janitor says many things that must be taken with a grain of salt. However, he does seem to be messed up in the head, at least a bit. He gives some allusions to what may have caused this. In one episode, I can't remember the name, during a baby shower or something for Turk and Carla, he gave them a "baby crate" as a gift. It was actually a pet carrier kennel. When Carla said something along the line of "We don't have a dog," he says, something like "Dog? It's a baby crate." He is then seen later, not seeming to be acting for anyone, on a phone asking his mom about this discrepency between his own childhood and others'. The main reason that I don't put this on the article is my lack of specific information. However, if someone could verify it, that would make an interesting addition to either the "Dubious Claims" section, or just his general background. 24.34.133.93 23:40, 12 May 2007 (UTC) Stephen B.
The main picture of this article is in fact not from the first episode, it's from a later episode, in which The Janitor blackmails dr. Cox, because dr. Cox doesn't want to know the ending of a football game. The picture is from a scene in which the Janitor pretends to have a creature on his lap, and when dr. Cox asks what it is, he replies: "It's Leonard! Half kitten, half monkey!" (with a british accent). If someone could find out which episode this is, and write the correct episode under the picture.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.109.120.226 ( talk • contribs) 14:54, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
I think i have to agree with the first person. it does seem a bit confusing. I'll try to find a picture from the first episode. (also he's blackmailing dr. cox over the heat lakers basketball game. not a football game.-- Arsenal0328 19:09, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
The list of first season appearances should be removed. It's blatantly obvious at this point in the show that he's not a figment if J.D.'s imagination. The occurrences listed are not really relevant to the character.... If no-one responds to this within one week, I'll just do it myself. - SigmaEpsilon → Σ Ε 17:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
I still fail to see the relevance of en entire list of "possible" interactions with other characters. Janitor is real, so it doesn't matter if he may or may not have interacted with other people in the past. Make a paragraph stating that these possible interactions existed. This huge list does not seem encyclopedic. I just don't see the reason to list out every quasi-interaction when it has been revealed the he does in fact exist. - SigmaEpsilon → Σ Ε 15:56, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
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i'm gonna put it in, now its more complete, and accurate-- Jac16888 17:57, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
This table is severely OR. Theorizing about "justifications" for why characters may not have been interacting the the Janitor is bot OR and irrelevant. After the seconds season, the producers decided that he does exist. There is no need to prove (or disprove) his existence. The whole point of the table seems to be "proof" that he might not have existed. However, he did exist, so we cannot "prove" otherwise. - SigmaEpsilon → Σ Ε 21:00, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
From his edits, it looks like Jac16888 is now onboard with the latest verison too. If the matter is settled, should we delete this section of the discussion page now? I'm not sure what the protocol is with this type of thing. - Shaheenjim 20:25, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
In the most recent episode, My Conventional Wisdom, he says that he is looking for a new role playing group due to being kicked out for using an actual warhammer. He then takes up rolep laying as the chief of medicine. 24.18.249.148 21:22, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
In season 5, episode 11 (" My Buddy's Booty"), Dr. Cox walks up to the Janitor who is surrounded by friends and Cox says, "Can I talk to you for a second?" Janitor then replies, "What's the matter, Sally? Vending machine out of bras again?" The group then giggles. The man standing next to him softly replies, "Nice one, Tom." This then reveals that the Janitor's true name is Tom. (If you want proof go here) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.208.250.43 ( talk • contribs) 22:59, July 30, 2007
In the podcast commentary for My Identity Crisis it is revealed that the Janitor's name will never be revealed. The podcast is located at: http://www.nbc.com/Scrubs/commentary/season7/nbc_scr_podcast_704_full_111507.mp3. It is said right at the end. Dlh1989 02:42, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
What about Josh ofr the Janitor's name?? In My Masculinity he says that. I'd definitly say this is the most likely one so far. -- Jak ( talk) 22:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Second bullet under "Production notes" The word 'irony' is clearly misused. Suggest a rephrase? — MrBucket T/ C 16:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Would you say that the Janitor is well respected among the hospital staff? I edited the article to say he was, but a couple people removed that statement. I think he is. When the hospital support staff wants dental coverage, he becomes their spokesman. And he used to be the president of the Janitor's Union. - Shaheenjim 03:01, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
It was revealed in the episode with "the coin riddle" that he attended Harvard. -Cam T| C 16:41, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
How many times does a man have to read that the Janitor has destroyed J.D.'s bike? Lots42 01:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Janitors uniform isnt mentioned. He initially had a dark grey uniform, then a "Robins Egg Blue" uniform ordered by Dr. Kelso, then a slightly darker blue uniform with no origin. Should this be put in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.177.196.157 ( talk) 04:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
We (a general we) should be careful of the speculation warning at the top of the page. Janitor is a confirmed and repeated liar, so any article about him will be default contain speculation. Lots42 ( talk) 09:11, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
are we actually sure that janitor was refering to r. lee ermey because there was one episode where another man who looks like the janitor just older (i belive it was neil flynn) and the janitor could be thinking that jd was refering to him —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stingsteve ( talk • contribs) 02:28, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
If we're going to mention the bit where the Janitor made J.D. eat meat off the floor, the 'disgusting' quote could mean the cleaning chemicals the Janitor knew was on the meat. Lots42 ( talk) 12:13, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes, the Janitor might have been declared just part of J.D.'s imagination. But do we really need a listing of his -probable- interactions with others in the original series? It doesn't make sense to me. Lots42 ( talk) 07:10, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
At a few points in the show, it is shown that the Janitor is intoxicated. I'd question weather he is ever really sober. It seems like an important aspect of his personality. Reub2000 ( talk) 00:33, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
No the Janitor was not fibbing about his thermos being filled with Gum and Tonic, since it was obviously strong enough to cause Ted to pass out. The fact that the Janitor was able to nonchalantly sip on the same concoction and not show any signs of intoxication means that the Janitor has built up a tolerance to alcohol after many years of drinking. This would be a pretty significant part of the character. The fact that he does this while working says a lot about his attitude towards his job. This isn't the only time that he has been intoxicated while working, suggesting a pattern. Reub2000 ( talk) 20:40, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
These clips show the janitor either drinking or drunk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnTJ6kS5Ugk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yDBk1iVaRM (go to 4:30) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQhRXcX6GVY I'd like to see if we could include this information in the article with less speculation. Reub2000 ( talk) 21:07, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
"In "My Manhood" he lists out a bunch of nicknames, one of which is "Josh", yet does not confirm any."
Janitor Of Sacred Heart —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.252.36.87 ( talk) 02:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Seems people are going back and forth about it. For what it's worth, the captions said "Tommy." — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 05:33, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
In the final episode J.D says goodbye 'TONY'
The janitors name is tony —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sean974 ( talk • contribs) 21:02, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
No the Janitors real name is Glenn Matthews, Tony was just a joke as a reference to a previous episode and it wasn't J.D. who said that. Bill Lawrence has said the Janitors name would be that of a character he voiced in Clone High and Glenn Matthews fits that. NobleServent2 ( talk) 21:15, 7 May 2009 (UTC)NobleServent2
ACTUALLY HE SAID TOMMY —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keffmaster ( talk • contribs) 02:44, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
For what its worth, in another episode, a background charcter called the Janitor Tom in one episode. Here's the youtube clip. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MdS4Qa4v-U&feature=PlayList&p=2908856023EACF7C&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=15 Emperor001 ( talk) 17:59, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
For a while, they've been saying his name would be revealed in "My Finale", and it has also been said that Janitor's name would be the same as the janitor's in Clone High, which was Glenn. In the finale, Janitor tells J.D. his name is Glenn Matthews, and it seems to be the most likely choice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.75.141.196 ( talk) 01:49, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
The page states that he is called "Tommy" by the following character who walks by, but the real name used is "Johnny". Furthermore, I think this is to emphasize the point that nobody knows or wants to remember his name as a janitor. Mach1av3ll1 ( talk) 12:28, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Forgive me, but I'm fairly certain he said "Glenny", which would suggest everyone had been calling him that. 188.221.51.117 ( talk) 08:30, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
The guy that walks by calls him "Tony". I muted my TV for most of the episode the second time I saw it, as that causes subtitles to appear on my television. I clearly read the name "Tony". I'm certain some of you won't believe me, but whatever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.177.24.153 ( talk) 18:49, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
"I've been called many things... Jeff..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.67.158.1 ( talk) 23:11, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
He only does this in one episode, and it appears to be a rational for the Janitor to steal Kelso's scooter. It also seems that the Janitor gets angry at anyone who creates a mess in the hospital. Reub2000 ( talk) 22:05, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure of the procedure for semi-protection, but I'm thinking that it might be good idea due to the number of edits by anonymous editors being reverted. Reub2000 ( talk) 06:32, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
http://www.dailypress.com/entertainment/dp-now-scrubs.j30,0,7059608.story As you can see, http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0283568/ the janitor's name is Glenn, and the character was also voiced by Neil, we have confirmation from the creator of the series itself. There is no need for the "ambiguity" line, however a rewording could include the orderly, because it suggests an important repetition in the Janitor's inter-personal relationships. Revrant ( talk) 18:03, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
I think we should include the fact that he at one point converted to the Norse faith of Asatru :D JanderVK ( talk) 12:09, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
And I seem to have been drawn into one about the word 'Tommy'. My bad. Lots42 ( talk) 21:36, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
To second an earlier opinion: Identifying the janitor with Neil Flynn is the single explanation that makes the most sense, including his reluctance to be named/false identities, the Fugitive-connection, and his acting ability. Notably, almost everything else that could normally be used for deduction is information that simply cannot be trusted. 88.77.137.210 ( talk) 21:28, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
I agree with the possibility of his name actually being Neil Flynn, and I do believe it is. However, having just watched "My Soul On Fire Part 2", I noticed that during the janitor's wedding, Bill Lawrence (playing the "reverend") attempts to say a name beginning with 'Sh...' but you cannot hear the rest of what is said - as is intended. This could be another play on the janitor's part, having created another alter-ego for the Bahamas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.149.0 ( talk) 20:42, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
I would like to know more about this flashback. Was this someone remembering finding the Janitor's files? Or the Janitor himself telling a story or what? Because the Janitor enjoys lying. Lots42 ( talk) 13:23, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
The janitor actually predicted Osama bin laden location in episode 8 of season 6 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.244.65.19 ( talk) 18:38, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
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If the Janitor has been studied in scholarly works, then we should list those works here and note his impact on society. I've found a few, but I don't have full access to them. Could anyone with a JSTOR account or access to a university library give these a click and confirm that the Janitor is a substantive part of the study and not merely mentioned?