This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Edward A. Ross was a racist and an economic collectivist. He was not a "liberal" man.
In the section on Jane Stanford's pressure to remove Edward A. Ross from Stanford university, the article totally ignored one of the major grounds for her complaints. Namely the exterme racism of Ross and his speeches around Califoria trying to stir up violent hatred of Chinese people and other ethnic groups he considered inferior. Not only did Ross use highly offensive language in his public speeches (full of ethnic slurs), but he advocated eugenics policies specifically directed against ethnic groups.
Of course it is perfectly possible to argue that Ross should have been kept on at Stanford (in spite of his extreme racism and his public speeches directed at creating racial hatred and inciting action against people of ethnic groups he did like), but the article leaves out the racism of Ross - and that is not acceptable.
Also to describe an economic collectivist like Edward A. Ross as a "liberal" does violence (extreme violence) to what the word "liberal" meant in the period - surely the word "liberal" can not have changed so much that it now means the exact opposite of what it originally meant (i.e. instead of meaning "pro liberty" for Ross to be liberal the word would have now to be mean "anti liberty").
If violent racism and economic collectivism are "liberal" - then the German dictator of 1933 to 1945 (Adolf Hitler), must also be described as a "liberal" and that just does not make sense. Even in the 1920s and 1930's(decades after the events this section of the article descibes)the Italian Fascist dicator Benito Mussolini defined the economic collectivism of Fascism as the OPPOSITE of liberalism (not as liberalism by another name). So I repeat to call a man like Edward A. Ross a "liberal" is absurd. 91.107.75.110 ( talk) 22:01, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
He was a progressive. That covers his race beliefs - racism is not reactionary, it is yesterday’s progressivism, based on the latest science (now exploded). Not all progressives thought the same, however. Note that eugenics is a program for improving humanity - it all depends on what you think is an improvement. Many were opposed to it as just too intrusive, whatever the criteria - see the 1930’s roadshow movie “ Tomorrow’s Children”. Some discussion of all this could be good background for that section of the article. 2601:647:5800:7D80:119D:2328:DB58:5450 ( talk) 07:48, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 3 external links on Jane Stanford. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
An editor has reviewed this edit and fixed any errors that were found.
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 01:37, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
5 December 2019: Assessed for WP:WikiProject Stanford University: B class (formerly C), Top importance (formerly high)
Assessed as top importance because:
The linked article about Lathrop, California has a citation for the fact that the town was named after Jane and her brother Charles (a Google Books scan of a newspaper article about the event). I'm not in a place where I can comfortably add a proper reference, but I hope somebody will. 77.234.115.28 ( talk) 07:09, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Edward A. Ross was a racist and an economic collectivist. He was not a "liberal" man.
In the section on Jane Stanford's pressure to remove Edward A. Ross from Stanford university, the article totally ignored one of the major grounds for her complaints. Namely the exterme racism of Ross and his speeches around Califoria trying to stir up violent hatred of Chinese people and other ethnic groups he considered inferior. Not only did Ross use highly offensive language in his public speeches (full of ethnic slurs), but he advocated eugenics policies specifically directed against ethnic groups.
Of course it is perfectly possible to argue that Ross should have been kept on at Stanford (in spite of his extreme racism and his public speeches directed at creating racial hatred and inciting action against people of ethnic groups he did like), but the article leaves out the racism of Ross - and that is not acceptable.
Also to describe an economic collectivist like Edward A. Ross as a "liberal" does violence (extreme violence) to what the word "liberal" meant in the period - surely the word "liberal" can not have changed so much that it now means the exact opposite of what it originally meant (i.e. instead of meaning "pro liberty" for Ross to be liberal the word would have now to be mean "anti liberty").
If violent racism and economic collectivism are "liberal" - then the German dictator of 1933 to 1945 (Adolf Hitler), must also be described as a "liberal" and that just does not make sense. Even in the 1920s and 1930's(decades after the events this section of the article descibes)the Italian Fascist dicator Benito Mussolini defined the economic collectivism of Fascism as the OPPOSITE of liberalism (not as liberalism by another name). So I repeat to call a man like Edward A. Ross a "liberal" is absurd. 91.107.75.110 ( talk) 22:01, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
He was a progressive. That covers his race beliefs - racism is not reactionary, it is yesterday’s progressivism, based on the latest science (now exploded). Not all progressives thought the same, however. Note that eugenics is a program for improving humanity - it all depends on what you think is an improvement. Many were opposed to it as just too intrusive, whatever the criteria - see the 1930’s roadshow movie “ Tomorrow’s Children”. Some discussion of all this could be good background for that section of the article. 2601:647:5800:7D80:119D:2328:DB58:5450 ( talk) 07:48, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 3 external links on Jane Stanford. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
An editor has reviewed this edit and fixed any errors that were found.
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 01:37, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
5 December 2019: Assessed for WP:WikiProject Stanford University: B class (formerly C), Top importance (formerly high)
Assessed as top importance because:
The linked article about Lathrop, California has a citation for the fact that the town was named after Jane and her brother Charles (a Google Books scan of a newspaper article about the event). I'm not in a place where I can comfortably add a proper reference, but I hope somebody will. 77.234.115.28 ( talk) 07:09, 26 June 2023 (UTC)