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You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, APR t 05:10, 9 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by NoVomit ( talk • contribs)
Ruhrfisch comments: Very briefly, here are some suggestions for improvement. I also reviewed Seth Material, so many of the criticisms there also apply here.
Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). Yours, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 02:05, 21 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by NoVomit ( talk • contribs)
A picture of Roberts would make this article more attractive. Keep in mind that any picture uploaded needs to have complete copyright information available. Since she is dead, under Fair Use we should be able to get a low resolution image of her to upload. It would have to satisfy all of the criteria under WP:NFC however and provide a "free use rationale" . . . the J. B. Priestley and Silk Smitha are good examples. A book cover would not do unless the book in question was being discussed, but a scan of a photo from one of the books with complete copyright information might do OK. NoVomit ( talk) 12:07, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Robert Butts was at least as responsible for the Seth material as Jane Roberts (it would not have happened without both of them), and he was an artist and publisher in his own right. I was hoping someone would help add to the stub I started http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Fabian_Butts
Laurel 18:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurel ( talk • contribs)
Have edited this for encyclopedic tone and style.-- Parkwells ( talk) 18:55, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
there were a few places in this article where it's impossible to know what is being quoted and what isn't.
in the "Early Life..." section, the 4th paragraph--much of this paragraph reads as opinion, or autobiographical, or...some sort of medical diagnosis. yet there is only a long string of sources placed at the end of the paragraph. is this an actual WP practice?? i understand that a paragraph where every sentence is sourced is cumbersome, but the 'method' used here leaves the reader wondering if just the last sentence is extremely well-documented, while the rest of the paragraph emerged from some WP writer's backside.
same section, the 5th paragraph (beginning with "Jane had been going with a fellow...")--a quotation is started here:
first of all, this sentence makes NO sense. then, the "quote" runs on....i guess until the end of the paragraph. there was no way to tell really. although i did change the quotation marks used to match the first initial quote marks. good luck, whoever wants to tackle this one.
in the "Seth Material" section--the very long quotation would probably look better/read better if put into block quote format, rather than being italicized. Colbey84 ( talk) 10:22, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
first comment/question: this link—"List of Seth Sessions by Mary Dillman," and this link—"Index of Eleven Seth Books by Sue R. Williams," both go to the same webpage--the front page of a website put up by Mary Dillman that is Seth related. it doesn't link directly to any sort of list.
next comment/question: the last 4 links are all for websites/pages for a "Lynda Dahl." this surprised me, as i didn't remember seeing that name anywhere in the article. a search led me to ref/source #15, which is: "ESP Power, by Jane Roberts (2000) (introductory essay by Lynda Dahl). ISBN 0-88391-016-0"
the relatively recent publication date caught my eye. i did a search for the book and found a "Fells' Official Know-it-all Guide to ESP Power," first published in 1974, then in 1997, and then in 2000. "How to Develop Your ESP Powers" was published in 1966 by Pocket Books. (which means this item is incorrect in the "Complete writings" list, which lists the publisher as "Federick Fell." i found it on AbeBooks, and the cover clearly shows "Pocket Books." and, at any rate, i'm fairly certain it should at least be "Frederick.")
at any rate, i could not find a single site that had this 2000 reprinted book available (store or library) that listed an introduction, let alone an introduction by a Lynda Dahl. nor was an introduction mentioned on those pages that had the original 1966 book available. which leads me to ask if this can be verified? if not, i question the inclusion of it in the "References" item.
and, whether the introduction is verified or not, i question having 4 external links for a different person on an author's WP article. it starts to come across as self-promotion, so i bring it here for discussion. Note: the final link—"Seth/Jane Roberts Books and Info"—is to a Facebook page maintained by Linda Dahl. Colbey84 ( talk) 10:56, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
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From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/Automated/December_2008#Jane_Roberts
The following suggestions were generated by a semi-automatic javascript program, and might not be applicable for the article in question.
You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, APR t 05:10, 9 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by NoVomit ( talk • contribs)
Ruhrfisch comments: Very briefly, here are some suggestions for improvement. I also reviewed Seth Material, so many of the criticisms there also apply here.
Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). Yours, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 02:05, 21 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by NoVomit ( talk • contribs)
A picture of Roberts would make this article more attractive. Keep in mind that any picture uploaded needs to have complete copyright information available. Since she is dead, under Fair Use we should be able to get a low resolution image of her to upload. It would have to satisfy all of the criteria under WP:NFC however and provide a "free use rationale" . . . the J. B. Priestley and Silk Smitha are good examples. A book cover would not do unless the book in question was being discussed, but a scan of a photo from one of the books with complete copyright information might do OK. NoVomit ( talk) 12:07, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Robert Butts was at least as responsible for the Seth material as Jane Roberts (it would not have happened without both of them), and he was an artist and publisher in his own right. I was hoping someone would help add to the stub I started http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Fabian_Butts
Laurel 18:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurel ( talk • contribs)
Have edited this for encyclopedic tone and style.-- Parkwells ( talk) 18:55, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
there were a few places in this article where it's impossible to know what is being quoted and what isn't.
in the "Early Life..." section, the 4th paragraph--much of this paragraph reads as opinion, or autobiographical, or...some sort of medical diagnosis. yet there is only a long string of sources placed at the end of the paragraph. is this an actual WP practice?? i understand that a paragraph where every sentence is sourced is cumbersome, but the 'method' used here leaves the reader wondering if just the last sentence is extremely well-documented, while the rest of the paragraph emerged from some WP writer's backside.
same section, the 5th paragraph (beginning with "Jane had been going with a fellow...")--a quotation is started here:
first of all, this sentence makes NO sense. then, the "quote" runs on....i guess until the end of the paragraph. there was no way to tell really. although i did change the quotation marks used to match the first initial quote marks. good luck, whoever wants to tackle this one.
in the "Seth Material" section--the very long quotation would probably look better/read better if put into block quote format, rather than being italicized. Colbey84 ( talk) 10:22, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
first comment/question: this link—"List of Seth Sessions by Mary Dillman," and this link—"Index of Eleven Seth Books by Sue R. Williams," both go to the same webpage--the front page of a website put up by Mary Dillman that is Seth related. it doesn't link directly to any sort of list.
next comment/question: the last 4 links are all for websites/pages for a "Lynda Dahl." this surprised me, as i didn't remember seeing that name anywhere in the article. a search led me to ref/source #15, which is: "ESP Power, by Jane Roberts (2000) (introductory essay by Lynda Dahl). ISBN 0-88391-016-0"
the relatively recent publication date caught my eye. i did a search for the book and found a "Fells' Official Know-it-all Guide to ESP Power," first published in 1974, then in 1997, and then in 2000. "How to Develop Your ESP Powers" was published in 1966 by Pocket Books. (which means this item is incorrect in the "Complete writings" list, which lists the publisher as "Federick Fell." i found it on AbeBooks, and the cover clearly shows "Pocket Books." and, at any rate, i'm fairly certain it should at least be "Frederick.")
at any rate, i could not find a single site that had this 2000 reprinted book available (store or library) that listed an introduction, let alone an introduction by a Lynda Dahl. nor was an introduction mentioned on those pages that had the original 1966 book available. which leads me to ask if this can be verified? if not, i question the inclusion of it in the "References" item.
and, whether the introduction is verified or not, i question having 4 external links for a different person on an author's WP article. it starts to come across as self-promotion, so i bring it here for discussion. Note: the final link—"Seth/Jane Roberts Books and Info"—is to a Facebook page maintained by Linda Dahl. Colbey84 ( talk) 10:56, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
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