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This entry lacks balance. It appears to be an ad hominin attack on Wong. Whatever the merits of her analysis of the shooting at Montreal's Dawson College, her comments in respect of the race based nature of Quebec society is very real. It is a topic, similar to Muslim extremism, that people are afraid to comment upon because of a hostile, and perhaps violent, reaction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.228.248.186 ( talk • contribs)
On Wikipedia we would call comments such as Jan Wong made "original research" and delete them, see Wikipedia:No original research. Fred Bauder 21:35, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
It is more convenient for most of our readers if you link to references in English. Fred Bauder 12:29, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
The user who added the NPOV template did not explain the reasons here and the arguments of User:64.228.248.186 have here been refuted. Do we remove the NPOV template? What is NPOV in the article? -- Liberlogos 06:29, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I keep hearing from my chinese professor that because of her critical writing on China, she is now banned from entry there. Is this a fact? I find it interesting, and useful in the whole issue of China's censorship and lack of freedom of the press. 74.99.17.52 13:29, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
POV (and possibly libelous) material removed. Spoonkymonkey ( talk) 23:47, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
"Not being one to stick to her ideals" strikes me as POV. Instead of "Wong became tired of Party ideology and returned to Canada from Beijing," how about: "After living a few more years in China, Wong left earlier ideals behind and returned to Canada."? ch ( talk) 19:04, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
There was no mention of Wong's book A Comrade Lost and Found: A Beijing Memoir listed with her published works. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.178.16.121 ( talk) 15:41, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
I came to this article having read Wong’s three books on China. Beyond the stitching together of a few biographical facts, this entry is pretty much the worst entry I have ever read on Wikipedia for somebody with real accomplishments. I don’t question the inclusion of her infamous article on the Dawson murders or any other controversial material, but why not mention the hundreds of articles she has written on China? How about her accomplishments?
There is absolutely no respect or even acknowledgement that much (if not most) of her writing career has been focused on China. Wong also is known as an author with extensive personal and professional expertise and understanding of China from the Cultural Revolution to the present day. She is an expert on the Tiananmen Square massacre having personally witnessed the whole bloodbath and writing about it for many years after. No mention is made that her books are widely read, and that her expertise and opinions on China are much sought after. She is cited several times on Wikipedia's excellent article on the the Tiananmen massacre.
Here are a few examples found with a simple Google search:
http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/oldcontent/s2464921.htm?site=widebay http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tankman/interviews/wong.html http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/vp_mallick/20071112.html
From her publisher: http://www.randomhouse.ca/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780385663595
She is the recipient of a (US) George Polk Award, the New England Women’s Press Association Newswoman of the Year Award, the (Canadian) National Newspaper Award and a Lowell Thomas Travel Journalism Silver Medal, among other honours for her reporting. Wong has also written for The New York Times, The Gazette in Montreal, The Boston Globe and The Wall Street Journal.
Jan Wong is not some gossip column bimbo and at least deserves a balanced entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.33.69.212 ( talk) 03:19, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
"However, in pushing the envelope on denunciation, Wong had earned a reputation for gratuitous and opportunistic nastiness in pursuit of copy.[7]" How does a single opinion piece constitute a reputation? Kinsella never says she has a reputation, he tries to give her one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.192.16.187 ( talk) 18:16, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
If it is appropriate to mention this, why not her husband and sons, if not necessarily by name and present circumstances? She does mention them in past columns, and collection of them, after all, so it hardly seems an intrusion. Masalai ( talk) 06:15, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
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This entry lacks balance. It appears to be an ad hominin attack on Wong. Whatever the merits of her analysis of the shooting at Montreal's Dawson College, her comments in respect of the race based nature of Quebec society is very real. It is a topic, similar to Muslim extremism, that people are afraid to comment upon because of a hostile, and perhaps violent, reaction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.228.248.186 ( talk • contribs)
On Wikipedia we would call comments such as Jan Wong made "original research" and delete them, see Wikipedia:No original research. Fred Bauder 21:35, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
It is more convenient for most of our readers if you link to references in English. Fred Bauder 12:29, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
The user who added the NPOV template did not explain the reasons here and the arguments of User:64.228.248.186 have here been refuted. Do we remove the NPOV template? What is NPOV in the article? -- Liberlogos 06:29, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
I keep hearing from my chinese professor that because of her critical writing on China, she is now banned from entry there. Is this a fact? I find it interesting, and useful in the whole issue of China's censorship and lack of freedom of the press. 74.99.17.52 13:29, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
POV (and possibly libelous) material removed. Spoonkymonkey ( talk) 23:47, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
"Not being one to stick to her ideals" strikes me as POV. Instead of "Wong became tired of Party ideology and returned to Canada from Beijing," how about: "After living a few more years in China, Wong left earlier ideals behind and returned to Canada."? ch ( talk) 19:04, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
There was no mention of Wong's book A Comrade Lost and Found: A Beijing Memoir listed with her published works. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.178.16.121 ( talk) 15:41, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
I came to this article having read Wong’s three books on China. Beyond the stitching together of a few biographical facts, this entry is pretty much the worst entry I have ever read on Wikipedia for somebody with real accomplishments. I don’t question the inclusion of her infamous article on the Dawson murders or any other controversial material, but why not mention the hundreds of articles she has written on China? How about her accomplishments?
There is absolutely no respect or even acknowledgement that much (if not most) of her writing career has been focused on China. Wong also is known as an author with extensive personal and professional expertise and understanding of China from the Cultural Revolution to the present day. She is an expert on the Tiananmen Square massacre having personally witnessed the whole bloodbath and writing about it for many years after. No mention is made that her books are widely read, and that her expertise and opinions on China are much sought after. She is cited several times on Wikipedia's excellent article on the the Tiananmen massacre.
Here are a few examples found with a simple Google search:
http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/oldcontent/s2464921.htm?site=widebay http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tankman/interviews/wong.html http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/vp_mallick/20071112.html
From her publisher: http://www.randomhouse.ca/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780385663595
She is the recipient of a (US) George Polk Award, the New England Women’s Press Association Newswoman of the Year Award, the (Canadian) National Newspaper Award and a Lowell Thomas Travel Journalism Silver Medal, among other honours for her reporting. Wong has also written for The New York Times, The Gazette in Montreal, The Boston Globe and The Wall Street Journal.
Jan Wong is not some gossip column bimbo and at least deserves a balanced entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.33.69.212 ( talk) 03:19, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
"However, in pushing the envelope on denunciation, Wong had earned a reputation for gratuitous and opportunistic nastiness in pursuit of copy.[7]" How does a single opinion piece constitute a reputation? Kinsella never says she has a reputation, he tries to give her one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.192.16.187 ( talk) 18:16, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
If it is appropriate to mention this, why not her husband and sons, if not necessarily by name and present circumstances? She does mention them in past columns, and collection of them, after all, so it hardly seems an intrusion. Masalai ( talk) 06:15, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
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