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- Hongsy ( talk) 16:08, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
There is a dispute with User:Kingoflettuce as to whether to allow reference to the fact that Jamus Lim's Harvard degree is from its Extension School. User:Kingoflettuce has been reverting edits by multiple Wikipedians that have attempted to make any reference to this.
Primary citation of the current information is from the Workers' Party website here, with all other sources parroting the same information from this website. As a partisan political party website, this source is considered WP:QUESTIONABLE. Workers' Party's presentation of this information is misleading and against Harvard's own resume guidelines, see here and here.
References to additional details of Jamus Lim's Harvard qualifications can be obtained from his LinkedIn and personal website, which are considered acceptable under WP:SOCIALMEDIA, where "Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves". Supporting information can also be found at The Online Citizen, but the editor in question considers TOC to be not an RS and has refused to acknowledge TOC has a source, despite the website being referenced in many Wikipedia articles such as Lucien Wong, Nicole Seah, Lam Pin Min, Charles Chong and many others.
I also note that the information that Jamus Lim's Harvard degree is from its Extension School does not conflict with the information provided in the primary source or the cited secondary sources. In the circumstances, reference to the fact that Jamus Lim's Harvard degree is from its Extension School should be allowed. - R4ge ( talk) 05:37, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Nothing hard and fast about it. It says to exercise caution when doing so, especially if said fact or "fact" is not mentioned in any third-party reliable sources Kingoflettuce ( talk) 07:28, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
@ Kingoflettuce: I would like to point out that I disagree with the full revert of the recent controversy over his remarks which Union leaders criticized him for. While Wikipedia is not a newspaper, his call for a minimum wage based on the ideal that "union leaders always relied on folksy wisdom and beliefs" is a noteworthy inclusion nonetheless, as the debate revolves around the progressive wage and minimum wage model, with him using the analogy of "positions to people in the 16th Century" to criticize the former model. As such, we should minimally be including the public reaction to his speech. Seloloving ( talk) 07:35, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
The following photographs of Jamus Lim have been added to Commons:
Kohlrabi Pickle ( talk) 02:33, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
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- Hongsy ( talk) 16:08, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
There is a dispute with User:Kingoflettuce as to whether to allow reference to the fact that Jamus Lim's Harvard degree is from its Extension School. User:Kingoflettuce has been reverting edits by multiple Wikipedians that have attempted to make any reference to this.
Primary citation of the current information is from the Workers' Party website here, with all other sources parroting the same information from this website. As a partisan political party website, this source is considered WP:QUESTIONABLE. Workers' Party's presentation of this information is misleading and against Harvard's own resume guidelines, see here and here.
References to additional details of Jamus Lim's Harvard qualifications can be obtained from his LinkedIn and personal website, which are considered acceptable under WP:SOCIALMEDIA, where "Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves". Supporting information can also be found at The Online Citizen, but the editor in question considers TOC to be not an RS and has refused to acknowledge TOC has a source, despite the website being referenced in many Wikipedia articles such as Lucien Wong, Nicole Seah, Lam Pin Min, Charles Chong and many others.
I also note that the information that Jamus Lim's Harvard degree is from its Extension School does not conflict with the information provided in the primary source or the cited secondary sources. In the circumstances, reference to the fact that Jamus Lim's Harvard degree is from its Extension School should be allowed. - R4ge ( talk) 05:37, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Nothing hard and fast about it. It says to exercise caution when doing so, especially if said fact or "fact" is not mentioned in any third-party reliable sources Kingoflettuce ( talk) 07:28, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
@ Kingoflettuce: I would like to point out that I disagree with the full revert of the recent controversy over his remarks which Union leaders criticized him for. While Wikipedia is not a newspaper, his call for a minimum wage based on the ideal that "union leaders always relied on folksy wisdom and beliefs" is a noteworthy inclusion nonetheless, as the debate revolves around the progressive wage and minimum wage model, with him using the analogy of "positions to people in the 16th Century" to criticize the former model. As such, we should minimally be including the public reaction to his speech. Seloloving ( talk) 07:35, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
The following photographs of Jamus Lim have been added to Commons:
Kohlrabi Pickle ( talk) 02:33, 17 March 2021 (UTC)