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The Page title lists James Clifton as the 29th earl but the article mentions him as the 30th. A peerage website supports the claim of him being the 30th earl and not the 29th. http://thepeerage.com/p2592.htm#i25912 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.252.20.65 ( talk) 14:23, 31 May 2009 (UTC) reply

frank easterbrook claims that the 30th earl of mar made a hobby out of kicking pigeons. CAN SOMEONE CONFIRM THIS?>? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.147.226.165 ( talk) 01:43, 28 March 2012 (UTC) reply

Was this the one who preferred to live away from the spotlight, and died tragically by falling from a window in Knightsbridge? Valetude ( talk) 00:07, 5 September 2015 (UTC) reply